C. Paul: "He can't guard me!"

[QUOTE=Showtime]All you do is blame Avery and put nothing on the players. Tell me: if Avery is the problem, then why did the mavs have such a great first half? Did Avery suddenly tell Dirk and Kidd to suck ass in the second half? If Dirk is going to get credit for his first half play, then he should damn well get blame for him sucking too.[/QUOTE]

Fabs liked the pre-Avery Mavs when Nellie coached them.They scored alot but were a lock to get bounced every year in the second round because they played no d:oldlol:

[QUOTE=Showtime]All you do is blame Avery and put nothing on the players. Tell me: if Avery is the problem, then why did the mavs have such a great first half? Did Avery suddenly tell Dirk and Kidd to suck ass in the second half? If Dirk is going to get credit for his first half play, then he should damn well get blame for him sucking too.[/QUOTE]

Dirk had 30 points.. that's great by any standard.. especially with aveyr as coach.

And I think Avery did tell them to suck in the second half. In the first half I think avery was forced to coahc right because he was desperate.. then at the half becaue the Mavs were in control he let off the gas and tried to have the amvs play halfcourt. aveyr also sucks adjusting to teams defesnively. He just has no talent and has no idea what he is doing or what he should do.

I think with coaching it's either you have it or you don't.. and Avery clearly doesn't. On top of being talentless he has no experience.. and he has an ego and is incredibly stubborn on top of it In other words.. he THINKS he can coach.. when he ca't.. which is ten times worse than just being a bad coach in itself..

[QUOTE=Diesel J]Fabs liked the pre-Avery Mavs when Nellie coached them.They scored alot but were a lock to get bounced every year in the second round because they played no d:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

That's a heck of a lot better than with Avery.. Avery plays no D.. no O and he's lucky to even make the playoffs..

The only reason Avery had any success was because the system Nellie put in place.. as that eroded so did Avery's success.

According to S.A.S. after burning Kidd on another basket, Paul was beating his chest and kept yelling out "He can't guard me!". Is this disrespectful to a future hall of famer, or just the passing of the guards from the big older point guard to the super-quick swagged out baby-faced gangster. It was kind of sad watching Kidd tryna chase down Paul the entire game, and if Game 1 was any indication, Kidd is gonna be made looked really bad the rest of the series.

Hell no it's not disrespectful. I'm ALL for trash talking.

If Kobe did it, therre would be a 5 page thread on how cocky and disrespectful it was. :lol

Anyway, I thought it was pretty cool. I like to see intensity and swagger on the court. I'd probably do the same if I was burning a top 5-10 PG of all-time in my first playoff game.

Well, in Kidd's defense, if it was prime Kidd, there would be no problem in this series.

A problem with these young players is they never played with any prime legends so they really start to think of themselves as unstoppable. Ah, if only prime GP, JS, JK and JD were still playing. It'd be amazing.

Well, if he can't guard you, he can't guard you...

:confusedshrug:

Nobody really can guard CP3, though.

its not trash talking, hes just pointing out facts.

trash talk on the court = bueno
trash talk off the court = no bueno.

and the first game of the series is all about intimidation. that was the word of the weekend. everyone was trying to intimidate the other team.

I think the funniest thing about CP3 is the face he makes when he is getting outplayed. He looks like a scared puppy. And when they play Utah next series Deron will have him looking like that again. But unlike CP3, Deron wont be yelling at CP3 and cursing every play, he will lead like a leader is supposed to.

[QUOTE=gencbiba][B]Well, in Kidd's defense, if it was prime Kidd, there would be no problem in this series. [/B]A problem with these young players is they never played with any prime legends so they really start to think of themselves as unstoppable. Ah, if only prime GP, JS, and JD were still playing. It'd be amazing.[/QUOTE]


Uh, yes there would be a problem for Kidd in this series.

CP3 currently is a better player than Kidd ever was in his prime.

Another extra motivation for the Mavs :rockon:

[QUOTE=Younggrease]I think the funniest thing about CP3 is the face he makes when he is getting outplayed. He looks like a scared puppy. And when they play Utah next series Deron will have him looking like that again. But unlike CP3, Deron wont be yelling at CP3 and cursing every play, he will lead like a leader is supposed to.[/QUOTE]
hes gotten outplayed? when????????

[QUOTE=gencbiba]Well, in Kidd's defense, if it was prime Kidd, there would be no problem in this series. [/quote]

.Kidd could never guard quick Pg's like CP3 and his 1 on 1 d was always over hyped.Afterall,we all saw Anthony Johnson abuse Kidd like it was nothing:oldlol:

[quote=BIZARRO]Uh, yes there would be a problem for Kidd in this series.

[B]CP3 currently is a better player than Kidd ever was in his prime.[/B][/quote]

I think it is too early to say that, but its just my opinion.



:pimp:

[QUOTE=Younggrease]I think the funniest thing about CP3 is the face he makes when he is getting outplayed. He looks like a scared puppy. [/QUOTE]

sort of like the ones Kobe makes when lebron is abusing and locking him up?:oldlol:

[QUOTE=iggy>]hes gotten outplayed? when????????[/QUOTE]
Every time he plays Deron.

Kidd was a good defender in his prime. He still is decent for his age but hes playing the best pg in basketball today. Kidd would be able to stay in front of him w/ more consistency in his prime. Those who say he wouldnt havnt seen him play. He had one of the quickest feet in the L back in the day. I feel bad for him. Kidd is one of my fav players and its sad to see him getting abused as bad as he did game one

[QUOTE=gencbiba]
A problem with these young players is they never played with any prime legends so they really start to think of themselves as unstoppable. Ah, if only prime GP, JS, and JD were still playing. It'd be amazing.[/QUOTE]
That's not true. Every player in the league has played against Nash in his prime. CP3 himself is a legend in his prime - one of the best pg's ever - and every pg in the league plays against him. So there you go.

[QUOTE=ihatetimthomas]Kidd was a good defender in his prime. He still is decent for his age but hes playing the best pg in basketball today. Kidd would be able to stay in front of him w/ more consistency in his prime. [/QUOTE]

No he couldn't.Kidd could never guard quick Pg's.Kidd is great at team defense and guarding slower SG's though.

That's not disrespectful, that's talking trash. If no one could talk trash on the court and get themselves hyped up, this game would be pretty boring to play and watch. Plus, he [I]can't[/I] guard him. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=adamcz]That's not true. Every player in the league has played against Nash in his prime. CP3 himself is a legend in his prime - one of the best pg's ever - and every pg in the league plays against him. So there you go.[/QUOTE]

I meant above average defensively PGs. It's all speculation now, but I wonder how a Gary Payton and Chris Paul matchup would look.

[QUOTE=gencbiba]Well, in Kidd's defense, if it was prime Kidd, there would be no problem in this series.

A problem with these young players is they never played with any prime legends so they really start to think of themselves as unstoppable. Ah, if only prime GP, JS, and JD were still playing. It'd be amazing.[/QUOTE]

Who is JD?

[QUOTE=gencbiba]I meant above average defensively PGs. It's all speculation now, but I wonder how a Gary Payton and Chris Paul matchup would look.[/QUOTE]

GP would shut him down.

[QUOTE=guy]Who is JD?[/QUOTE]
Joe Dumars

[QUOTE=guy]Who is JD?[/QUOTE]

Ah, I meant JK. It's probably because Kidd's head looks like it would be of somebody named J.D.

[QUOTE=High Potential]Joe Dumars[/QUOTE]

That's actually pretty good too. I forgot to add JD.

I saw a similar thing way back when Isiah thomas was at the end of his career. A young Kenny Anderson just abused him, going by him. He wasn
t trash talking, but it was sad to watch Isiah getting outquicked. Such is the deal with getting older, it happens to everyone.

[QUOTE=iggy>]hes gotten outplayed? when????????[/QUOTE]

You watched any Jazz/Hornets games in the past 3 years?

[QUOTE=SoCalMike]I think it is too early to say that, but its just my opinion.



:pimp:[/QUOTE]


May be too early for you, but not for me.

CP3 is playing at a level Kidd never sniffed.


I mean, man, I haven't seen a point guard play at his current level since the Magic man.

CP3 is just playin' crazy. :bowdown:

[QUOTE=BIZARRO]May be too early for you, but not for me.

CP3 is playing at a level Kidd never sniffed.


I mean, man, I haven't seen a point guard play at his current level since the Magic man.

CP3 is just playin' crazy. :bowdown:[/QUOTE]

You're saying Payton, Stockton, and Thomas are already in Paul's dust? gtfo I don't see how that's possible.

[QUOTE=NY Comeback]Well, if he can't guard you, he can't guard you...

:confusedshrug:

Nobody really can guard CP3, though.[/QUOTE]

Wow...Deron WIlliams!!!

[QUOTE=iggy>]hes gotten outplayed? when????????[/QUOTE]

Paul averages 12.3/4.0/9.3, 0.306% FG%, 0.125% 3P% in 4 games this season versus Utah.

[QUOTE=iggy>]hes gotten outplayed? when????????[/QUOTE]

Last week at the season finale Kidd was outplaying him. I remember Dallas had the momentum going and Kidd drew an offensive foul at half court on CP3 and right after that CP3 just that face of frustation...

[QUOTE=gencbiba]You're saying Payton, Stockton, and Thomas are already in Paul's dust? gtfo I don't see how that's possible.[/QUOTE]

CP3 might not even win this series. But this guy is acting like he is better then Isiah. CP3 is a bad leader and that is gonna haunt him his whole career. I have never seen CP3 in a big game not lose his head, he always plays at the edge of losing it and sooner or later that will cost you in the playoffs.

I really want to see him try his whole "intimidating" things against Duncan and Bowen.

[QUOTE=gencbiba]You're saying Payton, Stockton, and Thomas are already in Paul's dust? gtfo I don't see how that's possible.[/QUOTE]


I'm not saying he's had a better career or even close of course.

But if we are talking about a sustained level of play over the course of a season, I am absolutely saying that CP3 currently is playing at a little higher level than the Glove or Stockton.

And I LOVE the Glove.

I consider Isiah as a member of Magic's era. So I didn't mean him. I mean in the mid 80's Isiah was out of his mind. But Paul is close to that currently.

P.S. In fact, I think mid '80's Isiah is one of the most underrated players in league history.

SAS isn't a reliable source

But it is a disrespectful esp. since Kidd is someone he looked up to growing up but they do whatever it takes to get in ppl's heads i guess. Not everyong can be Timmy D

[QUOTE=Younggrease]CP3 might not even win this series. But this guy is acting like he is better then Isiah. CP3 is a bad leader and that is gonna haunt him his whole career. I[B] have never seen CP3 in a big game not lose his head, [/B]he always plays at the edge of losing it and sooner or later that will cost you in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

You're watching a different CP3 than me.

[QUOTE=KokeAyne]Last week at the season finale Kidd was outplaying him. I remember Dallas had the momentum going and Kidd drew an offensive foul at half court on CP3 and right after that CP3 just that face of frustation...[/QUOTE]

you must have missed the game Cp3 had against Kidd earlier in the year when he still played for NJ or the first time they met after Kidd was traded to Dallas.