Chauncey Billiups and Rozier got arrested by the FBI on gambling charges.

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15039011]To me tanking is playing guys that shouldnt be playing because you dont want to win. Jazz were playing williams last year when he should have been in gleague. Got fined for benching healthy lauri. Nba should be for proven nba players. Should be in gleague or elsewhere until they prove it[/QUOTE]
Som a coach should now be concerned with whether or not the FBI agrees with his substitutions?

Far as why gambling isn’t treated like being a crackhead or hair when addict? The lack of victims I suppose. At least when you’re rich. Rich drug addicts don’t get treated like crackheads either. They’re in movies and people pay to hear them sing about being addicted to drugs. They are elected to office.

A poor crackhead destroys his family. Charles Barkley can gamble as much as he wants. His family doesn’t suffer.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;15039018]Som a coach should now be concerned with whether or not the FBI agrees with his substitutions?[/QUOTE]

No the nba should be. Silver has said he isnt. Its a joke.they could have an actual minor league. They dont.

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I'm trying to keep my opinion of the current FBI head separate.

[QUOTE]"[B]Victims believed that they were sitting at a fair table," Tisch said. "Instead, they were cheated out of millions.[/B]"

Text messages between the defendants as they allegedly carried out their scheme show that, in one such game in Las Vegas on April 2019, [B]Billups was winning so many improbable hands with the help of a rigged shuffling machine that his overseers said he needed to lose on purpose to avoid being suspected of cheating.

Following another rigged game in October 2020, Billups was wired $50,000 for his participation[/B], the memo states.[/QUOTE]


^ This sounds like Billups was a knowing and willing participant in what was basically robbery.



GOBB, your thoughts?

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15039042]^ This sounds like Billups was a knowing and willing participant in what was basically robbery.



GOBB, your thoughts?[/QUOTE]

It will cost you

[QUOTE=GOBB;15038986]No one wigs out over folks drinking alcohol, pushing/promoting it. Same deal with gambling. I’m confused.

Drug abuse and prostitution. That’s nasty business. But Sheens business. You want the moral compass adjusted to that is funny. Folks like Barkley are criticized for being “dumb”, “stupid” gambling away his bread. Not sure we need to turn the energy up louder.[/QUOTE]

If you get arrested in an alcoholic or drug related situation the media and public trip.

Tiger Woods is a good example.

Nobody says, “nothing to see here”.

But gambling? Half this thread is defending a dude who just got “arrested” in some alleged mafia gambling shit. lol.

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15039044]It will cost you[/QUOTE]


:roll: :cheers:

Yea, Billups is fvcked if that's true.

Rest in piss.

Love that we get a big NBA story on a night where Inside the NBA is coming on. This should be entertaining.

According to Windhorst:

The indictment also alleged that Billups, WHILE COACH of the Blazers, tipped off some gambler that Lillard, who was listed as probable for an upcoming game, would not actually play. Lillard was indeed downgraded to questionable LATER in the day and in fact did not play.


GOBB, your thoughts?

Yea this is definitely a scammer situation. **** em.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15039042]^ This sounds like Billups was a knowing and willing participant in what was basically robbery.



GOBB, your thoughts?[/QUOTE]


Theyre black! Innocent!

Free OJ!!!

:lol

These scumbags weren't just playing poker with "mob guys". They were scamming and robbing people while already BEING RICH.

Big time scumbag move.

[QUOTE=tpols;15039062]Theyre black! Innocent!

Free OJ!!!

:lol

These scumbags weren't just playing poker with "mob guys". They were scamming and robbing people while already BEING RICH.

Big time scumbag move.[/QUOTE]

What’s funny is the OJ thing was because of the mob and his involvement in this kind of underworld shady business.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15039058]According to Windhorst:

The indictment also alleged that Billups, WHILE COACH of the Blazers, tipped off some gambler that Lillard, who was listed as probable for an upcoming game, would not actually play. Lillard was indeed downgraded to questionable LATER in the day and in fact did not play.


GOBB, your thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Did they subpoena his phone records?

This ninja wasnt covering his tracks at all. :lol Tipping cats off over the internet and phone.

[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt;15039045]If you get arrested in an alcoholic or drug related situation the media and public trip.

Tiger Woods is a good example.

Nobody says, “nothing to see here”.

But gambling? Half this thread is defending a dude who just got “arrested” in some alleged mafia gambling shit. lol.[/QUOTE]

What do you think was said about Malik Beasley? Honest opinion. In fact there’s a thread here made about it. Wasn’t no defending in there. Not many doubling back about judging him when charges were dropped. Yet he lost millions. So I’m not getting it.

Billups is getting the benefit of the doubt due to being a high character guy. Tiger woods situation is apples and oranges. People take DUI seriously because you’re putting other peoples lives in danger. You being involved in a gambling situation isn’t the same. First we need details of the ordeal. DUI is cut and dry. Folks lost lives behind drunk drivers. And it doesn’t have to involve athletes avg joe on avg joe tragedies. A mal carrier earlier this week was killed when a drunk driving leaving an accident sped away. He obliterated the mail truck and carrier. Who was a former marine. 58yrs gone because someone at 11am was drunk. So yeah why give Tiger or anyone grief for a DUI. And not Billups who probably (speculating without any facts) was used as a face behind a bigger scam. Haven’t had time to read the latest

[QUOTE=GOBB;15039069]Billups is getting the benefit of the doubt due to being a high character guy.[/QUOTE]

Oh damn, you know Chauncey? What else can you tell us about him?

[QUOTE=GOBB;15039069]What do you think was said about Malik Beasley? Honest opinion. In fact there’s a thread here made about it. Wasn’t no defending in there. Not many doubling back about judging him when charges were dropped. Yet he lost millions. So I’m not getting it.

Billups is getting the benefit of the doubt due to being a high character guy. Tiger woods situation is apples and oranges. People take DUI seriously because you’re putting other peoples lives in danger. You being involved in a gambling situation isn’t the same. First we need details of the ordeal. DUI is cut and dry. Folks lost lives behind drunk drivers. And it doesn’t have to involve athletes avg joe on avg joe tragedies. A mal carrier earlier this week was killed when a drunk driving leaving an accident sped away. He obliterated the mail truck and carrier. Who was a former marine. 58yrs gone because someone at 11am was drunk. So yeah why give Tiger or anyone grief for a DUI. And not Billups who probably (speculating without any facts) was used as a face behind a bigger scam.[/QUOTE]

I get it, but these underground organized crime scenarios involving celebrities can lead directly to OJ Simpson type of outcomes.

Nothing to just brush over IMO.

this is wild but the president manipulates the markets daily and cashes in on it big time.

[QUOTE=tpols;15039062]Theyre black! Innocent!

Free OJ!!!
[/QUOTE]


Thats exactly where I know Gobb has been gritting his teeth, ITCHING to go.

All this sports gambling shit and athletes rubbing elbows with mob figures is gonna lead directly to another OJ Simpson high profile kind of case.

You can book that.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15039069]What do you think was said about Malik Beasley? Honest opinion. In fact there’s a thread here made about it. Wasn’t no defending in there. Not many doubling back about judging him when charges were dropped. Yet he lost millions. So I’m not getting it. t[/QUOTE]


Charges being dropped doesnt mean he was innocent.

He was almost certainly not.

[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt;15039074]All this sports gambling shit and athletes rubbing elbows with mob figures is gonna lead directly to another OJ Simpson high profile kind of case.

You can book that.[/QUOTE]

OJ murdered his ex-wife and her lover. A mafia member killing a high profile athlete's family member will not be the same thing at all, lol.

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE;15039058]According to Windhorst:

The indictment also alleged that Billups, WHILE COACH of the Blazers, tipped off some gambler that Lillard, who was listed as probable for an upcoming game, would not actually play. Lillard was indeed downgraded to questionable LATER in the day and in fact did not play.


GOBB, your thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Damn, looks like he might have done some Pete Rose stuff.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15039009]Do you have a link to this?[/QUOTE]

[url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nba/article-15220795/NBA-betting-arrests-Mafia-rigged-poker.html[/url]

Brian Windhorst

[video=youtube;fwBIWjhKv_g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwBIWjhKv_g[/video]

[QUOTE=Yes or No;15039078]OJ murdered his ex-wife and her lover. A mafia member killing a high profile athlete's family member will not be the same thing at all, lol.[/QUOTE]

OJ was connected to a mob figure named Joey Ipollito. OJ was involved in all this same kind of underworld stuff. Gambling, drugs, prostitution, extortion, scams, etc.

The shit we all saw was a high level, multi layered, fix job, cover up.

[QUOTE=ralph_i_el;15039081][url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nba/article-15220795/NBA-betting-arrests-Mafia-rigged-poker.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Appreciate it

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I feel like the NBA has been hiding a shit ton of scandals in recent years.

Remember that one ref Eric Lewis who favored the Celtics during games in 2023? Fans started to get suspicious and he conveniently retired after the season was over.

Legend also says MJ’s dad was killed because of his degenerate gambling. Yup a victimless activity. lol.

A lot of good fix jobs when it comes to the “gambling mob world” scenarios.

Hard to believe what’s real when it comes to Rose, MJ, Donaghy, and everything now since gambling has been legalized.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15039091]I feel like the NBA has been hiding a shit ton of scandals in recent years.

Remember that one ref Eric Lewis who favored the Celtics during games in 2023? Fans started to get suspicious and he conveniently retired after the season was over.[/QUOTE]


Recent years?

Laughs in Tim Donaghy. :lol

Its always been corrupt. Me and a lot of others tried to tell yall and we're labeled "conspiracy theorists".

Pablo Torre: Sources tell @pablofindsout Malik Beasley’s fate also hinges on DOJ announcement. And that MB was previously investigated and cleared by the NBA for “making a bet or two on another sport.” Source: “The NBA is under strict confidentiality but you can’t control the government”

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Terry Rozier: Terry Rozier was never "cleared" by the federal government in this investigation, according to @pablofindsout 's reporting. Neither was Malik Beasley

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What did everyone expect? Sports betting being made legal meant this story and who knows how many more in future were inevitable.

Did people really think only scrub two way contract role players would be corrupted? This is money and this is America. It also doesnt help that there is a gambling commercial every 5 seconds everywhere you look.

They literally place free picks/parlays on podcasts.

It’s weird because I don’t know if that shit is even legal out here.

Seeing a million ads for something that is illegal is bizarre.

Can’t think of many scenarios that happens. Maybe liquor ads in dry counties?

[QUOTE=Norcaliblunt;15039101]It’s weird because I don’t know if that shit is even legal out here.

Seeing a million ads for something that is illegal is bizarre.

Can’t think of many scenarios that happens. Maybe liquor ads in dry counties?[/QUOTE]

It’s usually legal wherever they are promoting. So if the platform is in a state where it’s legal. You’ll see the ads and them pushing free picks etc.

[QUOTE=GOBB;15039103]It’s usually legal wherever they are promoting. So if the platform is in a state where it’s legal. You’ll see the ads and them pushing free picks etc.[/QUOTE]

I’ve been tripping on this. lol. That seems like how it should be.

I keep getting conflicting answers and I’m not interested in betting or researching it. lol.

I'm baffled by comments elsewhere like "they're NBA players, how much more money do they need?". Which is a gross misunderstanding of not just greed but the human condition. It's not about gaining $50k, it's about the fact that if you have inside information of a sure thing, in some people minds they're LOSING money if they don't put money on it. That Sopranos episode is an example where Tony bets on whoever to win that game but can only put down x dollars. He's annoyed with Carmela because he could have used the money he gave her to make the win even bigger. He won but still thought he'd lost.

It's just as dumb as when people say "why he cheat on her with that bitch? his wife is way hotter". Because of the juice and it's a free lay that you can't turn down.