Trouble in paradise? Musk slams Trump's "big beautiful bill"

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-scott-bessent-physical-confrontation-2079285[/url]

Steve Bannon claims that he got into a physical confrontation with Musk, and is responsible for Musk's black eye.


[QUOTE]According to Bannon, Bessent confronted Musk over his sweeping but unfulfilled promises to deliver $1 trillion in budget cuts. "Scott Bessent called him out and said, 'You promised us a trillion dollars in cuts, and now you're at like $100 billion. Nobody can find any savings. What are you doing?'" Bannon recounted.

"And that's when Elon got physical. It's a sore subject with him," Bannon said.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15011884]Musk's complaint is that it adds to the money supply in circulation (inflation) and creates a larger debt for the future generations to inherit[/QUOTE]

And who is the independent here on ISH that issued that same complaint towards Trump?

Me.


Elon is correct.




If you want to give praise to a Democrat... give praise to Bill Clinton that understood the importance of responsible spending.

[url]https://clintonwhitehouse5.archives.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-03.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15011891]The problem is doing the exact thing you called out Biden for. You don't remember all the inflated prices with a Biden "I did that" sticker next to it? How do you think Biden "did that"?

I mean, why do you think Musk has a probelm with it?

I'm starting to realize you don't actually have the slightest clue WTF is going on :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Lol nice try buddy.

It's not the same thing Biden was called out for. The stickers weren't in response to the rescue plan. You think the average mf'er knows what was in the damn rescue plan? :oldlol:

The "I did that" stickers started in response to rising gas prices. They started at gas pumps. It wasn't in defiance of a single piece of legislation.

As for why Musk is against it, who knows, I don't really care because he's not the president. For all I know he might have his own agenda to look out for. I'm seeing some prominent right wing twitter accounts also echoing his sentiments and criticizing the bill, but these are people who make their bread and butter from twitter. I didn't see any of them making a fuss about it until Elon did. Now all of a sudden they're on the front lines. Very suspicious to me.

I am choosing Trump in this fight. I don't think he has any plan to spike inflation.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15011900]Lol nice try buddy.

It's not the same thing Biden was called out for. The stickers weren't in response to the rescue plan. You think the average mf'er knows what was in the damn rescue plan? :oldlol:

The "I did that" stickers started in response to rising gas prices. They started at gas pumps. [B]It wasn't in defiance of a single piece of legislation. [/B]

As for why Musk is against it, who knows, I don't really care because he's not the president. For all I know he might have his own agenda to look out for. I'm seeing some prominent right wing twitter accounts also echoing his sentiments and criticizing the bill, but these are people who make their bread and butter from twitter. I didn't see any of them making a fuss about it until Elon did. Now all of a sudden they're on the front lines. Very suspicious to me.

I am choosing Trump in this fight. I don't think he has any plan to spike inflation.[/QUOTE]

So you're saying people are stupid and don't understand correlations between policy and outcomes?

It is probably true that most of MAGA blamed Biden for inflation without actually putting any thought into how Biden did it. :oldlol:

In this particular situation though, Musk sees the covid US inflationary woes as the product of US Gov spending, and he is correct of course. And he wants the Gov to stop massive spending like this as he views it as inflationary and a hole we are digging ourselves into. But I do think he is uneducated on the National Debt, he is just more educated than the average MAGA.

Taco and Elon pissing on each other is like middle school BFF's breaking up.

Where are all the lunatics that said the presidency had been bought by Musk and that he was the new president? You mf's all need to calm down and take a breath and understand the world isn't ending tomorrow and stop overreacting to every single thing you see on your phone or TV. I know that the true problem is you don't have enough real problems in your lives so you invent them but please, slow down.

Well, with Russia's actions & Ukraine's actions it might actually but other than that, the world is just fine lol.

[QUOTE=Wardell Curry;15011924]Where are all the lunatics that said the presidency had been bought by Musk and that he was the new president? You mf's all need to calm down and take a breath and understand the world isn't ending tomorrow and stop overreacting to every single thing you see on your phone or TV. I know that the true problem is you don't have enough real problems in your lives so you invent them but please, slow down.

Well, with Russia's actions & Ukraine's actions it might actually but other than that, the world is just fine lol.[/QUOTE]

I hear now liberals will be vandalizing and destroying your car if [I]don't[/I] drive a Tesla.

[QUOTE=Wardell Curry;15011924]Where are all the lunatics that said the presidency had been bought by Musk and that he was the new president? [/QUOTE]

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[url]https://www.tmz.com/2025/06/05/elon-musk-donald-trump-lost-election-without-him/[/url]



Musk himself says this

I agree that the population likes to overreact though.

Musk himself is guilty of constant overreaction, everything is the "doom of civilization" to him.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15011930]I hear now liberals will be vandalizing and destroying your car if [I]don't[/I] drive a Tesla.[/QUOTE]

This is what Musk wants, but it is going to result in both sides hating Musk and Tesla sinking even further into a hole.

Musk has managed to make the whole country hate him.

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Damn

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15011936][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gss-2YGaIAEg53-.png[/IMG]

Damn[/QUOTE]

Jeez :lol

Sounds like a little more than trouble in paradise. Fully melting down right now :lol

All because Trump is canceling the EV mandate

Wow, he is posting every minute on Trump and Epstein. He can't stop

This is VERY entertaining :oldlol:

This makes Musk look fking horrible though.

So he knew all this time that Trump was a pedophile, and he was willing to work with him, UNTIL he cut off his Gov funding?

This implosion is magical, but both of these two are disgusting humans and the US would be much better off if these two fck wads died and went away forever.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15011934]
Musk himself says this[/QUOTE]

No I'm talking about the sense that "Musk is in control of the presidency" and that he "bought it" from Trump.

This is the same stupidity that we heard about how Vladimir Putin is the real president of the United States.

We heard both of these lines parroted time and again. People in 2025 just need to calm down. Like I said, they don't have enough actual problems in their lives so they invent them.

Lol, I was just about to respond to this thread this morning before work and write just wait for the divorce, these two bout to start slinging mud. I never anticipated it would be THIS quick :roll:

I'm rooting for The Don to bury that grifter :applause:

[QUOTE=Wardell Curry;15011952]People in 2025 just need to calm down. Like I said, they don't have enough actual problems in their lives so they invent them.[/QUOTE]

passing on more debt to my kids and grandkids is something i [I]invented[/I]? *uck that. this entire bill is politicized to the point that no one's talking at all about what it does. rightwingers are dismissing it like nothing because they're hypocritical puss1es. it in all likelihood, when said and done, will add [B][U]five[/U][/B] trillion to the debt - a debt that costed one trillion alone last year alone to service, all now on behalf of transferring more amounts of wealth to the top and cutting the heart of ssnet programs (that's right, they're not just going after fraud. people that [B]genuinely[/B] need these programs will lose their coverage). you cut people off from what people depend on to survive so republican donors can get their pay. give me a reason why the tax cuts shouldn't be focused [U]first[/U] on the middle class after all wealth that got transfered during covid. it's money that will go [I]instantly[/I] back into the economy.

pu$$ies. you're nothing but blinded sheep in a herd. you're locked in a partisan bubble and it makes you look like a damn fool. keep coming with the excuses though.

[video=youtube_share;WNvheI9ejU0]https://youtu.be/WNvheI9ejU0?si=ygATpmge2Ocw0rUR[/video]

Top comment, time for the Trumpsters to pretend they never liked Elon :roll:

Baller234 talked shit about Kulinski, meanwhile he was predicting Trump and Musk would eventually rip each other apart when they were BFF, dude is Nostradamus lol.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15011639]no of course they wouldn't. quite the contrary - dems are known to spend, spend, spend. republicans on the other hand are supposed to be principally fiscally conservative. you can't see this for what it is and call it out accordingly?[/QUOTE]
diamenz, stop disappointing me bro...

Go back and see which administrations add to the deficit :facepalm

Every GOP administration since Reagan has massively added to the debt, without fail, more than the Democrats. How could you not know this? :facepalm

[QUOTE=Baller234;15011563][B][SIZE=5]Whose to say it's a breakup? Why can't they just have a disagreement?[/SIZE] [/B]

They should hold hands in tandem on every single thing?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Baller234;15011570]No, I'm saying it's perfectly possible to have a disagreement over one thing while still having a working relationship.

[B][SIZE=5]I don't think this will be the thing that fuels an all out war between the two.[/SIZE][/B] I doubt Trump will be giving Elon a mean nickname any time soon.

If anything this should dispel the whole oligarchy myth or that Trump is beholden to Elon.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gss-2YGaIAEg53-.png[/IMG]


:roll::roll::roll:

:roll:


It's just a friendly little spat, they'll be fine

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15011968]:roll:


It's just a friendly little spat, they'll be fine[/QUOTE]

its just jokes between 2 friends :roll:

Trumptards avoiding this thread.. haha

So they hate Musk now and he was never really MAGA or they're just having a mild disagreement, happens within families all the time or whose Musk? Never heard of him :roll:

The Antichrist & The False Prophet are still better options than the libtard community.

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That's gotta be the first time in history someone's used that against a white person :lol

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15012051][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gst4wO4XQAAJ5LY?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

That's gotta be the first time in history someone's used that against a white person :lol[/QUOTE]


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damn, MAGA fakkits have been extra quiet today...i wonder why...:roll:

[QUOTE=TheMan;15011971]Trumptards avoiding this thread.. haha

So they hate Musk now and he was never really MAGA or they're just having a mild disagreement, happens within families all the time or whose Musk? Never heard of him :roll:[/QUOTE]

Uh, why would I avoid the thread? [B]I made the f'n thread you nimrod.[/B] :oldlol:

What is there even to be ashamed of? All I did was make an incorrect prediction when it came to Trump and Elon's relationship. I didn't lie. I didn't flip flop. I didn't contradict myself.

And again I don't know why you're celebrating. I mean I get that you love to see the right in-fighting, but this makes you guys look just as bad. You guys swore up and down that Elon had Trump in his pocket. President Musk I believe you guys were calling him.

You're really so desperate for a win it's embarrassing. By all means if you wanna compare our track records when it comes to standing by our principles I'm more than happy to dig up all of your old posts and remind you of all your insane proclamations.

:oldlol:

[QUOTE=Baller234;15012059]Uh, why would I avoid the thread? [B]I made the f'n thread you nimrod.[/B] :oldlol:

What is there even to be ashamed of? All I did was make an incorrect prediction when it came to Trump and Elon's relationship. I didn't lie. I didn't flip flop. I didn't contradict myself.

And again I don't know why you're celebrating. I mean I get that you love to see the right in-fighting, but this makes you guys look just as bad. You guys swore up and down that Elon had Trump in his pocket. President Musk I believe you guys were calling him.

You're really so desperate for a win it's embarrassing. By all means if you wanna compare our track records when it comes to standing by our principles I'm more than happy to dig up all of your old posts and remind you of all your insane proclamations.

:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

I actually never said Trump was in Elon's pocket. I double dare you to find a post where I wrote something to that effect. Musk is a welfare queen, he LIVES off government contracts lol

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15012049]The Antichrist & The False Prophet are still better options than the libtard community.[/QUOTE]

This is actually normal politics. Arguing over bills, spending, the size of govt, etc.

This is what politics used to look like before wokism took fold. I would rather our leaders fight over this than whether or not up is down and left is right, or whether or not a chick can have a c0ck and balls.

Yo, this shit is hilarious.

[QUOTE=TheMan;15012060]I actually never said Trump was in Elon's pocket. I double dare you to find a post where I wrote something to that effect. Musk is a welfare queen, he LIVES off government contracts lol[/QUOTE]

You can play innocent all you want, it's been one of the left's primary modes of attack since Trump won the election. The democrats all parroted the same "oligarchy" talking points. Bernie and Ocrazyo did speaking tours over it.

Are you ready to admit it was all bullshit?

[video=youtube;JwGBVICkaZ0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwGBVICkaZ0[/video]

[QUOTE=Baller234;15012069]You can play innocent all you want, it's been one of the left's primary modes of attack since Trump won the election. The democrats all parroted the same "oligarchy" talking points. Bernie and Ocrazyo did speaking tours over it.

Are you ready to admit it was all bullshit?[/QUOTE]

Except I don't write speeches for AOC nor Bernie...

You've been one of Musk most ardent supporters... what's your honest take when Elon says Trump is def in the Epstein files and that's the reason they won't release them? No qualms at all that Orange Man Bad just might be a pedo? Also, how do you sleep at night? You're ok repping a child molester so long as you "owned duh libs"...? Asking for a friend...

And again, I'm not a liberal. Socially conservative and economically left but I can spot a false demagogue when I see one. Trump ain't our ally, never was. Unfortunately too many working class comrades are either too blind or too stupid to realize it, right Baller234?

When you finally wake up, we'll unite in arms and together we'll take down those who truly oppress us...until then, we believe it's only a matter of time and we'll welcome you with open arms. Either that or off to the reeducation camps, you capitalist pig :lol

[QUOTE=TheMan;15012180]And again, I'm not a liberal. Socially conservative and economically left but I can spot a false demagogue when I see one. Trump ain't our ally, never was. Unfortunately too many working class comrades are either too blind or too stupid to realize it, right Baller234?

When you finally wake up, we'll unite in arms and together we'll take down those who truly oppress us...until then, we believe it's only a matter of time and we'll welcome you with open arms. Either that or off to the reeducation camps, you capitalist pig :lol[/QUOTE]
Social conservatism with economic leftism is how you get nonsense like the USSR. You don't have to like it but it's important for everything to be progressive or it will be incoherent and have resistance.

[QUOTE=highwhey;15012057]damn, MAGA fakkits have been extra quiet today...i wonder why...:roll:[/QUOTE]

They aren’t petty beaners who get excited over tmz nonsense to make up for a void in their lives.

[QUOTE=RRR3;15012183]Social conservatism with economic leftism is how you get nonsense like the USSR. You don't have to like it but it's important for everything to be progressive or it will be incoherent and have resistance.[/QUOTE]

I just don't believe men can become women, the whole biological science gets in the way for me, and I don't believe there are 862 different genders, there are only two...nor do I believe a clump of cells aren't humans in the making and don't have rights. I can't get past that. I respect your right to disagree but expect that you respect my right to disagree too. :cheers:

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15012194]They aren’t petty beaners who get excited over tmz nonsense to make up for a void in their lives.[/QUOTE]

If TMZ says Donald Trump had sex with a minor?

Then Donald Trump had sex with a minor.

Realist most legit news source we have.