Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006631]I'm not justifying or defending anything. I'm simply explaining to you the reality of the situation. War is hell. If you think Netanyahu is evil that is your right, but I'm simply telling you that war and murder are not the same.

You can try and conflate the two all you want, but I refuse to submit to your illogical framework. It doesn't change the fact that Luigi is a murderer (an actual murderer) and that you and Bill Burr simp for him.[/QUOTE]

I see where you stand and I respect it but you're talking about a specific situation of legality vs not. Yes, during wartime killing people is legal and not called murder. What if the intentions of those pulling the strings during wartime are not pure? Still okay because its war?

Not that I'm going to bat for Luigi because I don't think anyone deserves to take a life, aggressive rape or familial murder victims perhaps aside. But even then..eh.

But I do see the other side. Brian Thompson was not a good man and put his own personal wealth over the lives of the folks his business was supposed to take care of. I can see why someone would be really upset by it.

Also Netanyahu already admitted that he's not stopping till Hamas is defeated even if the hostages are released, so you can stop with the hostages excuse.

[url]https://apnews.com/article/netanyahu-israel-hamas-gaza-ceasefire-hostages-0b8632e1a01070a7f013c0f9ce0f64b4[/url]

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006649]Is this a serious question? Yes if the leader of France kidnapped my family, I am perfectly fine starving the entire population if it increased my chances of getting them back. At that point the onus isn't on me it's on the leader of France to give them back.

War is hell.[/QUOTE]
Ok so you're just a psychopath who thinks only stuff that personally affects you matters.. Good to know. That explains quite a lot.

[QUOTE=RRR3;15006647]Deflection. Stay on topic if you want to have a debate, this is essentially trolling and you know damn well it's disingenuous.[/QUOTE]

How? You said that because more people agree with you, you must be right.

Okay well most people think it's a really bad idea to castrate children, put them on puberty blockers and put them on experimental hormone therapy. I guess that makes you an extreme fringe lunatic.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006653]How? You said that because more people agree with you, you must be right.

Okay well most people think it's a really bad idea to castrate children, put them on puberty blockers and put them on experimental hormone therapy. I guess that makes you an extreme fringe lunatic.[/QUOTE]
Deflection, stay on topic please.

[QUOTE=RRR3;15006652]Ok so you're just a psychopath who thinks only stuff that personally affects you matters.. Good to know. That explains quite a lot.[/QUOTE]

So if someone kidnapped your family and held them hostage and was doing God knows what to them, and you couldn't find that person, and you had no way of knowing whether or not your family would ever be released... what would you do?

Tell us your completely rational and humane method you would take to get your family back safe.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15006650]I see where you stand and I respect it but you're talking about a specific situation of legality vs not. Yes, during wartime killing people is legal and not called murder. What if the intentions of those pulling the strings during wartime are not pure? Still okay because its war?

Not that I'm going to bat for Luigi because I don't think anyone deserves to take a life, aggressive rape or familial murder victims perhaps aside. But even then..eh.

But I do see the other side. Brian Thompson was not a good man and put his own personal wealth over the lives of the folks his business was supposed to take care of. I can see why someone would be really upset by it.[/QUOTE]
I think there's also a pretty big difference between members of Hamas' military being killed and children being intentionally starved to death.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15006650]I see where you stand and I respect it but you're talking about a specific situation of legality vs not. Yes, during wartime killing people is legal and not called murder. What if the intentions of those pulling the strings during wartime are not pure? Still okay because its war?

Not that I'm going to bat for Luigi because I don't think anyone deserves to take a life, aggressive rape or familial murder victims perhaps aside. But even then..eh.

But I do see the other side. Brian Thompson was not a good man and put his own personal wealth over the lives of the folks his business was supposed to take care of. I can see why someone would be really upset by it.[/QUOTE]

"But I do see the other side..."

"Brian Thompson was not a good man..."


Oh so it's okay to murder someone so long as ShawkFactory thinks they're a bad person? That's very interesting.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006655]So if someone kidnapped your family and held them hostage and was doing God knows what to them, and you couldn't find that person, and you had no way of knowing whether or not your family would ever be released... what would you do?

Tell us your completely rational and humane method you would take to get your family back safe.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't kill innocent people to get my family back, and they wouldn't do it to get me back either. I know this is a foreign concept to you, but killing innocent people is never justifiable.

Also this analogy only works if you include the part where you stole someone's house and killed their family and friends for 70 years before they kidnapped your family :lol Not including that part is incredibly dishonest.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006658]"But I do see the other side..."

"Brian Thompson was not a good man..."


Oh so it's okay to murder someone so long as ShawkFactory thinks they're a bad person? That's very interesting.[/QUOTE]
You've literally been saying it's ok to starve children as long as they live under a bad government

but you've nevah beeeeeeeen!

[QUOTE=RRR3;15006659]I wouldn't kill innocent people to get my family back, and they wouldn't do it to get me back either. I know this is a foreign concept to you, but killing innocent people is never justifiable.

Also this analogy only works if you include the part where you stole someone's house and killed their family and friends for 70 years before they kidnapped your family :lol Not including that part is incredibly dishonest.[/QUOTE]

Ah so it's all clear now. Hamas is justified in taking innocent hostages because Israel bad.

I thought you said you valued human life?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006658]"But I do see the other side..."

"Brian Thompson was not a good man..."


[B]Oh so it's okay to murder someone[/B] so long as ShawkFactory thinks they're a bad person? That's very interesting.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say that at all. In fact I literally just said the opposite.

The voices in your head are speaking again.

[B]3tard:[/B]

"Killing innocent people is never justifiable..."

[B]Also 3tard:[/B]

"Killing, raping and taking innocent hostages is justifiable if they're from Israel..."

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15006663]I didn't say that at all. In fact I literally just said the opposite.

The voices in your head are speaking again.[/QUOTE]

You said "I see where the other side is coming from..."

Did you not?

That's funny, I don't see where the other side is coming from. I don't think a greedy or corrupt businessman deserves execution on the street. There's zero justification for that and I would never say "Hey I see where the other side is coming from..."

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006662]Ah so it's all clear now. Hamas is justified in taking innocent hostages because Israel bad.

I thought you said you valued human life?[/QUOTE]
That's not what I said. It just makes zero sense for you to claim it's justifiable to do acts of great evil if someone else does something evil first, and then defend Israel over Hamas. Israel started this shit that isn't up for debate. If you think October 7 is when this stuff started you know absolutely nothing about history. So either evil acts are always bad (my position) or Hamas is justified because Israel has been stealing Palestinian land and killing Palestinians for 70 years (your position if you were consistent).

Keep in mind I disagree with people who have this position about Hamas being justified (they are out there), but you're the one who has been saying anything is ok if someone else did something evil first. So a little consistency would be nice, or even better maybe admit that Israel is an apartheid state.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006664][B]3tard:[/B]

"Killing innocent people is never justifiable..."

[B]Also 3tard:[/B]

"Killing, raping and taking innocent hostages is justifiable if they're from Israel..."[/QUOTE]
This is YOUR logic, not mine :hammerhead: I never have subscribed to an eye for an eye bullshit.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006665]You said "I see where the other side is coming from..."

Did you not?

That's funny, I don't see where the other side is coming from. I don't think a greedy or corrupt businessman deserves execution on the street. There's zero justification for that and I would never say "Hey I see where the other side is coming from..."[/QUOTE]

By being upset, yes. Not murdering.

Keep up dude. You're so goddamn emotional I feel like I'm talking to a woke leftist.

[QUOTE=RRR3;15006666]That's not what I said. It just makes zero sense for you to claim it's justifiable to do acts of great evil if someone else does something evil first, and then defend Israel over Hamas. Israel started this shit that isn't up for debate. If you think October 7 is when this stuff started you know absolutely nothing about history. So either evil acts are always bad (my position) or Hamas is justified because Israel has been stealing Palestinian land and killing Palestinians for 70 years (your position if you were consistent).

Keep in mind I disagree with people who have this position about Hamas being justified (they are out there), but you're the one who has been saying anything is ok if someone else did something evil first. So a little consistency would be nice, or even better maybe admit that Israel is an apartheid state.[/QUOTE]

Lol don't give me that bullshit, that's exactly what you said.

Your exact words: [B]"Also this analogy only works if you include the part where you stole someone's house and killed their family and friends for 70 years before they kidnapped your family...'[/B]

You keep going on these long diatribes but you're doing exactly as I said you would. You're perfectly wiling to condone whatever evil acts are committed upon innocent Israelis because in your opinion Israel started the war.

So you're no different. Congrats.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006671]Lol don't give me that bullshit, that's exactly what you said.

Your exact words: [B]"Also this analogy only works if you include the part where you stole someone's house and killed their family and friends for 70 years before they kidnapped your family...'[/B]

You keep going on these long diatribes but you're doing exactly as I said you would. You're perfectly wiling to condone whatever evil acts are committed upon innocent Israelis because in your opinion Israel started the war.

So you're no different. Congrats.[/QUOTE]
When did I condone anything? You'd get laughed at it in a court of law if you tried to argue like this. Your entire debating tactic is to just lie about what your opponent says, that's not how you win an argument. Respond to what I actually say without lying.

[QUOTE=RRR3;15006672]When did I condone anything? You'd get laughed at it in a court of law if you tried to argue like this. Your entire debating tactic is to just lie about what your opponent says, that's not how you win an argument. Respond to what I actually say without lying.[/QUOTE]

Okay so I am going to entertain your own analogy then:

Assume someone has brutally murdered your father and have kidnapped the rest your family. You don't know where they are being held and you have no way of finding the person responsible. You learn that it's payback for what your country did 70 years ago. Nothing personal against you, but they really despise your country so they are going to keep your family as hostages and do God knows what to them.

Tell us your wonderful plan to try and get them back.

Don't tell us what you wouldn't do, tell us what you WOULD do.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006673]Okay so I am going to entertain your own analogy then:

Assume someone has brutally murdered your father and have kidnapped the rest your family. You don't know where they are being held and you have no way of finding the person responsible. You learn that it's payback for what your country did 70 years ago. Nothing personal against you, but they really despise your country so they are going to keep your family as hostages and do God knows what to them.

Tell us your wonderful plan to try and get them back.

Don't tell us what you wouldn't do, tell us what you WOULD do.[/QUOTE]
Still an incorrect analogy because you are now pretending Israel hasn't been continuously doing heinous stuff to Palestine. It didn't stop after the Nakba. Do your research. Again, two wrongs don't make a right, but you keep framing Palestine as the aggressor, which is disingenuous. Not to mention ignoring that Netanyahu funded Hamas because he knows they're psychos who will do stuff like this and give him an excuse for his evil deeds, while at the same time preventing left-wing Palestinian groups from gaining power.

As for your ridiculous analogy, unlike you I don't think I'm in an action movie, so I would try to get help but I certainly wouldn't be murdering people not involved. I'm not saying people who are families of the kidnapped don't have justifiable anger towards Hamas, I'm saying Hamas didn't start it and YOU keep claiming starting something gives someone the right to be evil. You said it, not me.

[QUOTE=RRR3;15006675]Still an incorrect analogy because you are now pretending Israel hasn't been continuously doing heinous stuff to Palestine. It didn't stop after the Nakba. Do your research. Again, two wrongs don't make a right, but you keep framing Palestine as the aggressor, which is disingenuous. Not to mention ignoring that Netanyahu funded Hamas because he knows they're psychos who will do stuff like this and give him an excuse for his evil deeds, while at the same time preventing left-wing Palestinian groups from gaining power.

As for your ridiculous analogy, unlike you I don't think I'm in an action movie, so I would try to get help but I certainly wouldn't be murdering people not involved. I'm not saying people who are families of the kidnapped don't have justifiable anger towards Hamas, I'm saying Hamas didn't start it and YOU keep claiming starting something gives someone the right to be evil. You said it, not me.[/QUOTE]

If two wrongs don't make a right that means both parties are to blame and you should be condemning both sides equally, but that's not the case. You're only interested in condemning Israel. When Israel does something wrong, it's Israel's fault. But when the other side does something wrong, it's still Israel's fault because they started it or they funded it. In other words Israel is always wrong no matter what and anything done in response is morally justified because Israel started it.

But why does it matter if "Israel started it" if two wrongs don't make a right? How is that relevant? Most of the power players involved are totally removed from the events that took place 70 years ago. And regardless, whatever happened... that doesn't justify the horrific acts on Oct 7th and it doesn't justify taking innocent hostages.

50 cent says in the song Heat:

[B]"If you were smart you'd be shook of me,
Cause I'll get tired of lookin for you
Spray your momma crib and let your ass look for me..."[/B]

In other words if you and me are at war, or you have my family hostage, and there's no one to help, best believe I'm gonna do whatever I can to smoke you out. I wouldn't kill your family right away but I'm definitely sending you that message. I'm saying "Hey 3tard I know you have my family if you don't give them up I'm going to hurt yours." At that point the ball is in your court. That is the price of war.

War is a very horrible, complex thing that takes new shape the longer it goes on. No one is ever truly innocent. All the world leaders have blood on their hands to some degree. Netanyahu is not special in that regard.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006678]If two wrongs don't make a right that means both parties are to blame and you should be condemning both sides equally, but that's not the case. You're only interested in condemning Israel. When Israel does something wrong, it's Israel's fault. But when the other side does something wrong, it's still Israel's fault because they started it or they funded it. In other words Israel is always wrong no matter what and anything done in response is morally justified because Israel started it.

But why does it matter if "Israel started it" if two wrongs don't make a right? How is that relevant? Most of the power players involved are totally removed from the events that took place 70 years ago. And regardless, whatever happened... that doesn't justify the horrific acts on Oct 7th and it doesn't justify taking innocent hostages.

50 cent says in the song Heat:

[B]"If you were smart you'd be shook of me,
Cause I'll get tired of lookin for you
Spray your momma crib and let your ass look for me..."[/B]

In other words if you and me are at war, or you have my family hostage, and there's no one to help, best believe I'm gonna do whatever I can to smoke you out. I wouldn't kill your family right away but I'm definitely sending you that message. I'm saying "Hey 3tard I know you have my family if you don't give them up I'm going to hurt yours." At that point the ball is in your court. That is the price of war.

War is a very horrible, complex thing that takes new shape the longer it goes on. No one is ever truly innocent. All the world leaders have blood on their hands to some degree. Netanyahu is not special in that regard.[/QUOTE]

How many other world leaders are committing or have committed genocide? Serious question. Netanyahu is a special kind of evil. You really are waaaay out there if you can't acknowledge that.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15006812]How many other world leaders are committing or have committed genocide? Serious question. Netanyahu is a special kind of evil. You really are waaaay out there if you can't acknowledge that.[/QUOTE]

You wokesters don't have any solid ground to stand on so you just desparately shout "genocide" in the hopes of manipulating people's emotions. That's not what happening at all. But hey if you really want to play that game, you're standing up for the same people who chant "from the river to the sea.." So it's safe to say those people want Israel wiped off the map as well and doesn't think Israel has the right to exist. Is that not asking for genocide?

And if Netanyahu is a special kind of evil, what does that make Joe Biden and Kamala Harris? Their administration only further enabled him and did nothing while he committed "genocide". So why did you vote for a genocide enabler?

What does that make you?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006831]You wokesters don't have any solid ground to stand on so you just desparately shout "genocide" in the hopes of manipulating people's emotions. That's not what happening at all. But hey if you really want to play that game, you're standing up for the same people who chant "from the river to the sea.." So it's safe to say those people want Israel wiped off the map as well and doesn't think Israel has the right to exist. Is that not asking for genocide?

And if Netanyahu is a special kind of evil, what does that make Joe Biden and Kamala Harris? Their administration only further enabled him and did nothing while he committed "genocide". So why did you vote for a genocide enabler?

What does that make you?[/QUOTE]

"from the river to the sea" in reference to what the libtards are screaming on the streets of america or in regard to the zionist version arguing for the same thing albeit in the other direction, that are actually applying and carrying it all out as we speak?

of which btw that phrase, from what i understand, originated from the talmud itself?

so let's not act like either side doesn't want the other wiped off the map.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15006840]"from the river to the sea" in reference to what the libtards are screaming on the streets of america or in regard to the zionist version arguing for the same thing albeit in the other direction, that are actually applying and carrying it all out as we speak?

of which btw that phrase, from what i understand, originated from the talmud itself?

so let's not act like either side doesn't want the other wiped off the map.[/QUOTE]

what WE should be concerned as, as americans, is what interest this serves for us? the answer is nothing. that's why israel needs to take care of their god damn selves.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15006840]"from the river to the sea" in reference to what the libtards are screaming on the streets of america or in regard to the zionist version arguing for the same thing albeit in the other direction, that are actually applying and carrying it all out as we speak?

of which btw that phrase, from what i understand, originated from the talmud itself?

so let's not act like either side doesn't want the other wiped off the map.[/QUOTE]

Okay so if they want to see Israel wiped off the map, why is all the criticism being hurled at Israel? Because they're winning? If the countries that surrounded Israel had the power and resources to remove them from the region, wouldn't they?

Regardless, it's fukking retarded to compare what goes on in war to actual murder. It's not an apples to apples comparison. You don't just get to simp for Luigi and then deflect from that by saying... "But Israel!"

There's no moral ambiguity when it comes to Luigi. Either he was hired to murder that man or did so of his own accord. He executed another human in the street. Not in the name of conflict or war. So there's really no excuse for anyone that defends him or tries to prop him up as some misunderstood hero.

Which is why Bill Burr is a scumbag loser.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006831]You wokesters don't have any solid ground to stand on so you just desparately shout "genocide" in the hopes of manipulating people's emotions. That's not what happening at all. But hey if you really want to play that game, you're standing up for the same people who chant "from the river to the sea.." So it's safe to say those people want Israel wiped off the map as well and doesn't think Israel has the right to exist. Is that not asking for genocide?

And if Netanyahu is a special kind of evil, what does that make Joe Biden and Kamala Harris? Their administration only further enabled him and did nothing while he committed "genocide". So why did you vote for a genocide enabler?

What does that make you?[/QUOTE]

This is why i refuse to comment on this situation any further on this board. They do throw the word "genocide" out there in an attempt to shut you up.

You're literally arguing with neo-Nazis who hate Jews. It's not worth it.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006869]Okay so if they want to see Israel wiped off the map, why is all the criticism being hurled at Israel? Because they're winning? If the countries that surrounded Israel had the power and resources to remove them from the region, wouldn't they?

Regardless, it's fukking retarded to compare what goes on in war to actual murder. It's not an apples to apples comparison. You don't just get to simp for Luigi and then deflect from that by saying... "But Israel!"

There's no moral ambiguity when it comes to Luigi. Either he was hired to murder that man or did so of his own accord. He executed another human in the street. Not in the name of conflict or war. So there's really no excuse for anyone that defends him or tries to prop him up as some misunderstood hero.

Which is why Bill Burr is a scumbag loser.[/QUOTE]

but you understand the difference in the power dynamic that i'm pointing out here, right?

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15006871]This is why i refuse to comment on this situation any further on this board. They do throw the word "genocide" out there in an attempt to shut you up.

You're literally arguing with neo-Nazis who hate Jews. It's not worth it.[/QUOTE]

both sides can be accused to doing the same shit. pro-palestinians say the other side blames everything on hamas. pro-israel says the other side spouts "genocide". it works both ways. a lot of people just don't see it because you're too stuck in your bubbles and corners yelling without listening and unable to see things clearly. in order to see things clearly you need to be able to remove yourself from your bias and take an actual genuine intellectual interest in the subject. something most of us as humans are incapable of doing unfortunately. but credit to those that try.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15006903]but you understand the difference in the power dynamic that i'm pointing out here, right?[/QUOTE]

Who cares about power dynamics? War is war.

If two sides are at war then one side isn't automatically in the wrong just because they're more powerful and have more resources. They don't have an obligation to play nice and let the other side win.

Yes bawler Biden and Harris are also guilty of genocide. I didn’t vote for those idiots either so…

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006906][B]Who cares about power dynamics? War is war. [/B]

If two sides are at war then one side isn't automatically in the wrong just because they're more powerful and have more resources. They don't have an obligation to play nice and let the other side win.[/QUOTE]

you don't then.

alright. just forget about it.

[QUOTE=RRR3;15006908]Yes bawler Biden and Harris are also guilty of genocide. I didn’t vote for those idiots either so…[/QUOTE]

Are you kidding? Had The Cackler won the election, you would have been cheesing like a motherfukker.

You hate Orange Face with fury and passion. You were 100% cheering for The Cackler to win and there's zero doubt in my mind you went into a cold state of depression the night she lost.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006920]Are you kidding? Had The Cackler won the election, you would have been cheesing like a motherfukker.

You hate Orange Face with fury and passion. You were 100% cheering for The Cackler to win and there's zero doubt in my mind you went into a cold state of depression the night she lost.[/QUOTE]
Are you seriously dumb enough to think everyone who doesn’t like Trump votes Democrat? I can prove how I voted anyways, good luck explaining this thread:

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?519271-Just-voted[/url]

I’ll take that apology now bawler.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15006841]what WE should be concerned as, as americans, is what interest this serves for us? the answer is nothing. that's why israel needs to take care of their god damn selves.[/QUOTE]

#Baller234

i assume that you agree with me here, at least.

[QUOTE=RRR3;15006923]I’ll take that apology now bawler.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely not. I don't care if you didn't vote for The Cackler, you were clearly pulling for her to win and you were emotionally invested in her victory.

I remember how you acted when Trump got that first mugshot taken. You were the happiest you'd ever been. I refuse to believe you were totally indifferent to the election results.

Election night 2024 was a VERY bad night for you, no doubt.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15006928]Absolutely not. I don't care if you didn't vote for The Cackler, you were clearly pulling for her to win and you were emotionally invested in her victory.

I remember how you acted when Trump got that first mugshot taken. You were the happiest you'd ever been. I refuse to believe you were totally indifferent to the election results.

Election night 2024 was a VERY bad night for you, no doubt.[/QUOTE]
Election night is bad regardless of who wins, that's what you don't get. Both corporate parties are the enemy of everyday folks. Dems are controlled opposition, them winning means at best the Republicans just win in 2028 instead. And hey I bet the Dems will win in 2028 or 2032, and people will think stuff will change. It's a big club and you ain't in it-George Carlin. But you're too dumb to get it and still think one party is on your side. Neither are.

God it infuriates you that I didn't vote for Harris. You were so ready to pounce on that :roll: "but but but you trolled me about Trump's mugshot" :cry: Maybe stop worshipping the guy and you get trolled less?