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[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/3/22/22342020/joe-ingles-and-fine-wine-you-get-the-idea-of-improvement-with-age[/URL]
Best Single-season TS%
Michael Jordan: 61.4%
LeBron James: 64.9%
Kevin Durant: 65.1%
Steph Curry: 67.5%
All Non-centers: 69.9%
All-time NBA history: 72.6%
Joe Ingles this season: 73.2%Does that answer your question, [URL="https://twitter.com/AndrewDBailey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1373129757966049285%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.slcdunk.com%2F2021%2F3%2F22%2F22342020%2Fjoe-ingles-and-fine-wine-you-get-the-idea-of-improvement-with-age"]@AndrewDBailey[/URL]?
[QUOTE]His turnover rate (TOV%) is also the lowest of his career at 15.4, despite his assist rate (AST%) being the 3rd highest of his career.
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good news. He makes some bad passes
[QUOTE]Joe Ingles: 16.4 pts, 4.7 rbs, 5.8 ast, 2.0 tov, 71.3% eFG
Jordan Clarkson: 24.5 pts, 5.4 rbs, 3.1 ast, 2.5 tov, 54.1% eFG
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He won't get it but should if Clarkson does
[QUOTE]Prior to the 2019-20 season kicking off, the Utah Jazz [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2859195-joe-ingles-jazz-agree-to-1-year-14m-extension-under-contract-through-2022#:~:text=Utah%20Jazz-,Joe%20Ingles%2C%20Jazz%20Agree%20to%201%2DYear%2C%20%2414M,Extension%3B%20Under%20Contract%20Through%202022&text=Joe%20Ingles%20agreed%20to%20a,through%20the%202021%2D22%20season."]extended[/URL] Joe Ingles a 1 yr/$14M contract. At that point, Joe was coming off arguably his best season. At first glance, it seemed appropriate.
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It didn't actually because he declined the year before
[QUOTE][B]His play this season[/B]
Has really opened up the door to the possibility his jersey gets retired.
If he signs one more contract and is productive until 36 I think his jersey has an excellent chance of being retired.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/ThomasSmithjaz1"]ThomasSmithjaz1[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/3/22/22342020/joe-ingles-and-fine-wine-you-get-the-idea-of-improvement-with-age#537857939"]Mar 22, 2021 | 2:09 PM[/URL]
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which would be a joke as many of the others are. Should just be the HOFers
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/qa-trade-deadline-nears/[/url]
[QUOTE]Of course the Jazz should trade Bogdanovic[URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/qa-trade-deadline-nears/#note-1"]1[/URL]… as long as they can net a return that improves the team. If the franchise’s brain trust can wrangle a deal that qualifies as a no-brainer, pull the trigger without hesitation. But here’s the catch: very few deals are no-brainers. Most trades involve swapping one set of imperfections for another. Could the Jazz find better defensive player? Sure, but it probably won’t be someone who’s a career .393 long distance shooter, so it becomes a game of swapping out one weakness but adding another.
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getting rid of him makes them better regardless if they get anything back
[QUOTE]I’ll also add here while Bogdanovic is feeling the most heat in social media, he’s far from the only player who isn’t playing up to par. Presumptive Sixth Man of the Year Jordan Clarkson has really slowed down, Derrick Favors hasn’t provided quite the boost the front office was hoping for, and even Royce O’Neale and Donovan Mitchell have lacked defensive energy or focus in recent games.
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Clarkson, Favors and Mitchell should be on the block as well
[QUOTE]This seems like a good place to start, and if we skip over players who aren’t reasonably attainable, it’s a pretty short list. My abbreviated version of the list looks like this: Rudy Gay, Oladipo, Raul Neto, Gordon, Harrison Barnes and Taurean Prince.
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too bad COTM didn't like Neto
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[B][url]https://saltcityhoops.com/sc7-def-urgency-slow-starts/[/url]
[QUOTE]Jazz 115, Raptors 112: Donovan Mitchell.[/B] Gobert led the popular vote based on the perception that he shut down the Raptors late, and he did have some [URL="https://twitter.com/tjcranman/status/1373122656862543877?s=20"]amazing sequences[/URL]. But this game wasn’t actually won on the defensive end; far from it actually, the Raptors actually scored 22 points in the final 6 minutes, including eight straight productive possessions where Utah could not get a stop. Not that I’d have a problem giving it to Gobert (who had 15 & 16), but to me it was Mitchell who won this game with a late surge. After the Raptors went up 5 with 1:36 to play, Don powered a 10-2 run by scoring eight straight of his own. Ingles couldn’t miss, with a ridiculous 122% true shooting night on the way to 19 points. But I just couldn’t justify giving it to Ingles’ 19-6-5 on a night when Mitchell had 31-6-5 and did what he did in the final 90 seconds.
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the D was good for 3 quarters so I'd say it was a big part of the win
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Fellow All-Star Donovan Mitchell said that he isn’t sure why so many players insist on attacking when Gobert is in the way at this point. Don’t they know their chances of scoring are low? [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2021/3/22/22344703/rudy-gobert-narrowly-misses-out-on-elusive-utah-jazz-regular-season-triple-double-nba"]“They kept trying to attack him, I don’t know why,” Mitchell said with a laugh. “I wouldn’t. I would just shoot a pull-up or something. I don’t know why guys continuously do that.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2021/3/22/22344703/rudy-gobert-narrowly-misses-out-on-elusive-utah-jazz-regular-season-triple-double-nba"]Sarah Todd @ deseret.com[/URL]
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://kslsports.com/455967/gobert-mitchell-ingles-lead-jazz-charge-over-bulls/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz were able to get off to an unusually hot start, something the team has been lacking over the last 10 games.
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all year
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50131555/an-animal-rudy-gobert-finishes-1-block-shy-of-triple-double-in-blowout-of-bulls[/url]
[QUOTE]Due to that long drought, it would have almost felt appropriate for it to end in a very odd way — not with the typical points, rebounds and assists, but with blocks.
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would have felt more appropriate if it had been the 3rd most important player in their history
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[url]https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/03/23/triple-team-rudy-goberts/[/url]
[QUOTE]I remember when I was growing up as a young basketball fan in the 2000s being astounded by Mark Eaton’s block numbers. He got 5.6 blocks per game? How was that even possible?
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stand cluelessly with your arms up in an era when people lived in the post
[QUOTE]“Don’t fall in love with threes, and the reason why I say that is because Rudy Gobert is in the middle. You cannot be afraid to take it to him and attack him in the paint. If you don’t attack him, it’s going to be a long night.”
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:roll:
[QUOTE]It’s something that national analysts have picked up, too. Gobert’s not only the league’s best defender — but he might be getting better.
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1 man wrecking crew!
:cheers:
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He’s such a treat to watch, though. In my opinion, he’s one of the most fun players to watch in the NBA, because he’s such a savant at everything defensively and yet has such a goofy skillset at everything else. He’s also remarkably effective, and at this moment in time, that max extension he signed looks like a great deal for both sides right now.
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yep and most people only love 3's, dunks and triple doubles
[QUOTE]Now, it is more likely than not that Ingles will not shoot 50% from three for the rest of the year, and he won’t qualify for this list either. But, that Ingles has his name in this discussion is impressive: those three were all outright shooters, while Ingles has a bit more to his game in terms of playmaking. (I suppose Kerr did too, but in a very different way than Ingles’ pick-and-roll mastery.)
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no Kerr didn't. He coould knock down an open shot. Only reason he was around
[QUOTE]And at times, his defense has been problematic as well. But I thought that tonight, he was actually quite good on that end, helping the Jazz to defend while they were putting a lot of defensive attention on LaVine.
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at times
[QUOTE]I think Bogdanovic will be fine, though I acknowledge that he is 31 years old now, and this could be a new, age-related decline. But I think he’ll be able to play himself into a role that really helps the Jazz by the playoffs. It could be as the 20 point-per-game scorer he was last season, but I think a more deferential role is a bit more likely.
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He needs to be coming off the bench if they can't or won't trade him
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[QUOTE]In addition to Drummond, sources said [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2937698-what-inside-sources-are-saying-about-nbas-top-buyout-candidates"]Cleveland has held numerous conversations on JaVale McGee, Larry Nance Jr. and Cedi Osman. With Nance, the Cavaliers’ asking price appears high.[/URL] The front office is seeking at least a first-round pick for a player whose father once starred for the franchise and who has been a staple of the team in its transition past the LeBron James era.
– via [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2937698-what-inside-sources-are-saying-about-nbas-top-buyout-candidates"]Jake Fischer @ Bleacher Report[/URL]
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If they'll take some combo of Bojan, Favors or Clarkson give them the 1st and be done with it! :cheers:
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[url]https://kslsports.com/456001/jazz-return-home-to-begin-homestand-against-nets/[/url]
[QUOTE]After narrowly beating the Toronto Raptors on Friday, the Jazz steamrolled the [URL="https://kslsports.com/455967/gobert-mitchell-ingles-lead-jazz-charge-over-bulls/"]Chicago Bulls[/URL] Monday night 120-95. The win in Chicago looked remarkably similar to the team’s results during the first half of the season when they buried teams as they ascended to the top of the Western Conference standings.
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the D was better against Toronto and Boston too
[QUOTE]Gobert will have to prove he can be more successful against the aging Jordan if the Jazz hope to win the opening game of their homestand.
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No Durant or Kyrie. This isn't on Rudy. It's a must win
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://kslsports.com/455980/buy-sell-or-hold-utah-jazz-at-the-trade-deadline/[/url]
[QUOTE]Conley has said he likes Utah and seems inclined to re-sign in the summer, but finding an agreeable price tag could be a thornier discussion than some expect. Regardless, the Jazz can’t move the guard without seriously undercutting their championship aspirations, so expect him to stay a Jazzman for the foreseeable future.
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Need to pay him period! If it means trading everyone but Gobert do it
[QUOTE]Mitchell is only three and a half seasons into his NBA career and is already in the discussion as a top-five Jazz player of all time. Fans should enjoy every second they get to watch him. He’s not going anywhere.
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There's at least 4 HOFers and Rudy so no :facepalm
[QUOTE]It’s nearly unfathomable that Bojan Bogdanovic could be on the trade market after how brilliantly he played last season for the Jazz, but after undergoing wrist surgery over the summer, the sharpshooter hasn’t been the same.
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It's unfathomable if he's not and that was before he sucked this year
[QUOTE]Mix in the fact that he is set to earn nearly $40 million over the next two seasons, and that clearing that money from the books in the next few days would make resigning Conley significantly easier, the idea of moving Bogdanovic becomes that much more palatable.
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the fact that they'd be better off with the roster space and Morgan, Oni or Ersan in the lineup is even a better reason
[QUOTE]I think people forget how small the Jazz felt without Bojan Bogdanovic in the bubble. He’s not a great defender or rebounder but he’s a big person and I think Quin Snyder likes that to close games.[/QUOTE]
Them being small was the front office and COTM fault. Bojan plays small regardless
[QUOTE]The Jazz can’t take on just any expiring deal for the forward, as his floor spacing is essential for the Jazz offense. But, if he continues at this lower level of play, he’ll be a target for opposing teams on both sides of the ball in the playoffs.
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He's not essential. They roll even with hi sucking or without him like in the bubble
[QUOTE]The best version of the Jazz features the Bogdanovic the team saw last season, and that player could return as he continues to put distance between himself and his surgery. However, if any of the team’s main rotational pieces is going to be moved in the next two days, Bogdanovic should be the odds on favorite.
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the problem is even at his best I'm not sure he's a positive. They pretty much said they aren't trading their rotation guys. Niang would be 1st I'm afraid
[QUOTE]However, at his best, which the Jazz saw for the first two months of the season, Clarkson has the talent to turn a good team into a championship contender.
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not a great fit regardless. I'd trade him if I could
[QUOTE]The Jazz could sell high on Clarkson now but would be instantly worse without him, plus, he seems destined to win the Sixth Man of the Year Award. His stock should only rise, and he helps the Jazz win games, even with his recent string of inefficiency.
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I don't think they'd be worse. Ingles is looking like a 6th man and Oni plays D
[QUOTE]Like Clarkson, the Jazz could sell high on Ingles now, but they’d be worse off without him.
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in his case likely
[QUOTE]But at this point, he shouldn’t be considered untradable, though there likely isn’t much of a market for him.
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dump him if you can
[QUOTE]At his currently minimum contract, there’s no urgency to explore moving him, and with lower shooting percentages this season, there might not be an enormous market for him for the Jazz to compete with in the summer.
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He's going to get paid so I could see trading him
You forgot Hughes. I'd dump him if I could too
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50132075/from-the-comments-will-the-triple-double-drought-ever-end-jazz-have-had-lots-of-close-calls[/url]
[QUOTE]In 2013-14, Gordon Hayward had four games when he came up just one assist shy of a triple-double, another where he was two assists short, and another where he needed just a single point and a single rebound to reach the elusive stat line.
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sorry 2 assists is not close nor is 1 board and 1 point
[QUOTE]That's kind of been the case in 2020-21 as well. Gobert officially got the closest on Monday, but there have been plenty of players before him that have been on triple-double watch. Donovan Mitchell finished two assists shy of the mark in one game and two rebounds short in another, and Mike Conley gave it a run with a 14 point, eight rebound, eight assist line. But like so many before them, they've come up short.
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:facepalm
[QUOTE][B]10-10-8 games during triple-double drought[/B]
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:roll:
[QUOTE]"I have incredible confidence in Bojan and the things that he does for our team and he's a big part and an important part of what we do," Snyder said.
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sadly
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50131654/the-story-behind-joe-ingles-historic-3-point-run[/url]
[QUOTE]"It was the first time in a long time I hadn't traveled and gone back to Melbourne and spent time — it's always obviously good to go home but it's a bit harder to find a gym," Ingles said.
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buy one! :facepalm
[QUOTE]All those times that Ingles passed up on seemingly open 3s? It could have simply been the case of him not believing he had enough time to actually shoot. This season, you've seen Ingles catch the ball above his head and fire it without ever bringing it down much more often.
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not an excuse when he was wide open
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2021/3/23/22346409/utah-jazz-shorthanded-brooklyn-nets-kyrie-irving-kevin-durant-james-harden-donovan-mitchell[/url]
[QUOTE]Even so, the Jazz’s All-Star guard Donovan Mitchell is quick to point out that the Nets are a deep team and that their arsenal also includes the newly acquired Blake Griffin.
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oh no! :roll:
[QUOTE]“Obviously Kyrie is out, K.D. is out, but they still have an MVP over there in James Harden,” Mitchell said after the Jazz’s Monday night win in Chicago. “They’ve got Joe Harris, they’ve got Blake they got a bunch of guys, Bruce Brown’s a hell of a defender so we’ve just got to go out there and be ready. Because you know with those guys being out that’s more shots coming from different areas and we’ve got to be ready to cover them.”
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4 guys isn't deep.
[QUOTE]After playing the Nets, the Jazz will be at home for a back-to-back set against the Memphis Grizzlies on Friday and Saturday before hosting the Cleveland Cavaliers on Monday.
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Need to win all 4 of those or at least 1 of 2 from Memphis and the others
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2021/3/23/22344477/utah-jazz-nba-championship-superteam-era-why-jazz-title-would-be-perfect-antidote[/url]
[QUOTE]All of which reduces realistic contenders to two or three teams each year; the other teams are there to pad the schedule. In the decade since James took his talents to Miami, every NBA Finals has featured one of those teams — James’ Heat in four of them, James’ Cavaliers in two of them, Durant’s Warriors in three of them, James’ Lakers in one of them.
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best players win
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[QUOTE]Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic: “This is probably the worst stretch of my shooting of my career. … I’m making bad decisions.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic, on why he’s struggling: “It’s just me fighting with myself. I don’t wanna talk about my hand, honestly. I’ve had good games in there. It’s not about my health.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic, on the need to find other ways to help when his shot isn’t going in: “I gotta contribute to games in other ways when I’m in this kind of shape, in this kind of slump.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: Bojan: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“I’m making bad decisions on when to attack [versus] when to calm down and just wait in the corner for my shot. … I’ve got to be stronger with the ball, and wait on those shots that are gonna be there for me.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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you need to go!
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Marc Stein: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Nets say James Harden (neck soreness) is questionable and Blake Griffin (left knee – injury management) is out for tonight’s game at Utah[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine"]Twitter TheSteinLine[/URL]
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[QUOTE]Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Woj lists the Utah Jazz as a dark horse candidate to land JJ Redick as a buyout guy, while acknowledging that Brooklyn would probably be the frontrunner[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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not sure he fits unless he's taking Clarkson or Bojan's spot. Rather have Niang at this stage
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Alex Schiffer: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Nets rule James Harden out for tonight’s game in Utah due to neck soreness[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Alex__Schiffer"]Twitter Alex__Schiffer[/URL]
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/3/24/22348305/utah-jazz-face-a-depleted-brooklyn-nets-nba-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert-kevin-durant-james-harden[/url]
[QUOTE]When it comes to the offensive end, I’m still not so worried. I would really love to see the Jazz throw the him the ball in the post early on in the game to try and build some confidence. I think a large part of his struggles right now are his hesitancy to take the shots he best at, which in turn, push him toward shots he is not-so-good at. Still, for right now, I’m happy to see him working on defense and I look forward to that again tonight.
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I'd like to him traded
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[url]https://kslsports.com/456068/is-it-difficult-to-add-players-to-the-jazz-at-the-trade-deadline/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=1]Is It Difficult To Welcome Players To The Jazz At The Trade Deadline?[/h]
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yep but they need to do it if they can
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Ben Anderson: Quin Snyder on Jordan Clarkson’s struggles: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“I don’t want to overreact to one or two games for any of our guys. We know who Jordan is, he’s been terrific, and he’s had far more games where he’s made shots.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/456084/bogdanovic-flourishes-while-clarkson-struggles-as-jazz-crush-nets/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=1]Bogdanovic Flourishes While Clarkson Struggles As Jazz Crush Nets[/h]
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flourishes? Let's not go over board
[QUOTE]Still, the Jazz are going to need Clarkson to right the ship before the postseason. Last year Clarkson averaged 20.3 points per game in the team’s three playoff wins, and just 14 points in the four losses.
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that right there tells the story. We're going to need him, Bojan and Favors :cry:
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/03/25/triple-team-nets-rested/[/url]
[QUOTE]What can the NBA do about this? I don’t know. I think at this point, it’s kind of a problem that’s a symptom of the league’s structure. 72 games in a compressed schedule results in a playoff setup where home-court advantage just doesn’t matter very much — most of your series aren’t going to go to a Game 7, and if it does, that game is much more likely to be determined by matchup considerations than by where the game is being played.
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doesn't have much to do with the schedule. Same as last year
[QUOTE]Do you know who has been weirdly ineffective in isolation situations this season? Jordan Clarkson!
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and that's pretty much all he does :cry:
[QUOTE]But Clarkson’s more of a surprise. We know him as a twitchy scorer, but that hasn’t actually translated into isolation success this year; instead he’s been much more effective as a pick-and-roll or spot-up guy.
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Like Bojan he should just spot up
[QUOTE]I think it makes some sense, actually. For as good as a scorer as he is, Clarkson doesn’t exactly jump off the charts athletically. He doesn’t have blow-by speed, he doesn’t have amazing verticality, he scores through essentially guile and extreme skill.
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I'd say he's very athletic.
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2021/3/24/22344737/instant-analysis-utah-jazz-wire-to-wire-win-shorthanded-brooklyn-nets-bojan-bogdanovic[/url]
[QUOTE]Bojan Bogdanovic, who has been having a really rough time lately, especially from a shooting perspective, put together a really solid game on Wednesday. He finished with 18 points, including going 4 of 6 from deep. He also went 4 of 5 from the free-throw line and added three rebounds and three assists. He actually would have had more assists if his teammates would have hit a couple of open shots.
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why would you tell us there 6'8 forward who some call their PF had 3 rebounds? :facepalm
[QUOTE]Jordan Clarkson went into Wednesday’s game shooting 30.6% from 3-point range over the last 10 games. Then he went 1 of 11 from beyond the arc against Brooklyn. I guess that when one slump closes (Bogdanovic), another one opens. While some of Clarkson’s shots were missed, wide open looks, there were also quite a few bad shots that he should have never taken. From everything that we’ve heard from NBA players over the years, the best way to break out of a slump is to just keep shooting, but you’d kind of like him to wait for the good looks rather than taking the bad ones right now.
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even when he's good he takes lots of bad looks.
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/3/24/22285722/the-utah-jazz-take-care-of-business-at-home-vs-the-brooklyn-nets-donovan-mitchell[/url]
[QUOTE]Number 45 looked un-guardable tonight. Despite only playing 27 minutes, Mitchell put up 27 points, seven assists, six rebounds, and zero turnovers. He was a plus 38 on the game. THIRTY-EIGHT. Over the last few games, Mitchell has played at a higher level than normal. Instead of getting ahead of himself and trying to make difficult plays, he is reading the game, finding his spots, and making defenses pay for being out of place. This is the Donovan Mitchell that can lead the Utah Jazz on a deep playoff run.
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the last two games anyway
[QUOTE]Will the Jazz do anything?
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/3/24/22285722/the-utah-jazz-take-care-of-business-at-home-vs-the-brooklyn-nets-donovan-mitchell#537960051"]Mar 25, 2021 | 5:30 AM[/URL]
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they might but it won't be what they need to do
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[QUOTE]Chris Grenham: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]If Otto Porter gets bought out in Orlando, which you’d have to think is likely, he’d be an interesting candidate for the Celtics[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/chrisgrenham"]Twitter chrisgrenham[/URL]
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get it done Jazz!:cheers:
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[QUOTE]Adrian Wojnarowski: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Toronto is trading guard Matt Thomas to the Utah Jazz for a future second-round pick,[/URL] source tells ESPN.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/wojespn"]Twitter wojespn[/URL]
Adrian Wojnarowski: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Deal opens a roster spot to take on an additional player in a Lowry trade. Raptors continue talking to teams on deals within 45 minutes of deadline.[/URL] Thomas gives the Jazz another in an endless line of three-point shooters on the team.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/wojespn"]Twitter wojespn[/URL]
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can shoot the 3 maybe nothing else it would appear? Non guarantee next year. Hopefully they are going to at least try to move Hughes to open up roster space for Porter?
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50133862/jazz-trade-for-toronto-sharpshooter-matt-thomas[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz will be sending Toronto the 2021 second-round pick they got from Golden State, a pick the Jazz got when they traded Derrick Favors to New Orleans two years ago.
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a pretty good pick. Would have rather given up their own pick if they have it. So 1 2nd and no 1st this summer? Gt another pick for Hughes and open up a roster space for Porter when he gets bought out?
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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: According to sources, the [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jazz will evaluate the buyout market and look at possible scenarios.[/URL] Not sure if they get anything done, because they are at a max of 15…but they will certainly evaluate the market
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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of course they say that but they would have looked to keep roster space or create more if they were serious
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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: A couple of things. [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Matt Thomas has a guarantee date on his contract for next season, but the Jazz are trading for him with the intention of bringing him back next season,[/URL] according to sources. They are high on him
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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Conley's replacement? :coleman:
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[QUOTE]Andy Larsen: Trade deadline confirms: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jazz will be a luxury tax team this year. New owner Ryan Smith ponied up to keep this Jazz team together[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]Twitter andyblarsen[/URL]
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stupidly just like the last two times they paid tax. This one is big though because they will be paying the repeater tax one year earlier now.
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/3/25/22350889/utah-jazz-trade-for-matt-thomas-from-the-toronto-raptors-nba-trade-deadline-2021[/url]
[QUOTE]But this does appear to be a solid pickup. Utah sends a second round pick for Thomas who is likely better than anything they might have drafted with their second round pick.
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but not better than what they could get in Otto Porter. They would have to cut Ersan who they need more than this guy or this guy now
[QUOTE]This also provides solid depth to the bench. The Jazz have seen multiple players slump lately including Jordan Clarkson and Bojan Bogdanovic. Having Thomas gives Utah the chance to get some immediate shooting if needed in a pinch.
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Ersan and Morgan.
[QUOTE]Probably better for us considering we take players like udoka in the 1st round…. lmao
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/ThomasSmithjaz1"]ThomasSmithjaz1[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/3/25/22350889/utah-jazz-trade-for-matt-thomas-from-the-toronto-raptors-nba-trade-deadline-2021#537986160"]Mar 25, 2021 | 1:23 PM[/URL]
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Udoka made perfect sense. Time will tell
[QUOTE]Udoka Azubuike is the next Curtis Borchardt, if he’s lucky.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Matt_Grbac"]Matt_Grbac[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/3/25/22350889/utah-jazz-trade-for-matt-thomas-from-the-toronto-raptors-nba-trade-deadline-2021#537986608"]Mar 25, 2021 | 1:27 PM[/URL]
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sounds more Rudy like. Bochardt was good. Just couldn't stay healthy
[QUOTE] the team could probably use a wing defender over another shooter.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Palmetto%20Bug"]Palmetto Bug[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/3/25/22350889/utah-jazz-trade-for-matt-thomas-from-the-toronto-raptors-nba-trade-deadline-2021#537989662"]Mar 25, 2021 | 2:09 PM[/URL]
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or a PF :facepalm
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Seems like he’s about the same level as Oni—almost the exact same 3 point % this year even. Probably a guy you can at least use in a playoff series, where Hughes and Forrest really aren’t ready and Harrison was a big disappointment.
Not too worried about trading a 2nd round pick. Who was our last 2nd round pick that made the rotation for us? Jeremy Evans?
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/ThatFilthyApe"]ThatFilthyApe[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/3/25/22350889/utah-jazz-trade-for-matt-thomas-from-the-toronto-raptors-nba-trade-deadline-2021#537988477"]Mar 25, 2021 | 1:52 PM[/URL]
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better shooter than Oni. Probably not as good at anything else. Harrison makes more sense. Not sure how he was disappointing. Tried him out and didn't like him
[QUOTE]He was Georges Niang’s teammate on the Iowa State Cyclones. So there is that. He went to Europe for a while before the raptors snatched him up. He was put on the other team’s best offensive player in college with the cyclones.
I don’t really know about on the Raptors since it seems like they held up a huge FIRE SALE sign up this trade deadline but, ultimately give the guy a chance. I think he can do some good things in whatever bench minutes he may get.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/dihenry3"]dihenry3[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/3/25/22350889/utah-jazz-trade-for-matt-thomas-from-the-toronto-raptors-nba-trade-deadline-2021#537990893"]Mar 25, 2021 | 2:30 PM[/URL]
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Georges!
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Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Alex Jensen has withdrawn his name from consideration for the University of Utah job,[/URL] league sources tell myself and @chriskamrani. Jensen had great conversations with Utah AD Mark Harlan but ultimately decided the timing wasn’t right.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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[QUOTE]Shams Charania: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]LaMarcus Aldridge gave back $7.25 million in contract buyout with the Spurs,[/URL] sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium . Aldridge was due $24M this season. The Miami Heat are a strong candidate to sign the former All-Star as a free agent, per sources, with Portland among others in mix.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania"]Twitter ShamsCharania[/URL]
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Jazz?
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Adrian Wojnarowski: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Knicks associate head coach Johnnie Bryant remains a significant candidate in the Utes’ search, sources tell ESPN. Bryant is another well-regarded former Utes player who joined the Knicks after spending six seasons as an assistant under Quin Snyder with the Jazz[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/wojespn"]Twitter wojespn[/URL]
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[QUOTE]Chris Haynes: Yahoo Sources: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]LaMarcus Aldridge will have conversations with the Miami Heat, Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Clippers and Brooklyn Nets before deciding on his next destination[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes"]Twitter ChrisBHaynes[/URL]
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****in' Jazz :facepalm
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[url]https://kslsports.com/456138/nba-trade-deadline-and-the-moves-that-impact-the-jazz/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz already have perhaps the deepest guard rotation in the NBA with two All-Stars in Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley. Reserve Jordan Clarkson is the frontrunner for the NBA’s Sixt Man of the Year Award, while Joe Ingles is one of the league’s most reliable veteran reserves.
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Maybe the smallest and most inefficient and worst defensively
[QUOTE]Gordon adds some credibility to a struggling Nuggets defense that has had to rely on Michael Porter Jr. and veteran big man Paul Millsap, neither of whom are capable of staying with the best wings in the NBA at this point in their careers.
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why is Millsap on wings?
[QUOTE]Overall, Gordon adds depth to the Nuggets’ questionable frontcourt, and Denver paid a relatively low cost to land him, but NBA fans hoping for a shift in the power in the Western Conference may be underwhelmed by the final result.
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I guess. It certainly makes them better.
[QUOTE]This was a smart move for the Clippers and gives them a valuable veteran in the backcourt with a proven track record in the playoffs that could be a difficult matchup for Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley.
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Lou has been tough on them. This might be good for the Jazz
[QUOTE]Portland sent out former Jazzman Rodney Hood and promising guard Gary Trent Jr. in the trade, losing some depth and size, but adding a more proven scorer to the roster.
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Hood's plenty proven as a scorer
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50134077/reports-jazzs-alex-jensen-removes-name-from-university-of-utah-coaching-search[/url]
[QUOTE]While the draw to come back to his alma mater may be there, Bryant is also seen as a rising young coach in the NBA. He helped develop Gordon Hayward and Donovan Mitchell into All-Stars while in Utah, and has helped Immanuel Quickley to an impressive rookie year this season. And an NBA head coaching job may very well be in his near future, as well. Or, he could come back home.
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helped develop Millsap into a star for another team. Thanks Lindsey! :facepalm
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2021/3/25/22348608/trade-deadline-moves-utah-jazz-western-conference-kyle-lowry-aaron-gordon-rajon-rondo-matt-thomas[/url]
[QUOTE]First let’s talk about the lone Jazz deal made on Thursday. The Jazz sent a 2021 second-round pick to the Toronto Raptors (via the Golden State Warriors) in exchange for guard Matt Thomas to take up the Jazz’s 15th and final roster spot, a move that required very little, if no risk at all, for a player that has a lot of upside.
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at 26 he doesn't have a lot of upside. Let's not oversell it
[QUOTE]The Jazz could certainly choose to empty out a roster spot for someone that they find on the buyout market but at this point it seems as if the Jazz aren’t looking to make any big-time moves that would impact their rotation ahead of the playoffs, signaling that the team believes that its current makeup is enough to take them deep into the postseason.
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typical Jazz thinking. There's always next year!
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[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/no-major-moves-for-first-place-jazz-on-deadline-day/[/url]
[QUOTE]It’s easy to feel left out as Denver, Portland, Dallas and the Clippers all made deals in hopes of improving their title odds. It’s natural to want to keep up with the Joneses. But Jazz fans: YOU are the Joneses. Your team is the one everybody is scrambling to keep in their sights.
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it's easy to feel left out because they're roster is flawed and this may be their best chance of winning big. Strike while the iron is hot
[QUOTE]Beyond that, there just wasn’t an obvious route to assembling a trade package that could net the Jazz a difference-maker without disrupting what’s made this season one of the best in franchise history. They have no interest in trading All-Stars Donovan Mitchell or Rudy Gobert (and in the latter’s case they legally can’t). Mike Conley Jr. wouldn’t return full value as an expiring rental, and he’s been a vital engine behind the Jazz’s success anyway.
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yeah trade Conley! :facepalm
[QUOTE]In terms of value realization, the Jazz’s best move with Bogdanovic was always going to be waiting for him to return to form. They got a taste of that on trade deadline eve, when Bogey dropped 18 points on just eight shots and played solid defense in a lopsided win over the shorthanded Nets. It was the kind of night that hinted at Bogey’s ideal role on the current Jazz roster: he didn’t dominated the ball, but was ready to pounce as a spot-up shooter and occasional second-side creator, and he held his own with good position defense.
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the best move would have been to move him before the season. Return to form is still one dimensional
[QUOTE]They had/have few other value pieces. Jordan Clarkson’s value is at an all-time high, and he’s young enough (28) to still appeal to teams at different points in the competitive cycle. He’s averaging a career best 17 points, and a month-long funk aside, the overarching narrative on him is a positive one. His name probably could have gotten the Jazz into some conversations that Bogey couldn’t, given those factors. But the Jazz were likely reluctant to part with a fan favorite and Sixth Man of the Year frontrunner, unless something blew them away. That Clarkson might have been their best legitimate trade piece is a good indication of why nothing major happened.
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another guy they should have never have even brought back this year
[QUOTE]Royce O’Neale has some value, but sending him out in a trade would have cost the Jazz some of the very skills they are ostensibly hoping to add: a physical wing defender and a good rebounder at his position. Ingles’ value is always tricky because he means so much to the Jazz culturally. Georges Niang has some fans out there, but he doesn’t have enough value to headline a significant deal. Ditto for Derrick Favors, who the Jazz just brought back to Utah. Their non-rotation guys were never going to move the needle on a significant upgrade.
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Royce is a good rebounder for his size not his position. Niang could open a roster space. They might have to consider duping him actually if Porter wants to come. Favors should have never been brought back. Not all about an upgrade. Luxury tax and roster space too
[QUOTE][B]JJ Redick:[/B] New Orleans got James Johnson, Wes Iwundu and a second. Wouldn’t have been hard to compete with that package from a value standpoint, but the issue here is matching salary without disrupting the core. Does JJ add enough that it’s worth giving up Ingles? Or Clarkson? Or O’Neale plus a small salary? And even if you think the answer is yes in a vacuum, is it worth it for an expiring rental when all of the aforementioned three are committed to the Jazz longer term?
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Yep! James Johnson for Clarkson/Bojan/Favors anyday
[QUOTE]The Jazz would have to create a roster spot in order to sign Porter or anybody else, and at this point that means eating guaranteed salary. The Jazz have waived players with guaranteed money before, most notably when they acquired both Ingles and later O’Neale at the expense of players thought to be safe by virtue of their guarantees. A bigger hangup might be the heartburn over moving on from developmental projects like Juwan Morgan, Elijah Hughes or the recently acquired Thomas — unless the player that becomes available is a clear upgrade. They would probably make room for someone like Porter. They likely wouldn’t for someone like Jabari Parker or Jalen Lecque, both waived on Thursday to accommodate other roster moves.
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Be stuid to cut Morgan. Hughes has never made any sense from the time the drafted him with no 3 point shot or great length or athleticism when they had a better version in Wright Forman already and not promoting Brantley and giving Hughes a guarantee next year. They aren't cutting him sadly. Would have to be Ersan probably which again signing him for the whole year will look bad if they do and they need him more than at least a few guys since they have no PF! The guy they just got which again give up a 2nd and cut him! Or Niang who probably won't be back next year but sad to just cut a rotation player who plays D unlike much of the rotation.
[QUOTE][B]#2 Suns.[/B] Phoenix stood pat, with All-Star Devin Booker telling media on Wednesday, “I think we’re good over here.” And the Suns are good: they own the #8 offense and #5 defense. They already added Torrey Craig, and they are finally healthy after some missed time from Dario Saric and some of their rotation guards.
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Craig not standing pat