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[QUOTE=Lebron23]Nexts Timberwolves franchise player. I hope he take this team into the NBA Finals so he would probably surpass Kevin Garnett as the best player to ever wear the Wolves Jersey.
F*ck Kevin Garnett
[B]Beasley is the real deal [/B][/QUOTE]
So...a 'tweener forward is somehow going to be a better player than a guy that won an MVP award? Beasley has potential, could be a great player, but this is idiotic. Beasley won't even be better than Al Jefferson next year.
[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]So...a 'tweener forward is somehow going to be a better player than a guy that won an MVP award? Beasley has potential, could be a great player, but this is idiotic. Beasley won't even be better than Al Jefferson next year.[/QUOTE]
Jefferson is not even a franchise player he is just like the PF/C version of Ricky Davis ( Cavs Circa 2002-03 NBA Season). He is getting some nice stats because he is playing with a lottery team that has no chance to make it in the playoffs this year.
Beasley would be putting up better numbers than Al Jefferson nexts season, and he is certainly on the verge to become one of the bests SF of all time.
Beasley = No.1 scoring Option
Jefferson= Sidekick
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Jefferson is not even a franchise player he is just like the PF/C version of Ricky Davis ( Cavs Circa 2002-03 NBA Season). He is getting some nice stats because he is playing with a lottery team that has no chance to make it in the playoffs this year. [/quote]
You don't get 20 points and 12 rebounds per game by accident. You act like he's just chucking his way to stats when he's shooting 49% and only averages 2 turnovers. This is just ignorant. Kevin Garnett lead Minnie to the lottery for the last two years, and now Al Jefferson, at the age of 23, is supposed to do better with even less veterans?
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Beasley would be putting up better numbers than Al Jefferson nexts season, and he is certainly on the verge to become one of the bests SF of all time.[/QUOTE]
How's Kevin Durant doing right now? Scoring average, rebounding average, FG percentage, all have dropped significantly. This is how it works: Statistics drop between college and the NBA because the NBA is tougher than college. And when's the last time a 19 year-old basketball player did better than 20 and 12? You'd have to go back to Magic. Beasley may become better than Jefferson in the far future but he won't be next season.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Beasley = No.1 scoring Option[/QUOTE]
Sure...in college.
[QUOTE=FOYE4MVP]he'll probably play SF here. beasly is a beast. nuff said.
im comparing him with glen robinson.[/QUOTE]
Yeah don't compare him to Melo, compare him to Gelnn..... Melo = Glenn fyi...
[QUOTE=loot]Yeah don't compare him to Melo, compare him to Gelnn..... Melo = Glenn fyi...[/QUOTE]
This comparison should be dead. Anthony is a far better ballhandler, doesn't shoot from distance nearly as well, and is in better shape.
I have only seen the two videos posted in the Bealsey/Mayo/Rose thread, haven't seen him play in College yet. From watching those, he reminds me of Charlie Villanueva who is a SF-PF, so that's my guess on his position. I would have to see him more to really evaluate his game, maybe come up with a different comparison.
Something that I'm starting to notice a bit with Beasley is that his footwork isn't great and is actually hindering his athleticism.
In controlled situations (lay-up lines, dunk contest, etc.) he's a phenominal athlete. Yet when you watch him in games that athleticism is not obvious.
I wanna see him and Blake Griffin square off. Jan 12th and Jan 19t vs Texas A & M. Xaiver shut that ass down.
Beasley reminds me of LaPhonso Ellis, a bit of a tweener but can play both positions effectively. Not as athletic as LaPhonso though.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Beasley would be putting up better numbers than Al Jefferson nexts season, and he is certainly on the verge to become one of the bests SF of all time.[/QUOTE]
One of the most idiotic posts I've ever seen.
Beasley isn't even that skilled at this point. He's proving that he can score in college level but who in the NBA hasn't?
[QUOTE=loot]Yeah don't compare him to Melo, compare him to Gelnn..... Melo = Glenn fyi...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'd say a more athletic Glenn Robinson. (But he isn't the college player the Big Dog was)
With equally questionable attitude as the Big Dog too.
Though I have NO idea, and could be completely wrong; if I had a gun to my head, I'd say he ain't gonna ever win s***.
Project him at his peak at 24 and 10 however.
He was measured at 6-10 in his shoes with a 7'0.5 wing span last summer, and I personally think that he could be an effective SF in the NBA if the Heat/Wolves/Grizzlies would drafted him as the first overall pick in the 2008 NBA Draft.
He is currently having one of the best individual season in the NCAA Tournament, and their is no doubt in my mind that he is indeed the no.1 prospect in the NBA Draft because he already have an NBA Body, and skills to become a dominant player in the League.
Beasley is leading the NCAA Tournament in Double Double Production, and he is one of the best rebounding College Freshmen in the last 5 years.
If you average double doubles in college, it means you're ready for the NBA unless his coaching staff will not give him minutes in his rookie season, and he ends up being the next Kurt Thomas instead of being a better version of Glenn Robinson, and Derrick Coleman.
He is already a much better defensive player than Kevin Durant, and he is not a ballhog compared to the former 2nd overall pick in the 2006 NBA Draft.
Beasley is also a much stronger athlete than Durant, and i can see him toe to toe againts some of the best big men in the NBA today because he was gifted with a longer wingspan, and He also have a very decent vertical leap for a guy that is listed at 6-10.
I expect him to become an NBA ALL STAR in the 2010-2011 Season, and possibly the franchise player of the lottery team that would draft him in June.
[B]2007-08 NCAA STATS[/B]
[B]26.9[/B] PPG, [B]12.6 [/B]RPG,[B] 1.2[/B] APG, [B]1.3 [/B]SPG, [B]1.7[/B] BPG
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=36671[/url]
[QUOTE=Lebron23]He was measured at 6-10 in his shoes with a 7'0.5 wing span last summer, and I personally think that he could be an effective SF in the NBA if the Heat/Wolves/Grizzlies would drafted him as the first overall pick in the 2008 NBA Draft.
He is currently having one of the best individual season in the NCAA Tournament, and their is no doubt in my mind that he is indeed the no.1 prospect in the NBA Draft because he already have an NBA Body, and skills to become a dominant player in the League.
Beasley is leading the NCAA Tournament in Double Double Production, and he is one of the best rebounding College Freshmen in the last 5 years.
If you average double doubles in college, it means you're ready for the NBA unless his coaching staff will not give him minutes in his rookie season, and he ends up being the next Kurt Thomas instead of being a better version of Glenn Robinson, and Derrick Coleman.
He is already a much better defensive player than Kevin Durant, and he is not a ballhog compared to the former 2nd overall pick in the 2006 NBA Draft.
Beasley is also a much stronger athlete than Durant, and i can see him toe to toe againts some of the best big men in the NBA today because he was gifted with a longer wingspan, and He also have a very decent vertical leap for a guy that is listed at 6-10.
I expect him to become an NBA ALL STAR in the 2010-2011 Season, and possibly the franchise player of the lottery team that would draft him in June.
[B]2007-08 NCAA STATS[/B]
[B]26.9[/B] PPG, [B]12.6 [/B]RPG,[B] 1.2[/B] APG, [B]1.3 [/B]SPG, [B]1.7[/B] BPG
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=36671[/url][/QUOTE]
He will have his struggles like Durant but he will also probably average 18-20 ppg and 5-6 boards his rookie season. I thought he measured just 6-9 in shoes with only a 7-0 wingspan though. Durant has a 7-5 wingspan.
Beasley has all the ability you can want in a player at his age. I like the Marion comparison better, but Beasley is a more talented scorer. I think if you took Marion's career stats of 18ppg/10rpg/2spg/1bpg/51%/34%3 and add 4 or 5 more points then you have Beasley's numbers if he reaches his potential. I know watching him right now may not make you a believer, but you are talking about a guy who is 5 years away from his prime.
The biggest question I have about Beasley is if he will take the game seriously enough and listen to coaches to ever reach his potential. Just using his natural ability, this guy is a 16 and 8 player right away. I think despite his lack of maturity, this guy isn't actually a huge risk on the court. He does not seem like a bad kid at all, and I don't think will be a Ron Artest type of distraction, but with millions of dollars and all of his friends around I think he may be more interested in other things besides becoming the best player he can be.
If Beasly stayed near the wing in his NBA season it would ruin his game, hes more the kind of guy near the basket
I watched his games at U-19 championship in Serbia and coach pushed him too near to the basket. I mean that he could beat every player on championship with his athletecism, but he wasn't using it well, cuz he wasn't trying his best...
Like every other player, you are more likely to make shots the closer you are to the basket. If he plays inside Beasley would be much more effecient. However, teams would also be able to stop him with defensive matchups because they what he is going to do. Having an outside shot already makes him that much more ungaurdable.
Having something beyond your stregth is what makes a good player great. For example, Shaq could have still dominated inside, but his passing ability made him that much more dominate because you couldn't just triple-team him and force him into a bad shot because he would find an open man. Shooting the 3 is the best way to make a good forward that much better.
He reminds me of Antawn jamison for some reason.. Carmelo is faster than Beasly thats why
[QUOTE=VCMVP1551]He will have his struggles like Durant but he will also probably average 18-20 ppg and 5-6 boards his rookie season. I thought he measured just 6-9 in shoes with only a 7-0 wingspan though. Durant has a 7-5 wingspan.[/QUOTE]
7-5 fu*king wingspan??? Im almost tall 7'1 and i have wingspan around 6-9!!
LOL
I think Antonie Walker (in his prime on the celtics) is a good comparison. They both handle the ball well, have range on their shots, rebound well, and have good inside moves.
If he is a legit 6`9, 230, he will see a lot of time at PF. I`m just sayin. He looks a little slow to defend some of the quicker SFs in the NBA.
I would call him a tweener, but I think he is actually more of a combo-forward. He will play both forward spots depending on matchups. He is big enough to play PF, but against slower SF he will do fine as well. He will take SF inside and PF outside. That outside shot changes everything with him. If he couldn't make that shot, he is a tweener that is right there with Bill Walker as a prospect. With that shot, he is the #1 pick in the draft.
[QUOTE=Make It Rain]Actually, he reminds me a lot of Al Thornton. He DOES play a lot like Melo except less athletic.[/QUOTE]
You do mean that Melo is less athletic than Beasley right? Because with all of Melo's skills, he isn't a high jumper like Lebron, Kobe, or Carter. Beasley could be the most athletic in this draft. He reminds me alot of a young Antoine Walker back in his days with Boston or Lamar Odom without the passing skills. If he lands on a team like Miami, his numbers won't be eye-popping since he'll be rebounding with Marion and scoring with Wade, so numbers like 12 and 6 wouldn't be far fetched. If he lands on a team like Minnesota who don't have much scoring and rebounding options besides Jefferson, he could easily be a 18 and 9 game in the league.
[QUOTE=BayAreaSportz]Because with all of Melo's skills, he isn't a high jumper like Lebron, Kobe, or Carter. [/QUOTE]
Actually hes a pretty good dunker..... i remember him winning a dunk contest..
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=pC5nl2IMDbA[/url] - hes pretty good
[QUOTE=A.M.G.]If he is a legit 6`9, 230, he will see a lot of time at PF. I`m just sayin. He looks a little slow to defend some of the quicker SFs in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
Beasley measured 6'8" last summer and his post game will be more effective against SF IMO. He was only 18 so he could end up closer to 6'9" or 6'10" though.
6ft 9in does not quailfiy as being too small for a powerforward. A lot of Mikes points were around the basket this year. I'm willing to say he could end up being a charles barkley type player only a little taller without as much ferocity. I'm saying a powerforward first /small forward depending on which team drafts him.
i expect him to be a mix of Antawn Jamison and Glenn Robinson in their primes.
i believe he'l develop a decent nba range 3 shot and will score upwards of 22 a game
his rebounding will be solid at maybe 6-7 a game
i think he can def be a dominate player on the nba level he will at least fill up stat sheets i dont think hel ever be a face of the league type player tho, he'l be extremely good for a long time tho
i think if he gets paired with another star they can win a ship. he'l prolly need a dominate point to pair with him
[QUOTE=FOYE4MVP]he'll probably play SF here. beasly is a beast. nuff said.
im comparing him with glen robinson.[/QUOTE]
i think even beasley himself would be hurt by that comparison seeing as robinson was not athletic, could not block shots like Beasley, could not shoot 3s like beasley.I think if robinson 7 years ago went up against beasley NOW beasley would crush him
[QUOTE=bballog]i think even beasley himself would be hurt by that comparison seeing as robinson was not athletic, could not block shots like Beasley, could not shoot 3s like beasley.I think if robinson 7 years ago went up against beasley NOW beasley would crush him[/QUOTE]
kevin durant was also a shot blocker in college, more tahn Oden, dont knw the stats but its safe to say hes not swattin much of anything
[QUOTE=almightydavidbc]kevin durant was also a shot blocker in college, more tahn Oden, dont knw the stats but its safe to say hes not swattin much of anything[/QUOTE]
Durant is actually blocking more than 1 shot per game I thiink. Perimeter players can block shots in the NBA it's rare but it happens. Obviously Michael jordan averaged 1.6 bpg one season and Vince Carter blocked 1.5 per game his rookie year but even more surprising is that T-Mac blocked 1.9 shots per game 1 year.
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Beasley remind me of a younger Version of the " BIG DOGG" Glenn Robinson. People forget how good Robinson was during his prime, and he is one of my favorite player in the 1990's especially, when he is playing for the Milwaukee Bucks even leading his team in the Eastern Conference back in 2001.
I think Beasley would become an upgraded version of Glenn Robinson, and i predict he is going to become one of the best all around player in the NBA.
[B]Prime Robinson Highlights[/B]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VQeYKn53w[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBl-nPmkHhU&feature=related[/url]
[B]College Stats[/B]: [B]27.5 [/B]ppg, [B]10.1[/B] rpg, [B]1.9[/B] apg, [B]1.05 [/B]bpg, [B]1.75[/B] spg
[B] NBA Career Stats: [/B] [B]20.7 [/B]ppg, [B]6.1[/B] rpg, [B]2.7 [/B]apg, [B]1.20 [/B]spg, [B]0.30 [/B]bpg
[QUOTE=almightydavidbc]kevin durant was also a shot blocker in college, more tahn Oden, dont knw the stats but its safe to say hes not swattin much of anything[/QUOTE]
Kevin Durant blocked more shoots than any other Guard in the NBA this season.
[QUOTE=almightydavidbc]kevin durant was also a shot blocker in college, more tahn Oden, dont knw the stats but its safe to say hes not swattin much of anything[/QUOTE]
You know who else isn't blocking much of anything? GREG ODEN.
[QUOTE=gsrenagade]6ft 9in does not quailfiy as being too small for a powerforward. [/QUOTE]
Beasley himself even said he's not a real power forward.
[QUOTE][B]InsideHoops.com:[/B] What do you think your ideal position is in the NBA? Should we call you a small forward who is big enough to play power forward?
[B]Michael Beasley:[/B] Yeah, I like that. Because I didn't measure at what I want to measure at.
[B]InsideHoops.com:[/B] What did you measure at?
[B]Michael Beasley:[/B] 6-8.
[B]InsideHoops.com:[/B] Ah, 6-8, right on the nose?
[B]Michael Beasley:[/B] 6-8 and a half.[/QUOTE]
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