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[QUOTE=thejumpa][IMG]http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Lakers-Not-Offering-Enough-for-Dwight-Howard.jpg[/IMG]
Been telling my LA buddies this for the longest. Dwight will not be traded to the Lakers anytime soon.[/QUOTE]
Almost sounds like the Lakers best offer was Odom and MWP for him.
[QUOTE=talkingconch]Doesn't this make it better for the Lakers then?[/QUOTE]
i guess, but they would still need to clear cap space to sign him right ? amnesty gasol ?
[QUOTE=talkingconch]Doesn't this make it better for the Lakers then?[/QUOTE]
Nope the lakers don't have the cap room to sign Howard unless howard is willing to take a massive pay cut
[QUOTE=thejumpa][IMG]http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Lakers-Not-Offering-Enough-for-Dwight-Howard.jpg[/IMG]
Been telling my LA buddies this for the longest. Dwight will not be traded to the Lakers anytime soon.[/QUOTE]
That's one ballsy GM.
[QUOTE=El Kabong]Almost sounds like the Lakers best offer was Odom and MWP for him.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Even the Utah Jazz have lots of trade assets compared to the LA Lakers. They actually have enough young talents that might get the attention of the Magic and Hornets front offices.
Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap for Dwight Howard
Devin Harris, Draft rights of Enes Kanter (3rd overall pick), Mehmet Okur's expiring contract for CP3.
C- Dwight Howard
F- Derrick Favors
SF- Gordon Hayward/Jeremy Evans
SG- CJ Miles (FA)/Alec Burks/Raja Bell
PG- Chris Paul
It sucks that both of these players wants to play on a big market team. Dwight Howard and CP3 + a younger supporting casts>>> Boozer and Deron.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Even the Utah Jazz have lots of trade assets compared to the LA Lakers. They actually have enough young talents that might get the attention of the Magic and Hornets front offices.
Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap for Dwight Howard
Devin Harris, Draft rights of Enes Kanter (3rd overall pick), Mehmet Okur's expiring contract for CP3.
C- Dwight Howard
F- Derrick Favors
SF- Gordon Hayward/Jeremy Evans
SG- CJ Miles (FA)/Alec Burks/Raja Bell
PG- Chris Paul
It sucks that both of these players wants to play on a big market team. Dwight Howard and CP3 + a younger supporting casts>>> Boozer and Deron.[/QUOTE]
Are you stupid or just acting stupid?
CP3 & DHO aren't going to sign an extension with the Jazz or some other shit team.
The only teams who have a shot @ these two are the Lakers & the Knicks.
And I can see Boston&Prokhorov gambling but that's it. And the Clippers are just delusional.
Im assuming Bynum was offered to the Magic for Howard. How is Bynum plus some old trash worse than letting him walk for nothing?
Look at the Cavs now. Im sure they would have rather taken a good young player than let LeBron leave for nothing.
LOL NBA GMs also said Grizzlies wouldnt trade Pau for a scrub like Kwame Brown and another scrub named Javaris Shitterton, but Kupchak backhanded the league and made it happen, looks like he's going to do it again
[QUOTE=Lebron23]:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Even the Utah Jazz have lots of trade assets compared to the LA Lakers. They actually have enough young talents that might get the attention of the Magic and Hornets front offices.
Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap for Dwight Howard
Devin Harris, Draft rights of Enes Kanter (3rd overall pick), Mehmet Okur's expiring contract for CP3.
C- Dwight Howard
F- Derrick Favors
SF- Gordon Hayward/Jeremy Evans
SG- CJ Miles (FA)/Alec Burks/Raja Bell
PG- Chris Paul
It sucks that both of these players wants to play on a big market team. Dwight Howard and CP3 + a younger supporting casts>>> Boozer and Deron.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it sucks. I'm sure if you had the choice of NY, LA and Utah you'd run to Utah. Why wouldn't they both want to go live in Salt Lake City?
Can someone explain why the Hornets are even entertaining Bynum or Gasol? THEY NEED TO SUCK, get the first pick, have a new star by opening day next year. They need their other big contracts off the books. They do not need a bunch of marginal pieces to make themselves decent. NO ONE WANTS TO BE DECENT. You want to win a title or suck.
[QUOTE=thejumpa][IMG]http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Lakers-Not-Offering-Enough-for-Dwight-Howard.jpg[/IMG]
Been telling my LA buddies this for the longest. Dwight will not be traded to the Lakers anytime soon.[/QUOTE]
The Lakers could offer Bynum (young center with loads of upside) on an expiring contract. They could also throw in Odom on an expiring contract and somebody like Blake (reasonable contract for 12 million over the next 3 years)....and they would take back Howard and Hedo.
I don't see how that is a bad deal at all for the Magic. They get at least something back for Howard and get to shed Hedo's bad contract. They also get two quality players back with only 1 year left on their deals. Lets be clear....If this version of Andrew Bynum was in the upcoming draft...he'd probably be the the first pick. At worst he'd be a top 3 pick. The Magic could rent him for a year and see what he's actually capable of. If they don't like him, just let him go.
I just don't see how that is bad. Bynum is about as good as you are going to do as a player to replace Howard...and the Lakers obviously would be willing to take back Hedo's contract.
The real idiot is the GM that thinks letting Howard walk and not shedding Hedo's contract in a trade is the smart business decision. That is honestly all that matters. Howard is clearly gone....the Magic have to use that to their advantage and at least get rid of Arenas or Hedo in the process. I'm assuming nobody would take Arenas, so Hedo is the guy.
Bynum, Odom, and Blake for Howard and Hedo is a fine deal. Especially since there are so few teams Howard is likely to agree to stay with.
[QUOTE=niko]Can someone explain why the Hornets are even entertaining Bynum or Gasol? THEY NEED TO SUCK, get the first pick, have a new star by opening day next year. They need their other big contracts off the books. They do not need a bunch of marginal pieces to make themselves decent. NO ONE WANTS TO BE DECENT. You want to win a title or suck.[/QUOTE]
Gasol doesn't make sense. But Bynum does. I will say it again. The current version of Bynum would go in the top 3 of the upcoming draft at worst. He'd probably be the first pick. Why not rent him for a year and see what he's got? Its not like he alone is going to make a team great anyway. He's on an expiring deal as well.
I don't think the Hornets or Magic can do much better than Bynum on an expiring contract for their superstars. Best case scenario Bynum flourishes and starts tapping into some of that potential and they keep him. Worst case scenario is that they don't want to keep him and either move him at the deadline or let him walk in the summer. Either way its better than letting your star player just walk in the summer.
The main goal of the Hornets and Magic should be to use trading Paul and Howard as a means to get rid of Okafor and Hedo. That is really the main thing. Howard and Paul are gone....it sucks, but its reality. The worst thing they can do is let them ruin their teams for a year and make the playoffs and piss off fans and not get something back or at least rid of garbage contracts.
Keeping them makes almost no sense at all unless one of the teams has the ability to drastically improve the roster this year. And I just don't think thats possible.
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Gasol doesn't make sense. But Bynum does. I will say it again. The current version of Bynum would go in the top 3 of the upcoming draft at worst. He'd probably be the first pick. Why not rent him for a year and see what he's got? Its not like he alone is going to make a team great anyway. He's on an expiring deal as well.
I don't think the Hornets or Magic can do much better than Bynum on an expiring contract for their superstars. Best case scenario Bynum flourishes and starts tapping into some of that potential and they keep him. Worst case scenario is that they don't want to keep him and either move him at the deadline or let him walk in the summer. Either way its better than letting your star player just walk in the summer.
The main goal of the Hornets and Magic should be to use trading Paul and Howard as a means to get rid of Okafor and Hedo. That is really the main thing. Howard and Paul are gone....it sucks, but its reality. The worst thing they can do is let them ruin their teams for a year and make the playoffs and piss off fans and not get something back or at least rid of garbage contracts.
Keeping them makes almost no sense at all unless one of the teams has the ability to drastically improve the roster this year. And I just don't think thats possible.[/QUOTE]
I get Bynum more for Orlando who doesn't seem to have the patience to do a true reover. But for NO, it makes more sense to get the first pick in the draft, and start with him. as opposed to Bynum, who is an iffy injury risk. Orlando can afford the risk, NO cannot. For NO, rebuilding with a young star (draft pick) and clearling out as many contracts as possible is tye play. NO needs to SUCK. This is a great draft. getting enough pieices to ensure you are not a top 1-3 type pick makes no sense at all.
NO needs to stop trying to win the trade and instead make a trade that sets them up going forward the best.
[QUOTE=niko]I get Bynum more for Orlando who doesn't seem to have the patience to do a true reover. But for NO, it makes more sense to get the first pick in the draft, and start with him. as opposed to Bynum, who is an iffy injury risk. Orlando can afford the risk, NO cannot. For NO, rebuilding with a young star (draft pick) and clearling out as many contracts as possible is tye play. NO needs to SUCK. This is a great draft. getting enough pieices to ensure you are not a top 1-3 type pick makes no sense at all.
NO needs to stop trying to win the trade and instead make a trade that sets them up going forward the best.[/QUOTE]
But Paul won't go to a team for the first pick....that is the problem. No team is going to just trade the first pick for a player they aren't sure they can keep.
Paul/Howard want to go to contenders. They have all the power now because they are free agents after this year. Its the Melo situation all over again.
You keep saying NO needs to suck...I totally agree. Keeping Paul does not help them suck. They need to do 2 things:
1. Trade Paul as quickly as possible
2. Make sure they get rid of Okafor in that same deal
That is really all that matters. Trust me, if they get rid of both of those guys...they will suck.
Me personally, I would just rather take a chance on Bynum this year. I'm high on him....especially in the last year of his contract....and especially because other teams will be willing to go after him at the deadline if the Hornets want to move him.
Paul/Howard are not going to stay with crap teams. They want to play in a big market with a chance to compete for a title. That limits the Hornets options greatly for trades.
Like you said...they need to suck. Getting rid of Paul helps them do that. They won't get equal value back....hell, they shouldn't want it.
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Gasol doesn't make sense. But Bynum does. I will say it again. The current version of Bynum would go in the top 3 of the upcoming draft at worst. He'd probably be the first pick. Why not rent him for a year and see what he's got? Its not like he alone is going to make a team great anyway. He's on an expiring deal as well.
I don't think the Hornets or Magic can do much better than Bynum on an expiring contract for their superstars. Best case scenario Bynum flourishes and starts tapping into some of that potential and they keep him. Worst case scenario is that they don't want to keep him and either move him at the deadline or let him walk in the summer. Either way its better than letting your star player just walk in the summer.
The main goal of the Hornets and Magic should be to use trading Paul and Howard as a means to get rid of Okafor and Hedo. That is really the main thing. Howard and Paul are gone....it sucks, but its reality. The worst thing they can do is let them ruin their teams for a year and make the playoffs and piss off fans and not get something back or at least rid of garbage contracts.
Keeping them makes almost no sense at all unless one of the teams has the ability to drastically improve the roster this year. And I just don't think thats possible.[/QUOTE]
The Orlando GM don't want to let LA acquire another dominant Center. They are probably planning to tank in the 2012 NBA Season, and draft a guy that's younger, more skilled, and less injury prone than Andrew Bynum.
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