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[QUOTE=TheMan;14992057][video=youtube_share;u9k7132Iyeo]https://youtu.be/u9k7132Iyeo?si=BnWcrB2EREYDd-Ci[/video]
Long but in depth video, I don't expect a dummy like you to understand it, much less have the attention span for it but anyone with any curiosity at all, give it a watch, it shows all the cards both countries have and it doesn't bode well for us...[/QUOTE]
[I]He's not flipping Michigan![/I]
[I]The race is really close [/I]
And I'm the dummy?? :roll:
[QUOTE=tpols;14992080]Its... not quite that serious. I'm a peaceful fella.[/QUOTE]
RRR3 warning others that you might track someone down... when he's the one spending days looking up 3ball's information and almost showed up at his front door cause he was so ruined by him.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14992091][I]He's not flipping Michigan![/I]
[I]The race is really close [/I]
And I'm the dummy?? :roll:[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14992091][I]He's not flipping Michigan![/I]
[I]The race is really close [/I]
And I'm the dummy?? :roll:[/QUOTE]
I ate crow on that one, I didn't run away but presidential predictions and being able to discern which country has the upper hand in an economic trade war with all the data out there are two very different things. China is not gonna fold and they already have a bigger share of manufacturing trade deals than the US with other countries.
China shows zero signs of backing down, Trump already backed down due to the bonds market. If China decides to go nuclear and sell all their US bonds, it's game over, do you dimwits understand that?
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992102]I ate crow on that one, I didn't run away but presidential predictions and being able to discern which country has the upper hand in an economic trade war with all the data out there are two very different things. China is not gonna fold and they already have a bigger share of manufacturing trade deals than the US with other countries.
China shows zero signs of backing down, Trump already backed down due to the bonds market. If China decides to go nuclear and sell all their US bonds, it's game over, do you dimwits understand that?[/QUOTE]
Stop being a mad little beaner and go outside and push around your elote cart. Jesus. :lol
op does not realize china owns USA
let op pay off loan than we can say you own usa... dumb fvck
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14992016]He didn't fold, it was Trump's plan all along.[/QUOTE]
Trumps plan was to turn the whole world against the U.S.?
[QUOTE=n00bie;14992118]Trumps plan was to turn the whole world against the U.S.?[/QUOTE]
Scary times.
[QUOTE=n00bie;14992118]Trumps plan was to turn the whole world against the U.S.?[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=n00bie;14992118]Trumps plan was to turn the whole world against the U.S.?[/QUOTE]
:lol
19-87 IQ not coming back until Fox News and Ben Shapiro give him the proper talking points.
[QUOTE=n00bie;14992118]Trumps plan was to turn the whole world against the U.S.?[/QUOTE]
Is that why countless countries are currently running to Trump for a deal?
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14992140]Is that why countless countries are currently running to Trump for a deal?[/QUOTE]
This idiot believes EVERYTHING Trump says :lol
Funny he hasn't specifically named any though, huh?
Meanwhile Trump is backing down, just hours ago making exemptions for more Chinese goods after declaring a couple of days ago there would be no exemptions, like 30% of all goods coming from China don't have that goofy 145% tariff while China hasn't made any exceptions and have stopped crucial rare earth minerals exports to the US :lol
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/04/12/trump-tariff-exemptions-smartphones-computers/[/url]
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992148]This idiot believes EVERYTHING Trump says :lol
Funny he hasn't specifically named any though, huh?
Meanwhile Trump is backing down, just hours ago making exemptions for more Chinese goods after declaring a couple of days ago there would be no exemptions, like 30% of all goods coming from China don't have that goofy 145% tariff while China hasn't made any exceptions and have stopped crucial rare earth minerals exports to the US :lol
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/04/12/trump-tariff-exemptions-smartphones-computers/[/url][/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE]Just had a very productive call with To Lam, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, who told me that Vietnam wants to cut their Tariffs down to ZERO if they are able to make an agreement with the U.S. I thanked him on behalf of our Country, and said I look forward to a meeting in the near future.[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114280292618523684"]https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114280292618523684[/URL]
[QUOTE]Their top TEAM is on a plane heading to the U.S., and things are looking good. We are likewise dealing with many other countries, all of whom want to make a deal with the United States. Like with South Korea, we are bringing up other subjects that are not covered by Trade and Tariffs, and getting them negotiated also.[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1909597349917184378"]https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1909597349917184378[/URL]
[QUOTE]Cambodia, Home to Many U.S. Shoe Makers, Pledges Tariff Cuts in Exchange for Talks[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tariffs-trade-war-markets-04-05-25/card/cambodia-home-to-many-u-s-shoe-makers-pledges-tariff-cuts-in-exchange-for-talks-mSftjdJeJmC1FdQ0hNRL"]https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tariffs-trade-war-markets-04-05-25/card/cambodia-home-to-many-u-s-shoe-makers-pledges-tariff-cuts-in-exchange-for-talks-mSftjdJeJmC1FdQ0hNRL[/URL]
[QUOTE]“As for when I will fly to the US for negotiations, it has to be as soon as possible. I confirm that the USTR has responded, but the date has not been set. I am ready to fly with the Commerce Minister because we are on the same team. Call me ‘Pichai’ so that both of us can turn to each other at the same time, and the private sector will join in for strength,” said Mr. Pichai.[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/04/12/pichai-holds-us-tariff-talks-with-business-however-thailand-is-unlikely-to-see-10-baseline-retained/"]https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/04/12/pichai-holds-us-tariff-talks-with-business-however-thailand-is-unlikely-to-see-10-baseline-retained/[/URL]
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14992161]lol
[URL="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114280292618523684"]https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114280292618523684[/URL]
[URL="https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1909597349917184378"]https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1909597349917184378[/URL]
[URL="https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tariffs-trade-war-markets-04-05-25/card/cambodia-home-to-many-u-s-shoe-makers-pledges-tariff-cuts-in-exchange-for-talks-mSftjdJeJmC1FdQ0hNRL"]https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tariffs-trade-war-markets-04-05-25/card/cambodia-home-to-many-u-s-shoe-makers-pledges-tariff-cuts-in-exchange-for-talks-mSftjdJeJmC1FdQ0hNRL[/URL]
[URL="https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/04/12/pichai-holds-us-tariff-talks-with-business-however-thailand-is-unlikely-to-see-10-baseline-retained/"]https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/04/12/pichai-holds-us-tariff-talks-with-business-however-thailand-is-unlikely-to-see-10-baseline-retained/[/URL][/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
Once again, NachoMan thinks he's hit the buzzer beater FTW.... only to see he didn't get it off in time FTL.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14992168]Once again, NachoMan thinks he's hit the buzzer beater FTW.... only to see he didn't get it off in time FTL.[/QUOTE]
Does it every single time, then you have RRR3 cheering him on thinking he is making a great points. Low IQ individuals.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14992094]RRR3 warning others that you might track someone down... when he's the one spending days looking up 3ball's information and almost showed up at his front door cause he was so ruined by him.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
Once people get to this level, you know they spend way too much time here and need a social life. They are too concerned with posters they have never even met. I've spent this last month going on dates/smashing a beautiful lady I just met and I'm going to LA in 10 days or so for a bachelor party.
:cheers:
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14992161]lol
[URL="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114280292618523684"]https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114280292618523684[/URL]
[URL="https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1909597349917184378"]https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1909597349917184378[/URL]
[URL="https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tariffs-trade-war-markets-04-05-25/card/cambodia-home-to-many-u-s-shoe-makers-pledges-tariff-cuts-in-exchange-for-talks-mSftjdJeJmC1FdQ0hNRL"]https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tariffs-trade-war-markets-04-05-25/card/cambodia-home-to-many-u-s-shoe-makers-pledges-tariff-cuts-in-exchange-for-talks-mSftjdJeJmC1FdQ0hNRL[/URL]
[URL="https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/04/12/pichai-holds-us-tariff-talks-with-business-however-thailand-is-unlikely-to-see-10-baseline-retained/"]https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/04/12/pichai-holds-us-tariff-talks-with-business-however-thailand-is-unlikely-to-see-10-baseline-retained/[/URL][/QUOTE]
:roll:
As I said, you believe EVERYTHING Trump says.
Trump has begun backing down, he exempted Chinese products last night after he said no more exemptions while China has stood firm. Funny you didn't address that lol
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14992171]:roll:
Once people get to this level, you know they spend way too much time here and need a social life. They are too concerned with posters they have never even met. I've spent this last month going on dates/smashing a beautiful lady I just met and I'm going to LA in 10 days or so for a bachelor party.
:cheers:[/QUOTE]
If this were true, you wouldn't even feel the need to mention this :lol
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992173]If this were true, you wouldn't even feel the need to mention this :lol[/QUOTE]
It is though, and it's something that normal people do in life. The fact that you believe it's some impossibility just shows you need to go out more. Well, on second thought, you don't really seem like a shut in, but there are a handful of posters here who need to go out more and not take this site so seriously.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14992183]It is though, and it's something that normal people do in life. The fact that you believe it's some impossibility just shows you need to go out more. Well, on second thought, you don't really seem like a shut in, but there are a handful of posters here who need to go out more and not take this site so seriously.[/QUOTE]
Well I guess everyone is different, I sometimes go days where I don't check in here and sometimes I post various times during the day. I'm in a different stage of my life, I'm married and have kids, I don't feel the need to let people here know what I do on my free time.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xz7BGAJYhg[/url]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-oOek2KA5U[/url]
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992172]:roll:
As I said, you believe EVERYTHING Trump says.
Trump has begun backing down, he exempted Chinese products last night after he said no more exemptions while China has stood firm. Funny you didn't address that lol[/QUOTE]
The products you say are exempt, like phones and TVs, are still getting the 20% tariff that was first put up, so not exempt.
China has publicly said that they won't go higher than 125%, because it doesn't matter if you go higher as products are already too costly at that rate.
I think we can all agree that great that 70 countries have already reached out expressing interest in making a new deal, it shows that there's room for improvement from the old ones.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14992140]Is that why countless countries are currently running to Trump for a deal?[/QUOTE]
I cant say for certain if thats true. What I DO know is that countries are running to eachother to make deals to bypass Trump. Nobody knows what Trump is thinking, so it's risky for any country to deal with just the U.S. at this point.
[video=youtube_share;R2-GsYRDNz0]https://youtu.be/R2-GsYRDNz0?si=apEGM3_qCVo9BnSL[/video]
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992448][video=youtube_share;R2-GsYRDNz0]https://youtu.be/R2-GsYRDNz0?si=apEGM3_qCVo9BnSL[/video][/QUOTE]
USA might invade Greenland tomorrow out of the corporate "necessity".
[video=youtube;EGDdpBGlmxQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGDdpBGlmxQ[/video]
[video=youtube_share;m1IMdY0r4xY]https://youtu.be/m1IMdY0r4xY?si=EyRCPamF1LHrS-wb[/video]
Informative video but to get the gist of this trade war, go to 12:20 mark, that's the unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize.
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992544][video=youtube_share;m1IMdY0r4xY]https://youtu.be/m1IMdY0r4xY?si=EyRCPamF1LHrS-wb[/video]
Informative video but to get the gist of this trade war, go to 12:20 mark, that's the unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize.[/QUOTE]
Damn. Those are hard truths Americans choose to keep a blind eye on.
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992544][video=youtube_share;m1IMdY0r4xY]https://youtu.be/m1IMdY0r4xY?si=EyRCPamF1LHrS-wb[/video]
Informative video but to get the gist of this trade war, go to 12:20 mark, that's the unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize.[/QUOTE]
This probably takes the cake as the weirdest statement you've ever made trying to get a "win" on MAGA, like what in the actual **** lol.
The fact that past politicians sold out America for the benefit of corporations and Trump pointing out this over and over and over again, is why he was elected President. And you come here presenting it as an "unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize" :oldlol:
Do you understand that tariffs are a fee for companies to pay on the initial value of their imported product and not a fee for the Chinese govt?
Example:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $150, make $100.
And in case your next trick is to say something like "oh but Trump doesn't highlight how it was our own politicians who helped create this mess and is instead just blaming China", let's have a look at a recent press release from the Trump Whitehouse:
[QUOTE]Last night, President Donald J. Trump made clear whose side he is on — everyday Americans, [B]not the globalist politicians who have spent decades selling out American workers to foreign countries.[/B]
[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/"]https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/[/URL]
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14992573]This probably takes the cake as the weirdest statement you've ever made trying to get a "win" on MAGA, like what in the actual **** lol.
The fact that past politicians sold out America for the benefit of corporations and Trump pointing out this over and over and over again, is why he was elected President. And you come here presenting it as an "unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize" :oldlol:
Do you understand that tariffs are a fee for companies to pay on the initial value of their imported product and not a fee for the Chinese govt?
Example:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $150, make $100.
And in case your next trick is to say something like "oh but Trump doesn't highlight how it was our own politicians who helped create this mess and is instead just blaming China", let's have a look at a recent press release from the Trump Whitehouse:
[URL="https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/"]https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Not to mention the vid TheMan posted at the 12:20 mark where he specifically highlighted, is a hired Chinese government operative who is trying to spread Chinese propaganda onto Americans. This was exposed in the vid I posted at the 8:17 mark. If he had the patience to watch my vid, he would have seen it. 5:15 mark in my vid is also eye opening.
Dude fell for Chinese propaganda. :lol
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14992573]Example:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $150, make $100.
[/QUOTE]
The reality:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $160, make $110.
[QUOTE=Overdrive;14992600]The reality:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $160, make $110.[/QUOTE]
Solution:
Because of social media, the company is quickly outed for not wanting to produce in the US and instead hiking their prices. People start boycotting the company + the natural lower number of sales on a more expensive product, causing a 10% drop in sales and less profit for the company than just paying the tariff.
I bet you'd argue for higher corporate taxes overall, but the exact same argument of reality being price hikes for the end buyer can be made going that route.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14992587]Not to mention the vid TheMan posted at the 12:20 mark where he specifically highlighted, is a hired Chinese government operative who is trying to spread Chinese propaganda onto Americans. This was exposed in the vid I posted at the 8:17 mark. If he had the patience to watch my vid, he would have seen it. 5:15 mark in my vid is also eye opening.
Dude fell for Chinese propaganda. :lol[/QUOTE]
I know it's Chinese propaganda but what part of what he said isn't true?
If an American paid propagandist told the Chinese people that their government is anti democratic, is that a lie or not? :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14992573]This probably takes the cake as the weirdest statement you've ever made trying to get a "win" on MAGA, like what in the actual **** lol.
The fact that past politicians sold out America for the benefit of corporations and Trump pointing out this over and over and over again, is why he was elected President. And you come here presenting it as an "unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize" :oldlol:
Do you understand that tariffs are a fee for companies to pay on the initial value of their imported product and not a fee for the Chinese govt?
Example:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $150, make $100.
And in case your next trick is to say something like "oh but Trump doesn't highlight how it was our own politicians who helped create this mess and is instead just blaming China", let's have a look at a recent press release from the Trump Whitehouse:
[URL="https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/"]https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Tariffs, the way Trump is implementing them, is not gonna bring back manufacturing jobs.
Looks like Trump is folding on his tariffs lol.
[video=youtube_share;5J3N60QXU6Q]https://youtu.be/5J3N60QXU6Q[/video]
We win again fam!
[QUOTE=TheMan;14992630]Tariffs, the way Trump is implementing them, is not gonna bring back manufacturing jobs.[/QUOTE]
Is that why you went full retard, took the #1 Trump talking point of the last 10 years and laid it out as an "unpleasant truth for MAGAs"?
I'm sure if a life long politician was in charge, he or she would've worked with all those economists who are on TV these days to get those darn tariffs just right and brough the manufacturing jobs back :oldlol