Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://kslsports.com/467024/50-jazz-defending-the-best-record-in-the-nba/[/url]
[QUOTE]It was a remarkable close to the season for the Jazz who slipped to the second seed in the West behind Phoenix on May 2 but battled back to earn home-court advantage throughout the playoffs over the final two weeks of the season without the services of Mike Conley or Donovan Mitchell.
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thanks you Rudy. Someone out here appreciates it :bowdown:
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/31/22648395/for-utah-jazz-anything-short-of-reaching-conference-finals-would-be-failure[/url]
[QUOTE]If the team enters 2022 playoffs with a healthy roster, anything short of advancing to the conference finals would come across as a failure
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goodbye COTY?
[QUOTE]Like it or not, the successes the Jazz have had over the past two years have created a situation where nearly everyone will be on the hot seat, and if the team can’t make it past the second round of the playoffs, there will be plenty of blame to go around.
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everyone but the greatest player in franchise history!
[QUOTE]The job of Zanik and the rest of the Jazz brass this offseason was to address the weaknesses of the team in order to make them a more formidable contender. On paper, that’s what the Jazz did with the additions of [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/3/22608459/what-does-the-rudy-gay-signing-mean-for-the-utah-jazz-analysis-san-antonio-spurs"]Rudy Gay[/URL], [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/3/22608778/report-utah-jazz-sign-center-hassan-whiteside"]Hassan Whiteside[/URL], [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/4/22610195/report-utah-jazz-acquiring-eric-paschall-from-golden-state-warriors-for-draft-pick"]Eric Paschall [/URL]and rookie[URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/7/30/22598631/utah-jazz-liked-jared-butler-and-were-happy-to-get-him-with-40th-pick-in-nba-draft"] Jared Butler[/URL]. Now, it all has to translate on the hardwood. And if not, who will take the blame?
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Same coach, Clarkson and Hughes remain and still no starting PF
[QUOTE]If the Jazz flame out once again in the one of the first two rounds of the playoffs it will mark the sixth time in the eight years that Snyder has been at the helm and had the same result. If a great regular-season record is the peak, it’s hard to think the Jazz wouldn’t start to look elsewhere for leadership. Will they be willing to stay with Snyder if the team experiences more of the same?
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the fact that he remains after his refusal to do anything in the last two playoffs is mind blowing as it is!
[QUOTE]After restructuring the starting lineup two years ago with the additions of Conley and Bojan Bogdanovic, the Jazz had some built-in excuses. The team was new and still learning to play together through the 2019-20 season. Plus, they didn’t have Bogdanovic for the playoffs.
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should have beat Denver regardless
[QUOTE]Last year, injuries to the Jazz’s All-Star backcourt gave the Jazz the chance to not overreact or make drastic changes to the roster. After all, they might have beat the Los Angeles Clippers if Conley and Mitchell had been healthy.
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again should have beat them regardless
[QUOTE]But last year the Jazz once again had some critical flaws that were exposed. When healthy, they’re pretty good, though they lacked experience, depth and versatility around the edges of the roster. It seemed to be a consensus around the league that the Jazz were still a couple pieces away from being a legitimate title contender.
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all year the deepest team in the league until they lose! They had plenty to win it all last year. COTY watched them get beat :facepalm
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/31/22646515/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-royce-oneale-what-to-expect-from-royce-oneale[/URL]
[QUOTE][I]How important is Royce O’Neale for the Utah Jazz?[/I]
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maybe 3rd most important. Too bad he can't just concentrate on the wing instead of rebounding though
[QUOTE]It is crazy to talk about trading him.
Elite perimeter defender. Very good 3P shooter. Aggressive rebounder. Does the dirty work. Never complains. No drama, no scandals.
And for $8.7m!
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/31/22646515/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-royce-oneale-what-to-expect-from-royce-oneale#544119923"]Aug 31, 2021 | 9:13 AM[/URL]
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yeah trade him! :roll:
[QUOTE]adding a driving game works against the Jazz.
Speaking of basketballs, Brooklyn has yet to face all three famous guys in their lineup for a serious stretch of time. If they manage that, no telling how many basketballs they will need, and who will explode first. Or will the Lakers explode before they do? Hmmm.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/templeguardtm"]templeguardtm[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/31/22646515/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-royce-oneale-what-to-expect-from-royce-oneale#544157463"]Sep 1, 2021 | 10:33 AM[/URL]
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don't agree. His drive game improved greatly and gives them another look
[QUOTE]he will be the greatest Jazz player of all time
maybe even GOAT
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already is! :lol
[QUOTE]The whole point of the Jazz constructing their roster like this is that everyone besides the center should have a green light and the offensive system distributes the ball so that everyone gets opportunities.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/GregOstertagged"]GregOstertagged[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/31/22646515/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-royce-oneale-what-to-expect-from-royce-oneale#544152087"]Sep 1, 2021 | 8:05 AM[/URL]
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really sucks when a good shooter gives up an open shot so Clarkson can take one :cry:
[QUOTE][B]everyone loves to complain about clarkson shooting too much,[/B]
but he also never passes up an open (or partially open) three
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/letter%20to%20the%20Corinthians"]letter to the Corinthians[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/31/22646515/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-royce-oneale-what-to-expect-from-royce-oneale#544160135"]Sep 1, 2021 | 11:43 AM[/URL]
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He never passes period
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/01/utah-jazz-2-free-agents-pursued/[/url]
[QUOTE]Gay is qualified for the role, but Paul Millsap may have been better.
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should have never let him go. Who knows where they'd be with Gobert/Millsap instead of the love affair they've had with Favors
[QUOTE]Admittedly, the Jazz almost certainly did not have Dennis Schroder on their radar heading into this offseason. No matter how highly one values the German floor general, there would have been a league-wide consensus that he’d have been too pricey for Utah to seriously pursue. Nonetheless, Schroder’s market value plummeted like a pale lager in a boot-shaped mug at Oktoberfest, as he agreed to a [URL="https://www.si.com/nba/2021/08/10/dennis-schroder-contract-celtics-one-year-deal#:~:text=Dennis%20Schr%C3%B6der%20has%20agreed%20to,story%20he%20is%20Boston%2Dbound."]one-year, $5.9 million dollar pact with the Boston Celtics. [/URL]
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would have been nice instead of Clarkson anyway
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/31/utah-jazz-2021-2022-western-conference-preview/[/url]
[QUOTE]If you are a Jazz fan, you probably agree with the top of this. If you are a fan of most of the other teams, you may have questions about this list. How are the Lakers not on top after adding Russell Westbrook? How is Phoenix third after they just won the West and brought back the same team? How is Portland fourth when they lost in the first round of the playoffs to Denver who didn’t even have Jamaal Murray?
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should be Jazz and Suns again
[QUOTE]The [URL="https://lakeshowlife.com/"]Los Angeles Lakers[/URL] are loaded with star power and seem to be the heavy favorites to come out of the West this year. They may have come out of the West this past year had it not been for an Anthony Davis injury. But LeBron is notoriously known for taking off the regular season if he needs to in order to be prepared for the Playoffs and with turning 37 this year, I’m sure he’ll do that again. Russell Westbrook will elevate their regular season floor however and so they will be a contender for the top spot in the West. Health and age will be a big factor for this team this year.
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their time has passed
[QUOTE]This is a really solid roster still with Lillard, McCollum, Powell, Covington, Nance, and Nurkic, among others. If Powell and McCollum can take the pressure off of Lillard some, this could be a very good regular season team, and I expect that they will. On top of that, this front office is desperate to keep Lillard and will make whatever moves they need to in order to compete this year. They should be a middle-of-the-pack team in the West with the upside to move into the top tier of the standings behind a great Lillard season.
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dark horse. Love the Nance pick up
[QUOTE][URL="https://thesmokingcuban.com/"]Dallas[/URL] is another team that could be all over the place due to the fact that they have Luka Doncic and not a whole lot else. Luka has shown that he is good enough to carry a team and he still seems to be improving. With the right pieces around him, this team could ascend into the top tier as well because Luka is that good. They re-signed Hardaway Jr and they signed Reggie Bullock. This team should be better than last year. But they are also a Luka injury away from falling out of the playoffs altogether.
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lost their coach
[QUOTE]The [URL="https://clipperholics.com/"]Clippers[/URL] are without Kahwi Leonard all season long (reportedly) and with that, they will need to look like the team they were in the playoffs in order to get back to the postseason. They are certainly expected to regress from what their performance was in the playoffs but if they are close to that form, then they are a tier too low. If they do regress, the worst-case scenario seems to be here where they are competing to make the playoffs.
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no Kawai good luck
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[URL="https://www.localmemphis.com/article/sports/nba/grizz-nation/grizzlies-to-retire-numbers-of-zach-randolph-tony-allen-this-season/522-759ed86d-842b-45bf-a7d6-ef7fe94da032"]Randolph will be honored Saturday, Dec. 11 vs. the Houston Rockets. Tony Allen will be celebrated on Friday, Jan. 28 vs. the Utah Jazz, with former teammate Mike Conley in the building.[/URL] The Grizzlies have already announced their intention to retire all four Core Four jerseys: Randolph, Allen, Conley, and Marc Gasol. The latter two are still actively playing in the NBA.
– via [URL="https://www.localmemphis.com/article/sports/nba/grizz-nation/grizzlies-to-retire-numbers-of-zach-randolph-tony-allen-this-season/522-759ed86d-842b-45bf-a7d6-ef7fe94da032"]Clayton Collier @ LocalMemphis.com[/URL]
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://kslsports.com/467117/49-can-jazz-have-three-repeat-all-stars/[/url]
probably not
[QUOTE]Mitchell is a near-lock to be named to his third All-Star team barring injury. The fifth-year guard is perennially one of the NBA’s top-15 leading scorers and is only now starting to scratch the surface of his enormous potential.
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and has the hype of an all star
[QUOTE]Conley could fill that final space if he has similar to success to last season, though he’ll be competing with both Booker and Suns teammate Chris Paul who were picked ahead of him last season to represent the West.
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could fill in Mitchell's spot since he was better last year
[QUOTE]While Conley faces an uphill climb, it’s not out of the question that another Jazzman could make his All-Star debut.
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:facepalm
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/01/utah-jazz-3-players-least-likely-roster/[/url]
[QUOTE]The first player that could be on his way out of Salt Lake City is third-year forward [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/morgaju01.html"]Juwan Morgan[/URL]. In his first two seasons in the league, he played a total of 50 games for the Jazz. However, with the arrival of Eric Paschall, who has proven that he can play the [URL="https://www.sfchronicle.com/warriors/article/How-Eric-Paschall-s-move-to-center-is-15854478.php"]small-ball five effectively[/URL], it doesn’t make much sense to keep Morgan, who has struggled to adjust to that role.
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unrestricted free agent :facepalm
Morgan has been fine as a small ball 5 or 4
[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz wing Miye Oni[/h]
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their 10th man. Likely to make it. COTY loves him. Brantley less likely
[QUOTE]This contract, like Oni’s, is not guaranteed, though, making Teague expendable if someone else were to come along.
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no one needs to come along. Exhibit 10. Camp body. Future Star :roll:
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://kslsports.com/467213/utah-jazz-add-irv-roland-to-quin-snyders-coaching-staff/[/url]
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/2/22645648/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-rudy-gay-nba[/url]
[QUOTE]On the offensive end, a majority of Gay’s issues stem from his questionable shot selection. His TS last year of 53.2% was well below league average, and this was more so do to a lack of quality shot selection rather than deficiencies in his skill set. He often settled for low efficiency 2-pointers, taking nearly a quarter of his shots from the mid-range. While Gay can make these looks at a decent rate and the skill is good to have in his bag, no one should be taking that many mid-ranges in 2021 unless they’re a Chris Paul or Kevin Durant level shooter. It’s worth noting that some of these tough shots were due to his lack of quickness stopping him from creating good looks on his own, but hopefully on a Utah team that’s stacked offensively he won’t be creating for himself as much as he did last year anyway. Gay’s lack of vertical explosion around the rim also hinders him, as he struggles to finish over length and in traffic.
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Spurs shot more from the mid range than anyone. Doubt he'll be taking many long 2's
[QUOTE]With the departure of Georges Niang to Philadelphia this offseason it would make sense for Rudy to more or less replace his spot in the rotation as the primary backup 4. He should be able to do just about everything Niang did (although not as good of a spot up shooter), while also adding a couple of new elements the team previously lacked. He can play multiple roles on offense, and his ability to offer secondary rim protection outside of the Center position should help the defense a lot in non-Gobert minutes. It wouldn’t be a surprise to see both the Rudy’s play together in high leverage situations either, as Utah’s best defensive lineup likely will feature both of them. Overall Gay figures to play a good sized role on next years team and will hopefully help fix some of last seasons issues.
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same coach, Clarkson, Mitchell. Same issues
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It also makes me think that R-Gay and possibly Paschall could replace like ~80% of Bogey’s production…maybe. Obviously R-Gay is too old to be a long term solution, but Paschall could be a long term solution if he excels with the Jazz. Not banking on this because Paschall hasn’t proven much of anything yet. But if R-Gay is the next-2-year solution and Paschall is the long-term solution, suddenly Bogey is expendable. I know it’s too early to make any decisions, but I wouldn’t be sad if 2-3 months into the season, we realize that R-Gay/Paschall could take over the PF, moving Royce to SF. I don’t necessarily want to get rid of Bogey because I think he could be due for a big bounce back year, but if he becomes expendable-ish and there is a decent offer out there, it could get interesting.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/BobWiley"]BobWiley[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/2/22645648/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-rudy-gay-nba#544199746"]Sep 2, 2021 | 1:56 PM[/URL]
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Bojan is already expendanble. But Clarkson is the one that needs to go. Bojan to 6th man
[QUOTE]Conley kind of really sucked too his 1st few months.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/statpower"]statpower[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/2/22645648/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-rudy-gay-nba#544203176"]Sep 2, 2021 | 3:27 PM[/URL]
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He didn't really though
[QUOTE]Play an 8 man rotation and exhaust the players and risk injuries for #1 seed while not developing young talent
or
Play 10-12 man rotation developing DOK and Butler while utilizing Paschall and Rudy for a #4-6 seed but no injuries, a deeper team, and potentially a better playoff performance
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/statpower"]statpower[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/2/22645648/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-rudy-gay-nba#544203314"]Sep 2, 2021 | 3:32 PM[/URL]
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They have the Stars. They will develop.
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947977-br-nba-exec-survey-who-are-the-leagues-next-top-gm-candidates"]Executives around the league continue to speculate about when and where former Utah Jazz general manager Dennis Lindsey could reemerge at the helm of another front office.[/URL] Rumors suggested Lindsey had an interest in joining the Houston Rockets, and then the Dallas Mavericks under new president Nico Harrison, but those conversations appear to have ceased, sources said.
– via [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947977-br-nba-exec-survey-who-are-the-leagues-next-top-gm-candidates"]Jake Fischer @ Bleacher Report[/URL]
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://kslsports.com/467049/47-utah-jazz-rookie-macio-teague/[/url]
[QUOTE]Where Teague tipped off his real intrigue, however, was in the Jazz Las Vegas finale where for the first time, he started at point guard. Teague showed off previously unseen playmaking skills as he recorded 12 assists, the most of his basketball career, including college, while adding 17 points on 7-15 shooting.
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also played D
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/3/22652594/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-donovan-mitchell-nba[/url]
[QUOTE][I]Can Donovan Mitchell compete for the NBA’s scoring title?[/I]
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not really what they need from him. Again offense hasn't been their problem. Can he put any effort into D and pass the ball to his teammates?
[QUOTE]In typical Donovan Mitchell fashion, those averages actually increased during the playoffs (despite essentially playing on one leg). He averaged 32.3 points and 5.5 assists per game during the playoffs while keeping his rebounds stable at 4.2 per game.
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and why was he playing on one leg? Because he forced his way on to the floor when the doctors thought he should sit
[QUOTE]More important to Jazz fans and to Donovan Mitchell himself will be to help the Jazz achieve their goals of winning a long-awaited title for the organization. Mitchell will likely be the biggest key to achieving that goal and the expected increase to efficient scoring through free throws and playmaking will only help that cause.
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He is the key only because he has yet to live up to the hype
[QUOTE]It won’t take all that much movement for Mitchell to be a 30/5/6 guy, which should put him squarely in the MVP conversation if the Jazz keep winning. For comparison, recent guards who won MVP averaged 30/5/9 (Harden), 30/5/7 (Curry), 24/4/8 (Curry), 25/4/8 (Rose), and 28/6/5 (Kobe).
I have high hopes for Mitch this year. Fingers crossed he stays healthy and comes out strong out of the gate.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/TVNY"]TVNY[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/3/22652594/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-donovan-mitchell-nba#544225152"]Sep 3, 2021 | 10:55 AM[/URL]
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can't see MVP if you aren't even one of the top two players on your team
[QUOTE][h=4]I couldn't care less if Mitchell increases his PPG to 28 or 30, or whatever.[/h]
I want to see him shoot more efficiently, help his teammates shoot more efficiently, and make his opponents shoot less efficiently.
I would love to see his TS% hit ~60% (more FTs will help) and improve his defensive metrics. That would help the team more than increasing his PPG by a couple of points by taking more shots.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/3/22652594/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-donovan-mitchell-nba#544227852"]Sep 3, 2021 | 12:27 PM[/URL]
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someone gets it
[QUOTE]The second biggest problem I see for the team this year is coach Q. How stubborn is he going to be? Are Jared, R-Gay, Eric, Udoka, Trent, Hassan going to be riding the pine as the starters are run into the ground? If they can stay healthy and Q works in some other pieces I will trust our guys to do the things they need to do to improve.
I have watched almost every game the Jazz have played since 1980.
I believe this the best and most complete roster the Jazz have ever had!
I hope they don’t waste it.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/JazzManJapan2745"]JazzManJapan2745[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/3/22652594/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-donovan-mitchell-nba#544251841"]Sep 4, 2021 | 4:39 AM[/URL]
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COTY is the biggest problem. Clarkson, Michell and Hughes are the others. Jared, Eric, Udoka and Trent can play with the Stars. Trent mostly will have to
[QUOTE]The idea that Quin plays his starters too many minutes is the stuff of fantasy, made up wholly in the minds of the ignorant masses.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/jmnunes5"]jmnunes5[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/3/22652594/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-donovan-mitchell-nba#544253694"]Sep 4, 2021 | 8:18 AM[/URL]
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refusing to change anything despite being in a desperate situation is unforgivable
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
From The Athletic and one thing I'd like to see more of.
"The one thing the Jazz can do better? Feed Gobert in the post
If you watched France in the Olympics, you saw Gobert post up regularly with passion and effort. That’s because he knew the ball would be coming his way. The French guards threw it to him time and again.
If he dropped a pass, a follow-up pass was coming on the next possession. When he did catch, there was little anyone could do with him. He either dunked, or he got fouled.
The Jazz need to throw him the ball when teams go small against them. Gobert has gotten to the point where if he gets the ball in the paint, he’s dunking it, or he’s going to the free-throw line. One of the reasons the Phoenix Suns defeated the LA Clippers in the Western Conference finals is that DeAndre Ayton absolutely punished them when they tried to go small.
Guards and wings should not be able to guard Gobert in the paint. And if the Jazz can get him the ball consistently, and Gobert can make teams pay consistently, then teams may think twice before trying to put 6-foot-6 guys on him defensively."
Re: post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!
yep. France should have got it to him more too though. They probably win the gold if they do. Also his French teammates helped him a lot more on D. They went big and he didn't have to cover the rim and the perimeter all by himself. Can COTY change? Unlikely