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[b]SINNERS has taken the DUSK til DAWN concept and improved it.
9/10[/b] [/center]
The Score
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Are you ****ing kidding me man?
Great ****ing movie.
I was gonna say: Not the most highly rated movie but it had me on the edge of my seat the whole time.
And it did.
But that final took it up another notch. Amazing twist.
It had me on the edge of my seat because there was so much at stake, and you genuinely didnt know how it woud turn out.
You definitely rooted for the thieves here, at least I did. Interesting to note because the director did not want Brando to play his character as charmingly as he did. Brando kind of went rogue on that. If he had played it more seriously/"bad guy", it would have given the whole thing a different feel/dynamic I suppose.
Even though in the beginning I didnt find DeNiro as more convincing than Norton, in terms of knowledge about the crime game, you rooted for him. Especially in the end.
The score(rating) would have this as just a nice heist flick, but I thought it was one of the better ones.
7.8/10 minimum, maybe 8/10. I guess re-watchability is one reason you could give it the lower score but I dont agree with the imdb rating of 6.9 at all. "cliche script" "standard plotting", man this shit was done right.
Layer Cake
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Great British gangster movie, mid early 2000s. Guy Ritchie style kinda but not by him.
Craig is great and his physique in this is perfect male body imo.
I watched this a couple days ago actually before The Score. My first 2 watched movies (besides the cinema ones) in a long time.
I love the tidbits and insights these crime movies have, when they show actual practical knowledge of how something is executed, how an operation is run, just an insight into said crime field.
The directors definitely do their research or work with people that give them info into however something is done typically.
7.6/10
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15020372]The Score
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Are you ****ing kidding me man?
Great ****ing movie.
I was gonna say: Not the most highly rated movie but it had me on the edge of my seat the whole time.
And it did.
But that final took it up another notch. Amazing twist.
It had me on the edge of my seat because there was so much at stake, and you genuinely didnt know how it woud turn out.
You definitely rooted for the thieves here, at least I did. Interesting to note because the director did not want Brando to play his character as charmingly as he did. Brando kind of went rogue on that. If he had played it more seriously/"bad guy", it would have given the whole thing a different feel/dynamic I suppose.
Even though in the beginning I didnt find DeNiro as more convincing than Norton, in terms of knowledge about the crime game, you rooted for him. Especially in the end.
The score(rating) would have this as just a nice heist flick, but I thought it was one of the better ones.
7.8/10 minimum, maybe 8/10. I guess re-watchability is one reason you could give it the lower score but I dont agree with the imdb rating of 6.9 at all. "cliche script" "standard plotting", man this shit was done right.[/QUOTE]
I liked this movie. Great cast. I did laugh about how a huge plotline of the movie is Edward Norton pretending he has down syndrome. :lol
But they did it somewhat tastefully and it worked and it was an interesting plotline because they showed how psycho and committed Norton’s character was. Today I’m pretty sure that plotline doesn’t fly though.
[QUOTE=warriorfan;15020377]I liked this movie. Great cast. I did laugh about how a huge plotline of the movie is Edward Norton pretending he has down syndrome. :lol
But they did it somewhat tastefully and it worked and it was an interesting plotline because they showed how psycho and committed Norton’s character was. Today I’m pretty sure that plotline doesn’t fly though.[/QUOTE]
The rating is actually 6.8 even meant to edit that. Def too low.
The only absurd thing was DeNiros "GF" freaking out over him saying he has to do 1 more thing and then they could get together. She never even comited to him before so wtf is the problem lol
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The early part of the movie felt average because the protagonist gets sidelined with severe injury, a somewhat sad moment. But the mid and late parts become more interesting, as he recovers and claws his way back to relevance and competition. I still find the prequel (released in 2011) to be slightly better and more funny though.
Overall: 7.5/10
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The early part of the movie felt average because the protagonist gets sidelined with severe injury, a somewhat sad moment. But the mid and late parts become more interesting, as he recovers and claws his way back to relevance and competition. I still find the prequel (released in 2011) to be slightly better and more funny though.
Overall: 7.5/10[/QUOTE]
It's interesting to see Axe provide a somewhat serious review for something. Even giving an overall score from 1 to 10. His current avatar also gives it a different, more serious feel.
Perhaps he meant to use a different account.
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15020380]The rating is actually 6.8 even meant to edit that. Def too low.
The only absurd thing was DeNiros "GF" freaking out over him saying he has to do 1 more thing and then they could get together. She never even comited to him before so wtf is the problem lol[/QUOTE]
I’m down with giving it a 7.5 but I admit I like good noir movies so it’s a bit inflated.
Good premise and good cast and pretty well executed. Good movie.
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Can you not do this here?
Vanilla Sky
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**** man. An emotional watch. Very thought provoking movie, on many levels.
Another one where I dont understand the lowly rating.
Sad but very interesting and makes you think. A movie about love and life.
The last 30 minutes are classic stuff imo.
Damn.
7.8/10
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[b]Superman 2025 works for me, no complaints over here
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Not a 10/10 masterpiece... but it got close at times. It's a must watch film and should tug at your emotions a little. It's messy, A $hit ton of characters, and has some flaws, But there is so much more to like about this movie than there is to dislike.
The political undertones did not bother me. I thought the love story fit in nicely, not overdone. Overall just a good family film with a solid life message. The CGI was amazing, action was solid, and I would rank it above any of the Guardians of the Galaxy movies which had the same type of cartoon feel, but yet unique in it's own way. This film qualifies as a piece of ART. The new Superman theme music is great too.
went in with low expectations... because it's not the dark, serious type of movie that I typically enjoy, but walked away satisfied.
If it's not your cup of tea, that's very understandable... but it worked for me.
From the Rumors online.... we are getting a more serious and dark Spiderman movie w/ Punisher and Hulk... which could be a possible 10/10 masterpiece.
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I don't know what to make of the Superman reviews. I'm subscribed to a number of movie reviewers on YT and they're all over the place.
[QUOTE=Phoenix;15021651]I don't know what to make of the Superman reviews. I'm subscribed to a number of movie reviewers on YT and they're all over the place.[/QUOTE]
It's going to get mixed reviews... Personally I thought it started out very strong, and somewhere towards the end it started to fall off a little.
My 8.5 score was probably a little too high.... but I was very entertained and that's what I need from a movie.
I saw the new Jurassic Park movie in theaters... and Superman destroyed it in terms of entertainment value.
Yeah by most accounts I've seen/read that Jurassic Park landed with a thud.
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Good 1 minute review right there... My thoughts exactly.
Doomsday I have to ask what are you smoking. I saw Superman today and I thought it was terrible. Like really, really awful.
Not seeing how this was in any way a good family film. There's a lot of swearing, a lot of over the top violence and a lot of long boring conversations about geopolitics. I didn't see this movie with a small child but I can't imagine they would find this movie entertaining. The movie already starts on such a dour note and then within 10 minutes there's a long drawn out scene of Clark and Lois arguing about international affairs.
I definitely would not call this a family film or even a good wholesome movie period. I'm sure in James Gunn's sick twisted mind that's what he thinks he made, but it was not that at all. It was a dumb, shallow, chaotic mess. When I think of the type of person who would find this movie entertaining I can't help but picture some low IQ edgelord with arrested development who hasn't emotionally moved on from junior high. That and uber comic nerds who have no standards whatsoever and are just happy to consume anything that has a Marvel or DC branding attached to it.
James Gunn is a very troubled man and it shows. Just look at how the dog is depicted in this movie. Again in his weird mind he thought the dog would be endearing because "hey dogs are crazy sometimes right??"... lol no actually. This dog is wild and doesn't listen. He's not cute, he's dangerous and he's annoying. This Superman can't even keep his fukking dog in check.
I could go on. There are a million things I could criticize. Just a weird, bizarre movie.
I hope it bombs and WB loses as much money as they can.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15021853]Doomsday I have to ask what are you smoking. I saw Superman today and I thought it was terrible. Like really, really awful.
Not seeing how this was in any way a good family film. There's a lot of swearing, a lot of over the top violence and a lot of long boring conversations about geopolitics. I didn't see this movie with a small child but I can't imagine they would find this movie entertaining. The movie already starts on such a dour note and then within 10 minutes there's a long drawn out scene of Clark and Lois arguing about international affairs.
I definitely would not call this a family film or even a good wholesome movie period. I'm sure in James Gunn's sick twisted mind that's what he thinks he made, but it was not that at all. It was a dumb, shallow, chaotic mess. When I think of the type of person who would find this movie entertaining I can't help but picture some low IQ edgelord with arrested development who hasn't emotionally moved on from junior high. That and uber comic nerds who have no standards whatsoever and are just happy to consume anything that has a Marvel or DC branding attached to it.
James Gunn is a very troubled man and it shows. Just look at how the dog is depicted in this movie. Again in his weird mind he thought the dog would be endearing because "hey dogs are crazy sometimes right??"... lol no actually. This dog is wild and doesn't listen. He's not cute, he's dangerous and he's annoying. This Superman can't even keep his fukking dog in check.
I could go on. There are a million things I could criticize. Just a weird, bizarre movie.
I hope it bombs and WB loses as much money as they can.[/QUOTE]
When I say "family film".... it depends on the child.
Some children are exposed to the real world at an early age, some are overly sheltered and never exposed to anything until they hit high school or hit puberty.
My parents took me to see Die Hard when I was 9 years old.... I raised my kids the same way.
There is a balance that needs to be upheld, you want to protect a child's innocence, but yet they need to be introduced the harsh elements of reality simultaneously.
I don't see any reason why a 3rd grader can't see this film.
Louis & Clark fighting about political issues... is more about two adult people in a relationship arguing... not the politics it self.
I saw that scene as more about "relationships" as opposed to "Politics" .... the focal point of that scene is Louis saying "I knew this was never going to work" because they had a different views.
one reviewer called the film "a beautiful mess".... and that's kinda what life is.... a beautiful mess.
The whole motto of the film is that you're gonna make mistakes even if your Superman.... as you pointed out, he couldn't keep his dog in check.
A "family film" is supposed to be a movie that everyone in the family can enjoy. Mom, dad, brother, sister, grandma, grandpa. That's cool that your parents allowed you to watch Die Hard but that doesn't mean it was a family film. Those were rated-R movies not intended for children.
I just don't know why a filmmaker would take that kind of approach to this kind of film. There is not supposed to be anything "edgy" about Superman. He's classic coke. He's vanilla ice cream. That is what makes him great and that is his appeal. The cursing, the violence, the weirdness, combined with international politics, it just didn't feel very family friendly to me. I don't think children have the patience for this kind of movie. I didn't even have the patience. I was looking at the time 20 minutes in.
I'm not even sure what the "motto" of this movie was supposed to be, but if that is you're interpretation, "we all make mistakes"... that is very odd choice for a Superman movie. That to me sounds like someone who is trying to tear down Superman and not uplift him. That's not what the audience wants or expects from this character. He is supposed to be a beacon who inspires people to be the best version of themselves. We are supposed to see him doing extraordinary things and overcome impossible challenges. This Superman gets his ass kicked the ENTIRE movie.
James Gunn is a woke lefty weirdo. This is a guy who unironically believes in toxic masculinity so it's no surprise he doesn't believe in what Superman is supposed to be represent. That's why he has to tear him down. Look at how he even distorted his kryptonian family origin and made them out to be evil. FFS he doesn't even save Lois at any point in the movie. How tf do you make a Superman movie and not have him save Lois. Literally one of the core aspects of the character.
For the crime of making this movie and releasing it to the public, James Gunn should have to serve 72 hours in Luthor's pocket universe prison.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15021916]A "family film" is supposed to be a movie that everyone in the family can enjoy. Mom, dad, brother, sister, grandma, grandpa. That's cool that your parents allowed you to watch Die Hard but that doesn't mean it was a family film. Those were rated-R movies not intended for children.
I just don't know why a filmmaker would take that kind of approach to this kind of film. There is not supposed to be anything "edgy" about Superman. He's classic coke. He's vanilla ice cream. That is what makes him great and that is his appeal. The cursing, the violence, the weirdness, combined with international politics, it just didn't feel very family friendly to me. I don't think children have the patience for this kind of movie. I didn't even have the patience. I was looking at the time 20 minutes in.
I'm not even sure what the "motto" of this movie was supposed to be, but if that is you're interpretation, "we all make mistakes"... that is very odd choice for a Superman movie. That to me sounds like someone who is trying to tear down Superman and not uplift him. [B]That's not what the audience wants or expects from this character[/B]. He is supposed to be a beacon who inspires people to be the best version of themselves. We are supposed to see him doing extraordinary things and overcome impossible challenges. This Superman gets his ass kicked the ENTIRE movie.
James Gunn is a woke lefty weirdo. This is a guy who unironically believes in toxic masculinity so it's no surprise he doesn't believe in what Superman is supposed to be represent. That's why he has to tear him down. Look at how he even distorted his kryptonian family origin and made them out to be evil. FFS he doesn't even save Lois at any point in the movie. How tf do you make a Superman movie and not have him save Lois. Literally one of the core aspects of the character.
For the crime of making this movie and releasing it to the public, James Gunn should have to serve 72 hours in Luthor's pocket universe prison.[/QUOTE]
Dude…speak for yourself.
There is a reason Superman garners the least interest from a media standpoint of all of the major super hero’s, and it’s for the reasons you’ve stated. It’s boring..
It’s 2025. Who the hell wants to watch a vanilla ass Superman movie?
Taking chances and making it different was the ONLY way to approach this. And aside from extreme conservatives such as yourself, it seems Gunn pleased the crowd.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15021924]Dude…speak for yourself.
There is a reason Superman garners the least interest from a media standpoint of all of the major super hero’s, and it’s for the reasons you’ve stated. It’s boring..
[B]It’s 2025. Who the hell wants to watch a vanilla ass Superman movie? [/B]
Taking chances and making it different was the ONLY way to approach this. And aside from extreme conservatives such as yourself, it seems Gunn pleased the crowd.[/QUOTE]
You mean who still wants vanilla ice cream? Everyone actually. What kind of stupid question is this? Are you suggesting that since it's 2025 no one likes vanilla ice cream anymore?
How do you know it pleased the crowd? I actually just saw a report that said it grossed less than Man of Steel which came out 10 years ago and is on pace to do very poor internationally. The film itself might not even make money for the studio. The opening weekend figures seem okay enough but it's also an extremely well known brand with a lot of promotion. I'm guessing the word of mouth won't carry it.
But yea, not sure why you would want an "edgy" Superman. Every iteration of edgy Superman has crashed and burned.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15021928][B]You mean who still wants vanilla ice cream?[/B] Everyone actually. What kind of stupid question is this? Are you suggesting that since it's 2025 no one likes vanilla ice cream anymore?
How do you know it pleased the crowd? I actually just saw a report that said it grossed less than Man of Steel which came out 10 years ago and is on pace to do very poor internationally. The film itself might not even make money for the studio. The opening weekend figures seem okay enough but it's also an extremely well known brand with a lot of promotion. I'm guessing the word of mouth won't carry it.
But yea, not sure why you would want an "edgy" Superman. Every iteration of edgy Superman has crashed and burned.[/QUOTE]
No. I meant who wants a vanilla Superman movie. I don't "want" an edgy Superman. I just don't want it to be like it's always been because, again..it's boring.
Maybe you do, and that's cool. But you are objectively not in the majority.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15021934]No. I meant who wants a vanilla Superman movie. I don't "want" an edgy Superman. I just don't want it to be like it's always been because, again..it's boring.
Maybe you do, and that's cool. But you are objectively not in the majority.[/QUOTE]
So your ideal version of Superman is a Superman who gets cucked the entire movie and proves that humans make mistakes?
:oldlol:
[QUOTE=Baller234;15021938]So your ideal version of Superman is a Superman who gets cucked the entire movie and proves that humans make mistakes?
:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
If that's how you want to interpret what I said then have at it. Unreal :lol
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15021939]If that's how you want to interpret what I said then have at it. Unreal :lol[/QUOTE]
You may want to check your response again, buddy.
I said audiences don't want a cucked Superman. You specifically bolded that part in my post and then proceeded to tell me that I should speak for myself.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15021940]You may want to check your response again, buddy.
[B]I said audiences don't want a cucked Superman. You specifically bolded that part in my post and then proceeded to tell me that I should speak for myself[/B].[/QUOTE]
Correct. You should.
Nowhere did I give [I]my[/I] ideal Superman. Or anyone else's. I said that changing things up was a good move. You're caught up on the wrong things. Which is unsurprising.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15021942]Correct. You should.
Nowhere did I give [I]my[/I] ideal Superman. Or anyone else's. I said that changing things up was a good move. You're caught up on the wrong things. Which is unsurprising.[/QUOTE]
So you're grand thesis is that... "Hey maybe people do want a cucked Superman..."
Lol, so you want to deconstruct the character from the ground up and totally change what he's about... but then if someone dares to mention it you accuse them of focusing on the wrong things. So caring about how the character is being represented is focusing on the wrong things?
What can I say, enjoy your cucked out Superman. I'm sure you find it very relatable. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Baller234;15021943]So you're grand thesis is that... "Hey maybe people do want a cucked Superman..."
Lol, so you want to deconstruct the character from the ground up and totally change what he's about... but then if someone dares to mention it you accuse them of focusing on the wrong things. So caring about how the character is being represented is focusing on the wrong things?
What can I say, enjoy your cucked out Superman. I'm sure you find it very relatable. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I feel like I'm being pretty clear in what I'm saying and you're still not seeming to get it at all. Oh well.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15021946]I feel like I'm being pretty clear in what I'm saying and you're still not seeming to get it at all. Oh well.[/QUOTE]
Yea, you tried to insinuate I didn't like the movie because I'm an "extreme conservative". You're tripping over your words because you said something stupid and rushed to judgement without thinking.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15021948]Yea, you tried to insinuate I didn't like the movie because I'm an "extreme conservative". [B]You're tripping over your words[/B] because you said something stupid and rushed to judgement without thinking.[/QUOTE]
Yea..quite the opposite. I said something very succinctly and VERY clearly and you are the one twisting things either because you're upset or lack basic comprehension skills.
When you include this in your post..
[QUOTE]James Gunn is a woke lefty weirdo[/QUOTE]
..it's not hard to put two and two together.
But either way, it's all missing my point. All I said was that it is a good move to switch things up, and the reception to it (again..aside from a select few) bear that out.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15021949]Yea..quite the opposite. I said something very succinctly and VERY clearly and you are the one twisting things either because you're upset or lack basic comprehension skills.
When you include this in your post..
..it's not hard to put two and two together.
But either way, it's all missing my point. All I said was that it is a good move to switch things up, and the reception to it (again..aside from a select few) bear that out.[/QUOTE]
James Gunn is a woke lefty weirdo though, I wasn't lying. If you disagree with what I said then feel free to set the record straight and provide facts that prove me wrong.
But don't be upset with what I said when it's the truth.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15021959]James Gunn is a woke lefty weirdo though, I wasn't lying. [B]If you disagree with what I said[/B] then feel free to set the record straight and provide facts that prove me wrong.
But don't be upset with what I said when it's the truth.[/QUOTE]
So now you're trying to get me to argue that James Gunn isn't a woke lefty? Jesus you really have lost the plot :lol
I'm not disagreeing with what you said on that specifically. I don't know a ton about the guy and don't care. It just shows where your head is at.
None of that addresses the actual point anyway..
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15021965]So now you're trying to get me to argue that James Gunn isn't a woke lefty? Jesus you really have lost the plot :lol
I'm not disagreeing with what you said on that specifically. I don't know a ton about the guy and don't care. It just shows where your head is at.
None of that addresses the actual point anyway..[/QUOTE]
So why did you just blindly assume that my take on the film was political and off base? If you concede that the director of the film is a woke weirdo and he purposely set out to deconstruct and alter the perception of the character, what exactly is your problem with my reading of the film?
Why can't you just admit I raise a valid argument?
Omg for fvck's sake. Okay, how about this...
[QUOTE]Dude…speak for yourself.
There is a reason Superman garners the least interest from a media standpoint of all of the major super hero’s, and it’s for the reasons you’ve stated. It’s boring..
It’s 2025. Who the hell wants to watch a vanilla ass Superman movie?
Taking chances and making it different was the ONLY way to approach this. And aside from a select few, it seems Gunn pleased the crowd.[/QUOTE]
My original post edited slightly to perhaps better keep you on track. That better?
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15021969]Omg for fvck's sake. Okay, how about this...
My original post edited slightly to perhaps better keep you on track. That better?[/QUOTE]
Lol okay but this is also false. Superman was far and away the most popular super hero. The only reason he lost momentum was because the movies kept on sucking.
The hype for Superman Returns was huge but of course that movie blew dick. The hype for Man of Steel was also huge but that movie also blew dick. This new movie was ANOTHER reboot after multiple failures and it's still having a decent opening weekend. That to me says there is still a strong demand for the character.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15021971]Lol okay but this is also false. Superman was far and away the most popular super hero. The only reason he lost momentum was because the movies kept on sucking.
The hype for Superman Returns was huge but of course that movie blew dick. The hype for Man of Steel was also huge but that movie also blew dick. This new movie was ANOTHER reboot after multiple failures and it's still having a decent opening weekend. That to me says there is still a strong demand for the character.[/QUOTE]
Superman is a popular super hero, sure. But I think it's pretty well-understood that the character as a whole is less interesting narratively than many of the others. Hence why it's more difficult to make a good movie out it.
This one seems to have hit the mark for most but none of the other ones have, as you said. Which is why it was a good idea to switch things up.
Hey um so I think the confusion here stems from the fact that Shawk thinks Blacks are a super well integrated part of society, who arent any more criminal than other groups and have no problem behaviour/culture wise.
This kind of world view of course is very indoctrinated and NPC and leads to quick attempts to shut down any sort of acknowledgement of movies becoming culturally worse/weaker.
And to be specific,
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15021965]So now you're trying to get me to argue that James Gunn isn't a woke lefty? Jesus you really have lost the plot :lol[/QUOTE]
no, but thats what your disagreement stemmed from, remember?
anyway ciao peeps theres many better movies to talk about
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15021974]Superman is a popular super hero, sure. But I think it's pretty well-understood that the character as a whole is less interesting narratively than many of the others. Hence why it's more difficult to make a good movie out it.
This one seems to have hit the mark for most but none of the other ones have, as you said. Which is why it was a good idea to switch things up.[/QUOTE]
I mean I respect that Supes isn't your favorite character, and you're entitled to that opinion, but I think you're just wrong. If he were "less interesting" then he wouldn't be the icon he currently is today. He's the highest selling comic character of all time by leaps and bounds. I understand a lot of that has to do with him being the first and the oldest but he only has one year on Batman and he's outsold Batman by like 150 million comics. So there's a 90 year history of compelling Superman stories to choose from. Even the Donner movies, while not perfect and kind of hammy in spots, are revered classics. The reason Superman is seeing diminishing returns is because WB keeps doing damage to the brand with these god awful movies.
I think Marvel did a decent enough job with the Captain America movies. He's a similar boy scout do good type character, but somehow he manages to come off cool and likable in those movies. Meanwhile WB keeps handing the reigns for Superman over to directors who are either gay, woke or retarded.
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;15022018]Hey um so I think the confusion here stems from the fact that Shawk thinks Blacks are a super well integrated part of society, who arent any more criminal than other groups and have no problem behaviour/culture wise.
This kind of world view of course is very indoctrinated and NPC and leads to quick attempts to shut down any sort of acknowledgement of movies becoming culturally worse/weaker.
And to be specific,
[B]no, but thats what your disagreement stemmed from, remember?[/B]
anyway ciao peeps theres many better movies to talk about[/QUOTE]
No, it isn't.
Piss off dude :lol