[QUOTE=GOBB;14974001]I remember when unc vs Duke were fun rivalries to watch. And then we get this…[/QUOTE]
It still is usually great. Duke is just a wagon and UNC is having a down year. It happens.
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[QUOTE=GOBB;14974001]I remember when unc vs Duke were fun rivalries to watch. And then we get this…[/QUOTE]
It still is usually great. Duke is just a wagon and UNC is having a down year. It happens.
[QUOTE=ralph_i_el;14973717]Ace is playing like the demon version of Dirk right now. These are big man shooter faceup buckets. The shot release point is almost unblockable, the release is pure, and the footwork into jumpers is elite.
People want to throw out Durant comps, but he had more guard in his game.[/QUOTE]
Michael Porter Jr with defensive upside maybe? The penetration/rim pressure game is what separates AJ Dybantsa and Ace Bailey.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14974005]It still is usually great. Duke is just a wagon and UNC is having a down year. It happens.[/QUOTE]
Just expected it to be more competitive.
I haven't watched Duke in awhile. Once Flagg started hitting his jumper it was obvious he was a lock at 1. I am more interested in the other guys.
I think the rest of the top 6, not sure about the order, is:
Harper
Ace
Kasparas
Tre Johnson
Edgecomb
[QUOTE=tontoz;14974026]I haven't watched Duke in awhile. Once Flagg started hitting his jumper it was obvious he was a lock at 1. I am more interested in the other guys.
I think the rest of the top 6, not sure about the order, is:
Harper
Ace
Kasparas
Tre Johnson
Edgecomb[/QUOTE]
I’d take Edgecomb over Johnson as a prospect for sure. Johnson is probably a little better right now but I don’t know that he’ll ever be more than just a decent to good bucket-getter. Edgecomb has far more upside to me.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14974034]I’d take Edgecomb over Johnson as a prospect for sure. Johnson is probably a little better right now but I don’t know that he’ll ever be more than just a decent to good bucket-getter. Edgecomb has far more upside to me.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure about that. Tre is taller and much more skilled. He is very good at movement 3s off the catch but doesn't get that many opportunities on this team. He is mostly creating his own looks.
Put a smaller guy on him and he will post them up and score routinely.
Apparently the coaches have to monitor his practice habits to prevent him from working too hard and wearing himself out.
I haven't seen much shot creation from VJ. Hard to tell if he can't do it or is just too conservative. Definitely a freak athlete.
Haven't updated this thread in a while. Huge game tonight:
- 28 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals, 3 blocks, 1 turnover
- 10/16 FG, 3/6 3PT, 5/6 FT
May have won NPOY with this performance tonight. There's one game left and he leads Basketball Reference's BPM, Bart Torvik's BPM, KenPom and EvanMiya's NPOY rankings.
If Sixers can get lucky and get a top 3 pick or win the lottery? Still don’t think whomever they take helps next season. Anyone think Flagg would make a different on a healthy (tried to type that without laughing) Sixers team? What is he going to play like a Thaddeus Young type role?
[QUOTE=tontoz;14974026]I haven't watched Duke in awhile. Once Flagg started hitting his jumper it was obvious he was a lock at 1. I am more interested in the other guys.
I think the rest of the top 6, not sure about the order, is:
Harper
Ace
Kasparas
Tre Johnson
Edgecomb[/QUOTE]I still don’t think he’ll be the Garnett type defensive presence they imagined.
He’s 6’9”, not 7’0”
Def has his J more polished, but I’m still not wowed with any specific offensive movement.
His overall ability to cover ground on both ends is impressive. Great athlete, with much better natural strength than his lanky looks indicate. But I don’t see instant superstar. I see solid player, but not a perennial all-star, unless he develops some signature offensive game.
He does have one specific move that can become a sort of “signature highlight”, but it’s not something you can use countless times a game to produce: shot fake to pivot, pivot into an open lane and lob it off the glass to yourself for a two hand monster dunk.
Flagg is leading the NCAA in some advanced stats as a freshman. He is definitely an elite prospect. Not on the same tier as Wemby/LeBron/Shaq but still elite.
Garnett was a soft jump shooter that didn't put much pressure on the rim. Flagg gets to the rim a lot.
I see Flagg more as a modern Ak47 but stronger and a better shooter.
A bigger, better shooting Jimmy Butler is a comp I've heard over on RealGM. I like it. Bigger to the tune of 2" in height, 5-7" in wingspan, and 5-7" in standing reach. And much longer strides/relatively higher center of gravity.
The other forum are complete retards, they had to change their tune quickly no Flagg though. The other forum is the basketball version of Reddit, while ISH is the basketball version of X.
[QUOTE=BarberSchool;14983898]I still don’t think he’ll be the Garnett type defensive presence they imagined.
He’s 6’9”, not 7’0”
Def has his J more polished, but I’m still not wowed with any specific offensive movement.
His overall ability to cover ground on both ends is impressive. Great athlete, with much better natural strength than his lanky looks indicate. But I don’t see instant superstar. I see solid player, but not a perennial all-star, unless he develops some signature offensive game.
He does have one specific move that can become a sort of “signature highlight”, but it’s not something you can use countless times a game to produce: shot fake to pivot, pivot into an open lane and lob it off the glass to yourself for a two hand monster dunk.[/QUOTE]
Earlier in this thread, I had a similar opinion on his offense, but that's changed for me. He's been so good facing up and using the triple threat, and pulling up in a number of different ways for jumpers. I've seen significant improvement to the touch on his J.
Flagg has a chance to really be great at scoring. Hope he finds the right folks to work out with. Like Tatum did. Would suck if he was just really good.
Big games coming up in regards to lottery odds.
Nets vs Hornets tonight
Wizards vs Raps playing twice
Jazz come to Philadelphia tomorrow night with
The Sixers on a back to back
Pels on back to back with Rockets and Memphis
Toronto are putting in their best effort to get into the play in. Brooklyn need to rest Cam Thomas because he keeps trying to win games.