Re: LeBron's Vertical Revealed
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]So we've pretty much brought the best gifs/pics out for both LeBron and Jordan, and people still won't admit LeBron can jump higher/further and with more power?[/QUOTE]
How many times do we have to go over this before you understand?
Lebron is a far worse leaper off two feet, so how can he be a better leaper than Jordan?
And while Jordan is a far superior leaper off two feet, he is also equal to Lebron off one foot, so that makes him a better leaper overall.
From now on, just say "Lebron is a great leaper off one leg."... This is the only statement that is accurate.
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[QUOTE=3ball]How many times do we have to go over this before you understand?
Lebron is a poor leaper off two feet in comparison to Jordan,[B] while Jordan equals Lebron off one leg,[/B] so that makes Jordan the better leaper overall.
So stop saying Lebron is a better leaper - he sucks leaping off two legs compared to Jordan, so that kills your assertion right there.
From now on, just say "Lebron is a great leaper off one leg."... This is the only statement that is accurate.[/QUOTE]
And where exactly is the proof for this? We've seen legit pictures/videos of Lebron getting his head ABOVE rim level.
Show us one of MJ. Just one clear-cut, indisputable picture of MJ getting his head clearly over the rim, like mouth at rim level. None of the weird, misleading angles. Something like this, where it's 100% clear:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL5ORg9CAAAWa6C.jpg[/IMG]
[COLOR="White"]Now let's wait for you to spam the same pictures and gifs that I was talking about earlier.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=Milbuck]And where exactly is the proof for this? We've seen legit pictures/videos of Lebron getting his head ABOVE rim level.
Show us one of MJ. Just one clear-cut, indisputable picture of MJ getting his head clearly over the rim, like mouth at rim level. None of the weird, misleading angles. Something like this, where it's 100% clear:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BL5ORg9CAAAWa6C.jpg[/IMG]
[COLOR="White"]Now let's wait for you to spam the same pictures and gifs that I was talking about earlier.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
3ball, the man with a million gifs [B]"conveniently" [/B]can't provide anything regarding this:roll:
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Aren't verticals measured from a stand still jump off of two feet? At least that's how it was when I was in high school
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[QUOTE=3ball]You want me to get a picture of Jordan like the one above, but those in-game angles didn't exist in Jordan's day.
[B]All we have is the picture of Jordan mouth-level with the rim (you claim it is distorted, whereas I think that to anyone not blind, the picture shows Jordan's head well above the rim).[/B]
But regardless of that picture, there is another way to measure the one-foot leaping ability of Jordan and Lebron - compare DISTANCE - how far they took off from... We have numerous instances of Jordan dunking from the free-throw line off one leg, WHICH EQUALS THE BEST LEBRON HAS EVER DONE, only Jordan has done it [I]numerous[/I] times, both in games and in dunk competitions.
So again, Jordan equals Lebron at leaping off one leg (whether we measure by distance or height), but is far superior off two legs, which makes him the better leaper overall, which would explain why he is able to dunk over and through guys so much more often.[/QUOTE]
He is not mouth level in that....there's a million dunk pictures at that angle that look similar and are not mouth level..............your desperation and blatant disregard of the facts is almost pitiful.
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I'll disprove your stupidity right now 3ball:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3qMJCS4Xck&t=3m45s[/url]
Jordan looks rim level there right? Well look at the replay at 3:55....angles can play a lot of tricks.
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305 replies about ****ing verticals......GOD this forum is horrible most of the time.....First time I've even clicked on this thread....Who gives a shit anyway.......
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[QUOTE=eliteballer]He is not mouth level in that....there's a million dunk pictures at that angle that look similar and are not mouth level..............your desperation and blatant disregard of the facts is almost pitiful.[/QUOTE]
Anyone not blind will agree that his head clears the rim easily in that picture.. period.. your denial of this makes you look bad... it's like denying the sky is blue... the picture couldn't be more clear... other respected posters feel he is likely that high up, based not only on his head being over the rim in the picture, but also how high his feet are in relation to the defender.
Also, I'm being completely logical when I suggested that since we don't have the same great angles to measure Jordan's height that we have for Lebron, we can look at DISTANCE to measure their respective one-foot leaping ability, since that is another accurate way to compare leaping.
And when you look at DISTANCE, Jordan clearly equals Lebron off one leg... :confusedshrug: ... how can you argue with this??
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As I thought, nothing but the same recycled bullshit, referencing that dumb misleadingly angled pic that everyone has called you out on.
Lebron doing something better than Jordan shouldn't burn you up this severely...we're just talking about verticals here :oldlol:
Say it with me..."Lebron jumps higher off one foot than Jordan."
Repeat.
Repeat again.
Keep repeating.
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[QUOTE=Milbuck]As I thought, nothing but the same recycled bullshit, referencing that dumb misleadingly angled pic that everyone has called you out on.
Lebron doing something better than Jordan shouldn't burn you up this severely...we're talking about verticals here :oldlol:
Say it with me..."Lebron jumps higher off one foot than Jordan."
Repeat.
Repeat again.
Keep repeating.[/QUOTE]
Jordan is the better leaper, but unfortunately, we don't have the great angles to show the height on Jordan's jumping like we have for Lebron - but that one picture that we do have is completely legit and other respected posters agree, despite your denial.
More importantly, Lebron has never exceeded Jordan's FT line dunk, which is clear-cut evidence that he DOESN'T jump higher off one leg.
And why are we only talking about one-foot leaping?... What is your response to the fact that Jordan's is the far better leaper off two legs?
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[QUOTE=3ball]Unfortunately, we don't have the great angles to show the height on Jordan's jumping like we have for Lebron - [B]but that one picture that we do have is completely legit and other respected posters agree[/B], despite your denial.[/QUOTE]
No it's not, and no they didn't.
You can't find ONE clear visual example...and I'm the one in denial :oldlol:
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More importantly, Lebron has never exceeded Jordan's FT line dunk, which is clear-cut evidence that he DOESN'T jump higher off one leg... :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/js6684/LBJ-Dunk-vs-Bucks.gif[/IMG]
Dude jumps from [I]just[/I] inside the FT line and his head is still close to hitting the rim. This is more impressive athletically than any of MJ's FT line dunks...Bron could've jumped from a foot out and still finished the dunk.
You said there were numerous in-game FT line dunks for MJ. Let's see those.
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And from what i can tell, Lebron has only dunked from the FT line one time ever.
Jordan jumped high enough to do it many times, both in games and in contests... AND he cocks it all the way back (bending his arm), whereas Lebron has to fully extend with a straight arm for his one FT line dunk.
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i got some gif's for you though... gimme a sec
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[QUOTE=3ball]i got some gif's for you though... gimme a sec[/QUOTE]
And yet zero showing MJ's head over the rim :oldlol: