what grade do you give trump for his first hundred days and why?

[QUOTE=diamenz;15003063]either that or the files are already shredded, burned and gone forever.[/QUOTE]

Maybe, but if the evidence was all gone I don't think we would be seeing this dog and pony show. God knows what kind of back door deals were made or are still being made. Kash Patel said yesterday he believes Epstein hung himself. So that could mean one of the two things:

- He's been compromised or threatened

- He's in on the coverup, which means Trump is in on the coverup.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15003064]Wait, you have evidence that Trump was on the Epstein flights and visited the island numerous times? Are you telling me TheMan is aware of this but not Trump's most powerful enemies?

Can you provide us with this evidence? I would really like to see it.[/QUOTE]

TheMan is using obfuscation and he's muddied "the Epstein flights" into a talking point where it means anyone who ever flew on the plane, instead of how the story was originally about rich people who used the plane to go to Epstein's own island.

Media does the same, they'll say there were kids on the flights with Trump, neglecting to mention that they were his own kids nor that they flew from Florida to NY and not Epstein island.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15003068]

Media does the same, they'll say there were kids on the flights with Trump, neglecting to mention that they were his own kids nor that they flew from Florida to NY and not Epstein island.[/QUOTE]

talk about ulterior motives. the msm is a *ucking cancer man.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15003059]The only knock on his grade is the current uncertainty we're seeing in the markets. It's hard to fully gauge because we're in the eye of the storm. Could end up being a net positive. Things would really have to plunge beyond all comprehension before I give him a failing grade.

Plus, you can't not grade on a curve. Orange Face was up against the most stacked deck in history and came out on top. He's done so many positive things and really saved our country from the evil traitors. That's not to say I can't judge him fairly from here on out, but I'm willing to cut him more slack considering what we're up against.

I'll also say this, the Epstein thing was clearly bullshit. Trump ran on releasing that shit but we know it's never getting released. It's all a game. When you have blackmail material over the most powerful people in the world, you don't just let that shit go. Whoever has that info is holding onto it forever. So yea, Trump probably lied about that.[/QUOTE]

:oldlol:

LOL...why do people that don't know history always talk about history. Biden came into his presidency during a global pandemic, Obama came in under two wars and an economic crash, Clinton came in during race riots and a recession, Carter came in during a recession, LBJ had to replace an assassinated president after WWIII almost started.

Trump came in after messes he made

[QUOTE=John8204;15003140]:oldlol:

LOL...why do people that don't know history always talk about history. Biden came into his presidency during a global pandemic, Obama came in under two wars and an economic crash, Clinton came in during race riots and a recession, Carter came in during a recession, LBJ had to replace an assassinated president after WWIII almost started.

Trump came in after messes he made[/QUOTE]

Trump came in after messes HE made? Huh? What's that supposed to mean?

You need to be specific. Last time I checked when Trump took office the first time the country was booming until the virus of unknown origin started to spread. The virus that democrats said definitely was not made in a lab.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15003178]Trump came in after messes HE made? Huh? What's that supposed to mean?

You need to be specific. Last time I checked when Trump took office the first time the country was booming until the virus of unknown origin started to spread. The virus that democrats said definitely was not made in a lab.[/QUOTE]
Calm down Klansman Kevin, we know you're enraged that black people have rights these days but try to stop frothing at the mouth for five seconds

[QUOTE=Baller234;15003178]Trump came in after messes HE made? Huh? What's that supposed to mean?

You need to be specific. Last time I checked when Trump took office the first time the country was booming until the virus of unknown origin started to spread. The virus that democrats said definitely was not made in a lab.[/QUOTE]

It never ceases to amaze me the level of inherent dishonesty that comes from Trump supporters.

How many millions of dollars did Trump get from China? We could also discuss the violent insurrection. The government sponsored media pipeline between The White House and Fox that included a lie about the election. We could discuss the purge of conservatives that were not corrupt during this era. Maybe you would like to discuss Trump's criminal actions in both with the 38 sexual assault accusers or the real estate fraud.

[QUOTE=John8204;15003229]It never ceases to amaze me the level of inherent dishonesty that comes from Trump supporters.

How many millions of dollars did Trump get from China? We could also discuss the violent insurrection. The government sponsored media pipeline between The White House and Fox that included a lie about the election. We could discuss the purge of conservatives that were not corrupt during this era. Maybe you would like to discuss Trump's criminal actions in both with the 38 sexual assault accusers or the real estate fraud.[/QUOTE]

I would love to talk about all of them actually. China, Jan 6, the 2020 election... whatever you want.

Tell me which Trump "mess" you want to talk about first. Pick one. I would rather not go off on a thousand tangents.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15003245]I would love to talk about all of them actually. China, Jan 6, the 2020 election... whatever you want.

Tell me which Trump "mess" you want to talk about first. Pick one. I would rather not go off on a thousand tangents.[/QUOTE]

Let's talk about Russia and Trump sending Covid tests to Russia during the pandemic. Aiding Russia during the pandemic after extorting Ukraine for political information against Biden.

[QUOTE=John8204;15003351]Let's talk about Russia and Trump sending Covid tests to Russia during the pandemic. Aiding Russia during the pandemic after extorting Ukraine for political information against Biden.[/QUOTE]

So let me understand this.

Of all the things you take issue with when it comes to Orange Face, in your grand scheme to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's the worst president ever... THIS is what you want to talk about? That Trump may or may not have sent Covid tests to Russia? :oldlol:

There's not even any proof that this happened, but even if it did... that's worse than what the democrats did? Lying about the virus's origin? Colluding with big tech to silence people on social media? Deleting posts that claimed the virus came from a lab?

Or what about shutting down all the blue states for over a year? What about shutting down parks and arresting people for canoeing by themselves in the lake but allowing thousands of people to protest? What about lying about the efficacy of surgical masks? Or how they basically admitted they made up the whole "6 feet apart" rule and that it wasn't grounded in anything logical or scientific.

Don't get me started on the actual vaccine itself. What about the massive flip flop the dems did once Brandon became president? What about lying about it's efficacy? What about mandating the vaccine after they claimed they wouldn't? What about Fauci outright lying about his involvement in the gain of function research and the democrats covering for him? Or what about trying to disincentivize people from treating covid using Ivermectin by falsely labeling it as horse medicine?

You can call me whatever you want but you can't call me a liar because all of these things happened.

But sure, keep pretending like the democrats were the good guys throughout all this. Pretending is all you theater kids have left.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15003094]talk about ulterior motives. the msm is a *ucking cancer man.[/QUOTE]

True, but people like TheMan who play along with this while they know they're spreading lies aren't really any better. Not surprised that guy won't show himself in the thread again.

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15003678]True, but people like TheMan who play along with this while they know they're spreading lies aren't really any better. Not surprised that guy won't show himself in the thread again.[/QUOTE]

I'm here dog. I haven't seen anything worth replying to and I'm done with you Trump cultists, there's no point.

I'd give him an A on immigration policy and results thus far, as well as border security.

I'd give him a tentative C on the economy which could go up or down depending on the next 100 days. Broken down it's an A for the ambition and boldness to try and shake things up around the world that puts the ball back in USA's court on economic dominance. However, a D on the market instability it initially created and the ensuing tariff war which I don't think he saw coming. He's playing a chess match with the global economy and just like any chess player will tell you, you can't anticipate the opposition. I think he expected more compliance than what he got.

I'd give him an B on erasing woke social engineering rot that is pervasive in the government and social climate of the US. He's trying to make all the right moves but he's got opposition preventing him from getting an A and he isn't winning as many battles in this field as I'd hope he could but he's winning most so far anyways. Trying to course correct colleges is for example one of his biggest hurdles. As well as controlling states that still let men compete with women in sports. Insanity, yet there are insane politicians that seem ready to fight damn near to death on that ideology.

I'd give him a C+ or a B- at best on foreign diplomacy and relations. He ended the fighting with Israel and Hamas almost immediately and brought Russia and Ukraine to the table for discussion which on it's own looked super impressive at first, but of course it's been messy and controversial IMO how it's all unfolded after that. His head and heart are totally in the right place I think, but the results look jarring, awkward, or thus far ineffective depending on what facet of those two conflicts I'm looking at. He is bringing in some great trade deals with other countries however. He seems very persuasive with respect to his economic discussions with certain leaders that I've been happy to see. He also got compliance almost immediately on border and immigration issues with several countries that were trying to poison the well.

I'd give him a B+ on cleaning up the swamp / government shakedown / spending shakedowns. He rattled a ton of cages which is EXACTLY what this bloated US government needed. Crooked as hell, with barely six figure salaried congress people becoming multi millionaires and tens of millionaires within a few years which is absolutely corrupt as hell and god knows what else was and still is going on behind closed doors and I applaud his efforts to sink his teeth into basically an internal government audit. Not an A because he's inevitably going to cut off the heads of some good programs or personal in his heavy handed approach... but it's probably a necessary evil anyways so I'm good with it for now.

D on environmental policy, though it's linked at the hip tethered to an A on internal economic development... He wants to utilize protected lands, reduce restrictions and regulations designed to protect the air/land/resources etc. It's probably a necessary evil... though if you ever see a redwood forest or even just a hundreds year old forest in some New England states get cut down and understand it takes hundreds to 10's of thousands of years to make a forest like that you realize a lot of what is labeled renewable and up for grabs for the sake of progress was actually clearly not renewable. But... maybe it's what the country needs right now. We'll see.

Finally, A++++++++++++++++++++ on TRANSPARENCY.

I have NEVER SEEN any presidential tenure / cabinet / etc show full videos of meetings and give brief no nonsense explanations of every executive order being signed. Love the orders, like them, dislike them or hate them it doesn't matter - he's SHOWING THE PEOPLE exactly what he's doing and this was not the case from other presidency in history. It's honestly amazing to watch. If the left had been this transparent they'd actually get even less votes next time imo because they were pushing psycho woke crap behind closed doors for a reason. Note, everybody points out what a wack job they think Kennedy is for swimming in a stream with his grandkids meanwhile that freakshow trans health person from the last office wasn't ever discussed. I actually had no idea that person was even the one Kennedy replaced and I was dumfounded once I found out. That person was ok with gender affirming care to transition kids. Think about how evil and psychotic that is, meanwhile Kennedy gets flamed for merely questioning the efficacy or safety of certain drugs or vaccines the giant monster that big pharma has turned into. So yeah, I'll take this open book adminstration whether I agree with the results all day long over another secretive one, especially if they're pushing wackjob ideas and ideologies behind closed doors.

Overall I'm rooting for him to succeed and hope some of these areas turn around for the better so that it's awfully hard for even people that were on team left to walk away and say life wasn't better due to things his administration did. There's a bunch of backwards hedonistic weirdos everywhere in the US nowadays that seem to think socialism is a good idea. **** all of them. Family nucleus, small government that stays out of the way and protects liberty, etc. This government has a better handle on things than any I've seen in recent years. The controversy is there only because there are so many backwards weirdos in the US now a days.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15003708]I'm here dog. I haven't seen anything worth replying to and I'm done with you Trump cultists, there's no point.[/QUOTE]

You're being outed here for straight up lying, glad to see you're not even trying to argue against it with more nonsense.