Curry winning a chip before KD is a terrible narrative

[QUOTE=tontoz;15046752]Kyrie played 43 minutes in that game.:lol

Comparing 1st team All NBA Wade to Kyrie or Love just shows how lame your argument is. Aside from the fact that it is hypothetical nonsense Wade would be a much bigger loss to a team.

KD is 37 years old ffs. He's had plenty of time to prove himself without Curry. He clearly misses his bus driver.[/QUOTE]

Wade was 3rd team all-nba in 2012. Bosh did not make any all-nba in 2012. In 2015, Klay and Kyrie were both 3rd team all nba.

So...you're literally wrong again...:roll:

Also Kyrie was hobbled a little going into the 2015 finals. He was terrible in the Hawks series because of it. He didn't randomly break his knee in game 1 on the finals...he was already hurt a little going in and it backfired on him.

Face it, we know KD would've won in 2012 if he had the same injury luck Curry had in 2015, and frankly the entire NBA would be drastically different if that happened.

[QUOTE=tontoz;15046602][IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/61c9c379-dc9e-4342-8972-a3c17258e5a1/f4bc5238-05ba-457a-ac59-9d919480c0c3.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]

One still shot photo ftom 3 straight Finals runs doesn't really doesn't mean anything.

It's like Spurs retards saying they would've beat GS just because they had like a 15pt lead in the 2nd quarter of game 1 and then Kawhit got injured.

[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15046771]One still shot photo ftom 3 straight Finals runs doesn't really doesn't mean anything.

It's like Spurs retards saying they would've beat GS just because they had like a 15pt lead in the 2nd quarter of game 1 and then Kawhit got injured.[/QUOTE]

This screen shot isn’t some sort of an outlier, it was of the norm.

Cavs defensive gameplan was let the others and KD get theirs, but not gonna let Steph bury them

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;15046672]OP's also acting like it's 100% guaranteed the Cavs win if they're fully healthy in 2015, when while I'd assume most would say it's likely, it's not a certainty. [b]The facts are they literally lost the only game Kyrie played in that series[/b] then the Cavs had to squeak out a 7 game series the following year with Curry having the worst series of his career. I will agree the Cavs likely win if healthy in 2015, but it's not the guarantee OP is making it out to be.

The greatest irony of all this is, even if KD never joins the Warriors, and neither won a title in the 2010's, Curry would've STILL won a title before KD by winning in 2022 anyway :lol[/QUOTE]

Then Cleveland won the next 2gms. There's no argument to be made that losing game 1 meant Kyrie was somehow the reason or Cavs were better without him. I like their chances if Kyrie was available all series and especially if Love was also.

[QUOTE=warriorfan;15046773]This screen shot isn’t some sort of an outlier, it was of the norm.

Cavs defensive gameplan was let the others and KD get theirs, but not gonna let Steph bury them[/QUOTE]

Then show some more of these kind of still shots if it was the norm. No other teams decided to try this alleged defense throughout those 3 runs? Only the Cavs allegedly did thus throughout tfe series?

Where's the 5th man for GS in that pic? Cavs supposed to guard someone whose not even past half court?

[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15046518]We all know Curry only won in 2015 because Love and Kyrie were hurt.

KD in 2012, 3 years before Curry sniffed the finals, faced the 2012 Heat FULLY healthy.

If KD had Curry's luck, where Bosh and Wade were injured in the finals, then KD would have won in 2012 just like Curry.

The people saying Curry won a chip before KD got there are not thinking at all. We all saw Curry simply couldn't match Lebron in 2015/2016 and he/Draymond legit cried for KD to come join them...and then KD went on to win 2 FMVPs in a row on Curry's head.[/QUOTE]

What makes it a terrible narrative? How is this "terrible" narrative supposedly misleading? Does this conflict with the fact Curry led multiple teams to 67+ wins something KD never did (nor did LeBron for that matter) without Curry? Does it contradict the fact that when Curry and KD faced off in the playoffs Curry emerged victorious? Does it contradict the fact that Curry has won championships without KD while KD hasn't without Curry? Does it contradict Curry being able to win with young inexperienced teammates?

No not at all. Curry winning in 2015 fits and conforms to the overall picture. Curry is an incredible player who is capable of greatly increasing his team's winning chances under different circumstances.

What your story does confirm though is that there are people out there like yourself who will bend over backwards and invent arguments to try and diminish Curry's achievements.

Let's cut to the chase though. This isn't really about KD.

Curry > LeBron.

[QUOTE=StrongLurk;15046763]Wade was 3rd team all-nba in 2012. Bosh did not make any all-nba in 2012. In 2015, Klay and Kyrie were both 3rd team all nba.

So...you're literally wrong again...:roll:

Also Kyrie was hobbled a little going into the 2015 finals. He was terrible in the Hawks series because of it. He didn't randomly break his knee in game 1 on the finals...he was already hurt a little going in and it backfired on him.

Face it, we know KD would've won in 2012 if he had the same injury luck Curry had in 2015, and frankly the entire NBA would be drastically different if that happened.[/QUOTE]


Wade was first team All NBA in 2010 before LeBron joined him. Then he had to take a reduced role to play with LeBron who is ball dominant.

[QUOTE=tontoz;15046682]If the Warriors were healthy they would have won the championship in 2016 too but it doesn't matter because it is hypothetical. I don't need to rebut things that didn't actually happen.[/QUOTE]

You're banking on a healthy Bogut who was avg. like less than 15mins a game up to that point?

[QUOTE=tontoz;15046834]Wade was first team All NBA in 2010 before LeBron joined him. Then he had to take a reduced role to play with LeBron who is ball dominant.[/QUOTE]

Wade didn't take a reduced role until 2012. He was injured and then saw (as did Spo) how great the offense looked with James running the show so that's when it was decided that Wade would take a backseat and voila... B2B titles. Spo gets credit but it took a Wade injury for him to figure out that LeBron should've been running the show the whole time.

[QUOTE=Stephonit;15046831]What makes it a terrible narrative? How is this "terrible" narrative supposedly misleading? Does this conflict with the fact Curry led multiple teams to 67+ wins something KD never did (nor did LeBron for that matter) without Curry? Does it contradict the fact that when Curry and KD faced off in the playoffs Curry emerged victorious? Does it contradict the fact that Curry has won championships without KD while KD hasn't without Curry? Does it contradict Curry being able to win with young inexperienced teammates?

No not at all. Curry winning in 2015 fits and conforms to the overall picture. Curry is an incredible player who is capable of greatly increasing his team's winning chances under different circumstances.

What your story does confirm though is that there are people out there like yourself who will bend over backwards and invent arguments to try and diminish Curry's achievements.

Let's cut to the chase though. This isn't really about KD.

Curry > LeBron.[/QUOTE]

Feel free to read my posts in the thread if you want those questions succinctly answered.