LeBron James has the highest career plus/minus in the playoffs, at +1270.

Lebron James in the finals:

[B][SIZE=6]-86[/SIZE][/B]


:lebronamazed:

[QUOTE=Walk on Water;15026109]lol he has a negative plus minus against the West. That means what he did in the East don’t matter cuz when it counts on the highest stage he’s a negative. You gonna try to NERD your way out of this one?[/QUOTE]

:roll:

ALPHA AF

Tell ‘em



This thread is quickly turning into an instant classic. Dudes getting absolutely wrecked in here :roll:

Remember back in 2019 when the narrative was "Bron never won a Finals playing in the West"

Now the narrative is "He has negative on/off playing in the West, I don't care if he was in his late 30's & 40"

Damn, this is what Bron haters have been reduced too. How pathetic. :lol

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026156]Remember back in 2019 when the narrative was "Bron never won a Finals playing in the West"

Now the narrative is "He has negative on/off playing in the West, I don't care if he was in his late 30's & 40"

Damn, this is what Bron haters have been reduced too. How pathetic. :lol[/QUOTE]

Look up his playoff on off in his prime vs the west lmao

Look up how the eastern conference was legit historically weak during bron’s hayday

Bron joined the league as they changed the rules to open up offense on the perimeter and also got to play in one of the, if not the weakest conference in the history of the NBA

As my dog Walk on Water said, let’s see your little midge ass try to nerd your way out of this one.


:roll:

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026156]Remember back in 2019 when the narrative was "Bron never won a Finals playing in the West"

Now the narrative is "He has negative on/off playing in the West, I don't care if he was in his late 30's & 40"

Damn, this is what Bron haters have been reduced too. How pathetic. :lol[/QUOTE]

^Bitch is [B][SIZE=6]SHOOK[/SIZE][/B].

:yaohappy:

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15026157]Look up his playoff on off in his prime vs the west lmao

Look up how the eastern conference was legit historically weak during bron’s hayday

Bron joined the league as they changed the rules to open up offense on the perimeter and also got to play in one of the, if not the weakest conference in the history of the NBA

As my dog Walk on Water said, let’s see your little midge ass try to nerd your way out of this one.


:roll:[/QUOTE]

Let's be real. If LeBron failed to win 3 of the 4 FMVP like Curry did, you would be on his case non-stop. The sad part is Curry wouldn't even have won FMVP if the Warriors won in 2016 & 2019. :lol

Curry needed a shit ton of injuries from the Cavs to win in 2015, then he needed KD who won FMVP over him to win back to back.

Absolutely pathetic.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026162]Let's be real. If LeBron failed to win 3 of the 4 FMVP like Curry did, you would be on his case non-stop. The sad part is Curry wouldn't even have won FMVP if the Warriors won in 2016 & 2019. :lol

Curry needed a shit ton of injuries from the Cavs to win in 2015, then he needed KD who won FMVP over him to win back to back.

Absolutely pathetic.[/QUOTE]

Let’s be real.

Bron profited off joining the league while they changed the rules to help perimeter players while playing in a historically weak eastern conference.

Confront those two facts like you confront the fact you said you are 5’8” (actually don’t confront it like that because you are totally in denial you are a midge who never played ball)

To put it simply there are two groups of people. People who lived above the rim and people who lived below. You are an underclass individual.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15026165]Let’s be real.

Bron profited off joining the league while they changed the rules to help perimeter players while playing in a historically weak eastern conference.

Confront those two facts like you confront the fact you said you are 5’8” (actually don’t confront it like that because you are totally in denial you are a midge who never played ball)[/QUOTE]

The funny thing is LeBron joined the league when NBA teams were averaging around 93 PPG.

In fact, the league average in team points didn't crack 100 PPG until 2009, which is around the time Curry came into the league.

Hell even in the 2012 season, NBA teams were averaging around 96 PPG. LeBron at least had 10 years in the league going up against legit defenses

If anything, Curry profited off joining the league when it was starting to gear more towards offense.

It wasn't until the mid 10's when offenses really took off, which happened to be during Curry's peak. :lol

I can't believe a Curry stan would really use this argument.

What a backfire. :lol

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026168]The funny thing is LeBron joined the league when NBA teams were averaging around 93 PPG.

In fact, the league average in team points didn't crack 100 PPG until 2009, which is around the time Curry came into the league.

If anything, Curry profited off joining the league when it was starting to gear more towards offense.

Hell even in the 2012 season, NBA teams were averaging around 96 PPG. LeBron at least 10 years in the league going up against legit defense

It wasn't until the mid 10's when offenses really took off, which happened to be during Curry's peak. :lol

I can't believe a Curry stan would really use this argument.

What a backfire. :lol[/QUOTE]
What happened in the NBA in 2006 my midget mo f.ucker?

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15026169]What happened in the NBA in 2006 my midget mo f.ucker?[/QUOTE]

There was real NBA defense back then crackhead snitch.

Your hero profited more off this current NBA more than any other player especially with the "freedom of movement" rule.

LeBron actually played in a league where defenses dominated, unlike Curry.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026170]There was real NBA defense back then crackhead snitch.

Your hero profited more off this current NBA more than any other player especially with the "freedom of movement" rule.

LeBron actually played in a league where defenses dominated, unlike Curry.[/QUOTE]

WOW! This clown is actually ADMITTING that Lebron couldn't win a championship in a defense dominated league. He only won anything when the NBA skewed things to make offense easier.

Lebron wouldn't even have been Patrick Ewing level in the 90s.

[QUOTE=Full Court;15026172]WOW! This clown is actually ADMITTING that Lebron couldn't win a championship in a defense dominated league. He only won anything when the NBA skewed things to make offense easier.

Lebron wouldn't even have been Patrick Ewing level in the 90s.[/QUOTE]

Wrong. Teams averaged under 100 PPG in 2012 & 2013. Same can't be said for any of Curry's chips, even the fraud ones.

:lebronamazed:

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026174]Wrong. Teams averaged under 100 PPG in 2012 & 2013. Same can't be said for any of Curry's chips, even the fraud ones.

:lebronamazed:[/QUOTE]

Not even Patrick Ewing level.

Suck on that for a while.

:lebronamazed:

[QUOTE=Full Court;15026176]Not even Patrick Ewing level.

Suck on that for a while.

:lebronamazed:[/QUOTE]

If that is your only response, you got cooked my son.

:lol

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026170]There was real NBA defense back then crackhead snitch.

Your hero profited more off this current NBA more than any other player especially with the "freedom of movement" rule.

LeBron actually played in a league where defenses dominated, unlike Curry.[/QUOTE]

Wait so you are saying the NBA had no rule changes during this period that led to an explosion of perimeter scoring?


:roll:



(Jeff sticky this thread please)

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026177]If that is your only response, you got cooked my son.

:lol[/QUOTE]

You're so desperate that now you've resorted to trying to convince us that Lebron is better than Curry. :roll:

Curry's the best player of his generation. Did you know that Lebron tried recruiting him, and Curry just laughed? No wonder you're so bitter.

:lebronamazed:

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15026182]Wait so you are saying the NBA had no rule changes during this period that led to an explosion of perimeter scoring?


:roll:

[/QUOTE]

You do realize LeBron averaged 27 PPG as a 20 year old in 2005 before the rule change right?

Curry hasn't cracked 27 PPG in like 3 years, despite playing in a more offensive friendly league.

Pathetic.

:roll:

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026189]You do realize LeBron averaged 27 PPG as a 20 year old in 2005 before the rule change right?

Curry hasn't cracked 27 PPG in like 3 years, despite playing in a more offensive friendly league.

Pathetic.

:roll:[/QUOTE]

It took him over 42 mins a game on a team who couldn’t even make the playoffs in the historically weak eastern conference.

empty stats

next.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026189]You do realize LeBron averaged 27 PPG as a 20 year old in 2005 before the rule change right?

Curry hasn't cracked 27 PPG in like 3 years, despite playing in a more offensive friendly league.

Pathetic.

:roll:[/QUOTE]

You do realize that young Jordan averaged 35 ppg and won 10 scoring titles, right?

By the way, how many scoring titles has LeShrivel won?

And how many DPOY awards?

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[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026162]Let's be real. If LeBron failed to win 3 of the 4 FMVP like Curry did, you would be on his case non-stop. The sad part is Curry wouldn't even have won FMVP if the Warriors won in 2016 & 2019. :lol

Curry needed a shit ton of injuries from the Cavs to win in 2015, then he needed KD who won FMVP over him to win back to back.

Absolutely pathetic.[/QUOTE]

LeBron in his losing effort in 2015 still received 4 fmvp votes. That's the same amount of fmvp votes Curry received in his first 5 Finals combined.

:lol

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15026197]It took him over 42 mins a game on a team who couldn’t even make the playoffs in the historically weak eastern conference.

empty stats

next.[/QUOTE]

Didn't Curry average 32 PPG one season where he failed to reach the playoffs as well?

Empty stats.

[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15026210]LeBron in his losing effort in 2015 still received 4 fmvp votes. That's the same amount of fmvp votes Curry received in his first 5 Finals combined.

:lol[/QUOTE]

Ouch

[QUOTE=Full Court;15026205]You do realize that young Jordan averaged 35 ppg and won 10 scoring titles, right?

By the way, how many scoring titles has LeShrivel won?

And how many DPOY awards?

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We know he won 10 scoring titles , but what we really truly want to know is:

How many FGA titles did he win?

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15026267]We know he won 10 scoring titles , but what we really truly want to know is:

How many FGA titles did he win?[/QUOTE]

Hey LeBron is old news. Luca got his extension and it’s his team now. Let’s move on.

[QUOTE=Walk on Water;15026270]Hey LeBron is old news. Luca got his extension and it’s his team now. Let’s move on.[/QUOTE]

Too bad you're still gonna be here getting embarrassed trying to hate on him.

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15026289]Too bad you're still gonna be here getting embarrassed trying to hate on him.[/QUOTE]


I wouldn't call it hate, I would call it being fair. I barely even mention the steroids, women dresses, and P diddy parties.

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15026289]Too bad you're still gonna be here getting embarrassed trying to hate on him.[/QUOTE]

Your point of reference is all off dawg

If this is a number line where 10 is a huge bron stan, -10 is a deranged bron hater, and 0 is an objective basketball fan making observations and fair critiques….

You are far more at the 8 to 6 range, where the poster you are quoting is more at the -2 to -4 range (that’s being generous)

To sum it up. When you are as big of a biased stan as you are, any sort of completely fair examination gets emotionally dismissed as “hating”.

This sort of response is highly emotional driven and of low iq. Its not a good look.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15026347]Your point of reference is all off dawg

If this is a number line where 10 is a huge bron stan, -10 is a deranged bron hater, and 0 is an objective basketball fan making observations and fair critiques….

You are far more at the 8 to 6 range, [B]where the poster you are quoting is more at the -2 to -4 range (that’s being generous) [/B]

To sum it up. When you are as big of a biased stan as you are, any sort of completely fair examination gets emotionally dismissed as “hating”.

This sort of response is highly emotional driven and of low iq. Its not a good look.[/QUOTE]

-2 to a guy who just got banned for spamming anti Bron threads non stop. LOL.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15026349]-2 to a guy who just got banned for spamming anti Bron threads non stop. LOL.[/QUOTE]

He’s raising legit basketball questions regarding the most popular basketball figure by a long shot of this era.


Lebron is the most popular player, the legitimate new GOAT as you claim, yet he’s not a well warranted topic of discussion?

This is a pretty strange thought process.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15025681]The same one Wade nor Bosh could win a playoff series in for 4 years before joining LeBron.[/QUOTE]

:lol