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there r a few video clips made by someone called yinka dare contain almost every major fight in the nba for the past 20 years. go download those and check out the action, it is entertainment in its ultimate form. you will see some rare stuff like jordan slapping miller, dr J jabbing bird, instant classics like raged camby accidently landed a punch on his then coach van gandy; funny ones like shawn bradly got lifted by some guard and barkey jumping up to knock down a game mascot.
[QUOTE=Young HkM](wikipedia)
^^that stuff
Outside the NBA that stuff wouldn't be considered too bad, so i guess he's not a thug, but as far as the NBA goes, he is.[/QUOTE]
I think that AI has done some bad stuff in his life, but things that he does get blown way out of proportion.
When he was 17 and there was the fight in the bowling alley the only reason that he got in trouble was that he was a high profile black athelete.
There was a reason that the governor later pardoned him. Look it up.
if you're talkin on court and not in their personal lives, then i gotta go with bill lambeer as the biggest thug on the court... far more than, say... the lakers' older enforcer, Kurt "Rambo" Rambis... LOL
I think te biggest thug in the NBA today is Reggie Evans. Any man who grabs another man's TESTICLES during a game is a thug and a pervert!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFcinlrgojk&search=reggie%20evans[/url]
although i think that mahorn was a thug, laimbeer's role was to irritate and take people out of their games in other ways
although a rough player, once the opponant was riled up, laimbeer stepped back and was a dramatic innocent. he had this down to a science and knew exactly what he was doing
i am a big reggie evans fan, let me ponder his "thugness" a littl more
The new thug of the NBA is Esteban Batista. He is a walking flagrant foul, he basically ended Lue's season, in practice!:roll:
[QUOTE=JohnnyBravo5]The new thug of the NBA is Esteban Batista. He is a walking flagrant foul, he basically ended Lue's season, in practice!:roll:[/QUOTE]
How did I know Bravo was gonna find a way to work Lue's name in (a thread about thugs no less).
You are one loyal muthafalka
[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]How did I know Bravo was gonna find a way to work Lue's name in (a thread about thugs no less).
You are one loyal muthafalka[/QUOTE]
It had nothing to do with Lue jackazz...just relating a story about Esteban.
[QUOTE=JohnnyBravo5]It had nothing to do with Lue jackazz...just relating a story about Esteban.[/QUOTE]
You brought his name up again!!!:banana:
You must get like a bonus everytime you can get his name up on this message board.
[QUOTE=RainierBeachPoet]my original intent was to limit it to on court behavior
thug=a person whose primary role is to be physical and do "enforcement" duties for his team
to me, a thug is different from a dirty player (eg laimbeer); or an out of control action (artest in the stands); of any off court behavior (iverson); or any one time punch (k. washington)
i am a lifetime sonic fan-- danny fortson's main role was to enforce and play physical
but if i am to give a vote for a current player-- potapenko comes to mind
other all timers are maurice lucas, clifford ray, and wes unseld
oakley is a good pick too[/QUOTE]
But that was Kermit's role before he one timed Rudy. He was sent out to instigate contact on the star players of every team to throw thier games off. He was one scary dude.
AI is a thug, he is hard to the core. Rasheed wallace is a thug, he will pop you in the face and then laugh at you when/if you retaliate. Oakley is a thug. Rodman too, and Artest
of all time, that dude that broke rudy t's face. he hit him so hard, his face literally shattered, now that is a thug.
hahha I love that Kenyon picture.
[SIZE=7][U][B]david[/B][/U] fu(king [B][U]stern[/U][/B] is the biggest thug in the nba[/SIZE]
[QUOTE=KingofVaginville]Iverson isn't a thug in any way shape or form. He's just a wannabe!
Someone like Kenyon Martin or Bill Laimbeer will qualify as one.
[IMG]http://www.nba.com/media/paul_180_051130.jpg[/IMG]
Now, that's what thuggish bullies do. Giving a fellow player a wedgie![/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=RainierBeachPoet][SIZE=7][U][B]david[/B][/U] fu(king [B][U]stern[/U][/B] is the biggest thug in the nba[/SIZE][/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/07/24/sports/basketball/24nba-600.jpg[/IMG]
David Stern / Kurt Rambis
Isaiah Rider should be in contention for biggest thug.
Robert Horry/Bruce Bowen
dennis rodman
and no mentions of rasheed?? lol that guy is a crazy thug:banana:
Former Boston Celtic of the late 50s and early 60s, Jim Loskotoff was on the roster strictly to be a thug on the court similar to the goon of hockey teams past. if a player got hot Auerbach in one of his psychological ploys would tell Loskotoff to go out and mug the player, he was a 6ft 5 gorila that looked the part, I mean he put the ugggg in ugly. He looked like that ruff neck thug in the Godfather 1, Luca Brazi, the Don's number one strong man.
I never saw it but I've heard old-timers say in Wilt's rookie year he was destroying Russell so Red sent in Loskotoff to ruff Wilt up a bit and after a hard foul Wilt picked him up by the chest with one hand and told him never to do that again, and he never did.
One of the most hard nose players who would never back down and who would have players bigger and heavier than him bounce off him like a rubber ball against a handball court wall was Paul Silas, what a rebounder, he was the key to the Walton led Trailbalzer's glory years, when Bill gets on a roll he will talk marvels about him. Paul also served as Lebron's father in the beginning.
One of the toughest guards built like a fireplug was no-nonsense Al Attles who was with both the Philly and SF Warriors before become a coach for the Golden State edition
The big money made by the players today have eased tensions between them, there's too much lovey-dovey going on before games among opposing players, they are too soft in attitude. The Lakers and the Knicks or Celtics or other rivals never fratenized in the past, there was genuine dislike, now both teams have dinner and party together before and after games.
[QUOTE=Detroit]dennis rodman
and no mentions of rasheed?? lol that guy is a crazy thug:banana:[/QUOTE]
Nah, those guys are just crazy.
Primo "The hitman" Brezec:
Why?
Many dont know this, but primo is a for hire assasin, and a contractible hit man. Playing basketball as a cover up in europe, Primo worked for the Russian Mafia carrying out needed hits within game areas. On the side he ran an illegal gambling and prostitution ring. Donnie Walsh with ties to the Russian Mafia and black market, contacted primo on several occasions for interests outside of basketball. Primo was eventually brought into the crime family known as the Indianapolis Pacers,where he sat on the bench and conducted security and other illegal activities, like physical and verbal threatening of refs players and fans. (This is in fact how the pacers got to the ECF so many years.) Primo eventually found Christ Jesus and resigned from his life of crime in lue of better, freer life. Requesting a trade, Primo was surprisingly picked up by the Charlotte bobcats in an expansion draft. We all know the story from there.
Beat that Mr.Walters.
[IMG]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x292/SSnitch123/MeloAI.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Myth]Isaiah Rider should be in contention for biggest thug.[/QUOTE]
agreed. he was next level lol
[QUOTE=DinoRadja40]Primo "The hitman" Brezec:
Why?
Many dont know this, but primo is a for hire assasin, and a contractible hit man. Playing basketball as a cover up in europe, Primo worked for the Russian Mafia carrying out needed hits within game areas. On the side he ran an illegal gambling and prostitution ring. Donnie Walsh with ties to the Russian Mafia and black market, contacted primo on several occasions for interests outside of basketball. Primo was eventually brought into the crime family known as the Indianapolis Pacers,where he sat on the bench and conducted security and other illegal activities, like physical and verbal threatening of refs players and fans. (This is in fact how the pacers got to the ECF so many years.) Primo eventually found Christ Jesus and resigned from his life of crime in lue of better, freer life. Requesting a trade, Primo was surprisingly picked up by the Charlotte bobcats in an expansion draft. We all know the story from there.
Beat that Mr.Walters.[/QUOTE]
that's a BIG load of balony
[quote=Lax4422Chik1342]Former Boston Celtic of the late 50s and early 60s, Jim Loskotoff was on the roster strictly to be a thug on the court similar to the goon of hockey teams past. if a player got hot Auerbach in one of his psychological ploys would tell Loskotoff to go out and mug the player, he was a 6ft 5 gorila that looked the part, I mean he put the ugggg in ugly. He looked like that ruff neck thug in the Godfather 1, Luca Brazi, the Don's number one strong man.
I never saw it but I've heard old-timers say in Wilt's rookie year he was destroying Russell so Red sent in Loskotoff to ruff Wilt up a bit and after a hard foul Wilt picked him up by the chest with one hand and told him never to do that again, and he never did.
One of the most hard nose players who would never back down and who would have players bigger and heavier than him bounce off him like a rubber ball against a handball court wall was [B]Paul Silas[/B], what a rebounder, he was the key to the Walton led Trailbalzer's glory years, when Bill gets on a roll he will talk marvels about him. Paul also served as Lebron's father in the beginning.
One of the toughest guards built like a fireplug was no-nonsense Al Attles who was with both the Philly and SF Warriors before become a coach for the Golden State edition
The big money made by the players today have eased tensions between them, there's too much lovey-dovey going on before games among opposing players, they are too soft in attitude. The Lakers and the Knicks or Celtics or other rivals never fratenized in the past, there was genuine dislike, now both teams have dinner and party together before and after games.[/quote]
i loved pauls silas-- we called him "chairman of the boards" and he was a main reason the sonics won it all in 79
walton's enforcer was maurice lucas
but every team had a guy like that-- to protect the stars and to be enforcers on the court
[QUOTE]that's a BIG load of balony[/QUOTE]
True, but my brother-in-law and i made it up at a playoff game along time ago when we seen Primo looking sad on the bench in a mafia suit.
aint know real thugs in the League...Maybe Steven Jackson ..he is still a member of the BLOODS.........Iverson aint know thug,he just portrays a certain image,I got tatoos,had Cornrows and Dreads,does that make me a thug two???
[QUOTE=RainierBeachPoet]i loved pauls silas-- we called him "chairman of the boards" and he was a main reason the sonics won it all in 79
walton's enforcer was maurice lucas
but every team had a guy like that-- to protect the stars and to be enforcers on the court[/QUOTE]
Sho yo right, my bad....I goofed on the Walton end of the post, Mo Lucas was the enforcer, similar player to Silas. Just like the Big Red, I toked too many Panama Reds in the 70s, it has taken its toil.
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If "Downtown" Freddie Brown would've played against the Lakers or as he did against the Lakers in all of his other matches he would be in the Hall of Fame and a Top 100 NBA player. He was the number one Laker killer throughout the 70s, I dispised him for beating us so much
Don't forget how well my El Lay homie Dee Jay Johnson played in the rematch series against the Unseld, Chenier(what a shooter), Big E Hayes, Dandridge etc led Bullets that they lost to the year before in part die to Dennis' poor play. The Baltimore team had a forward by the name of Mitch Kupka. The Sonics were indeeed super, Jack Sikma, Gus Williams and Lonnie Sheldon are some of the names I recollect
Now: Stephen Jackson?? I'm not sure...nobody is very bad ass anymore.
All-Time: Charles Oakley
[QUOTE=ShowtymeCA2NC]aint know real thugs in the League...Maybe Steven Jackson ..he is still a member of the BLOODS.........Iverson aint know thug,he just portrays a certain image,I got tatoos,had Cornrows and Dreads,does that make me a thug two???[/QUOTE]
ai dont portray nothin dude is just being himself, what you see is the real deal. he never called himself a thug, other people label him one. a cat like ai will never front or act like he's somethin he's not because he has lived a certain lifestyle. i've been around ai a few times and he is a real dude.
Alex: This NBA team has the largest collection of thugs ever assembled in one location, and even has a nickname which accurately portrays this amusing fact.
Yes, Optimus?
Optimus: Who are the Denver Thuggets?
Alex: Correct. They are also known as the Denver Nuggets.
Optimus: YESSSSS!
Yeah, I don
[QUOTE=omarnyc]ai dont portray nothin dude is just being himself, what you see is the real deal. he never called himself a thug, other people label him one. a cat like ai will never front or act like he's somethin he's not because he has lived a certain lifestyle. i've been around ai a few times and he is a real dude.[/QUOTE]
but he aint a thug,,thas all im sayin blood..he aint a thug,there isnt any in the NBA..dudes in the nba might know sum thugs but ....thats about it...yall wanna see some real thugs..come to Oakland..
Now: S.Jax? Although he has toned things down significantly since coming to Golden State.
I wonder if Davis' departure will make a jigga wanna shoot somebody.
[QUOTE=DinoRadja40]Primo "The hitman" Brezec:
Why?
Many dont know this, but primo is a for hire assasin, and a contractible hit man. Playing basketball as a cover up in europe, Primo worked for the Russian Mafia carrying out needed hits within game areas. On the side he ran an illegal gambling and prostitution ring. Donnie Walsh with ties to the Russian Mafia and black market, contacted primo on several occasions for interests outside of basketball. Primo was eventually brought into the crime family known as the Indianapolis Pacers,where he sat on the bench and conducted security and other illegal activities, like physical and verbal threatening of refs players and fans. (This is in fact how the pacers got to the ECF so many years.) Primo eventually found Christ Jesus and resigned from his life of crime in lue of better, freer life. Requesting a trade, Primo was surprisingly picked up by the Charlotte bobcats in an expansion draft. We all know the story from there.
Beat that Mr.Walters.[/QUOTE]:lol I was wonder why he jumps after every loosball like he
Some how I see Charles Oakley being in prison if he never made it to the NBA. I can just see him roaming a prison yard looking for someone to shank.
[QUOTE=ShowtymeCA2NC]but he aint a thug,,thas all im sayin blood..he aint a thug,there isnt any in the NBA..dudes in the nba might know sum thugs but ....thats about it...yall wanna see some real thugs..come to Oakland..[/QUOTE]
yeah i agree he aint no thug, the media put that tag on him because he a real dude who refused to kiss ass or turn his back on the only cats that held him down when he aint have nothin. he's a hood cat but that dont make him a thug. i aint got no doubt yall got thugs in oakland, every hood do, im from brooklyn so i've seen my share.
Stephen Jackson was the captain and the leader of that Warriora team. That is all I have to say about that.
[QUOTE=omarnyc]yeah i agree he aint no thug, the media put that tag on him because he a real dude who refused to kiss ass or turn his back on the only cats that held him down when he aint have nothin. he's a hood cat but that dont make him a thug. i aint got no doubt yall got thugs in oakland, every hood do, im from brooklyn so i've seen my share.[/QUOTE]
Oh yea,i got some peoples from BK..yea,i KNOW you done seen ya fair share blood,but you right,its all about tha damn media that see a black male,wit tats and cornrows and say he is a thug,it aint right,but its life..see ,i can fux wit you,cuz u dont talk outta ya ass,like most lames on ISH..stay up tho Omar,im out