Michael Jordan memo to Kobe Bryant:

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy][I]Michael Jordan memo to Kobe Bryant:

[QUOTE=lilgodfather1][B]Because Jordan is the best evaluator of talent[/B]... In fact MJ believing that the DT would win makes me believe that 2012 would destroy them because he is such a bad basketball mnd.[/QUOTE]
that is all kobe has to say.

[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]you got links for all the other times jordan sonned kobe?[/QUOTE]

yeah i got one here for you

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iHXoUl5bmo[/url]

mj sonned him hard

Nostalgia is awesome.

wow 8 pages long? lol

this is when 40 year old jordan sonned kobe
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UupUDYeNqQ[/url]

92 jordan would rape 2012 kobe....never let him touch the basketball!

[QUOTE=Remix]Magic would have fits with defending Westbrook. Especially the 1992 version of Magic.[/QUOTE]

How so??

John Stockton, Magic Johnson would have a field day...your talking bout the greatest stealer and one of the best ever in history....

Westbrook would have his passes and be stripped day and night especially by John Stockton....man averaged over 3 steals in his prime...

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[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]Oh and one more thing. Michael Jordan is the last person to try and evaluate any kind of talent or another player's ability. Let's be for real. Michael Jordan basically said Adam Morrison was better than Brandon Roy and Rudy Gay. This is the same man that basically said Kwame Brown was better than Gilbert Arenas, Pau Gasol, Tyson Chandler and freaking Joe Johnson! Cmon son. How you gonna listen to him. The only thing he can say is who he's better than. That's about it.[/QUOTE]

Just noticed that somebody else mentioned Jordan's skill level when it comes to evaluating talent so i wanted to see what you folks would say about this lol. Just cause Jordan says it's "No comparison" makes me think the current team would win lol.

[QUOTE=DatAsh]Maybe YOU should do some research before stating something as a fact that is not even close to being a fact.[/QUOTE]

I don't know which article on b-ball reference it's called but... 2002 Jordan was part of a list of the Top 20 inefficient 20ppg scoring seasons.

He might not have been the least efficient, but it was close enough to being a fact.

[QUOTE=RaininTwos]Kobe is a better shooter, [B]better off ball defender and just as good in one on one situations[/B], plus his post game is all time nasty.[/QUOTE]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on inside hoops. Say what you want to say anonymously on the internet, but after reading something like the above quote, I(and anyone who's over 28-30) won't believe you when you say you watched Jordan play. You're either incredibly biased, or you're making assumptions based off an incomplete knowledge base.

As for the Kobe vs Jordan comparison that OldSchool made, most of what you bolded in the top part is absolutely true. The fact that you think it's not tells anyone who's seen both players play that you never saw Jordan play. The only thing I really disagree with their is that Jordan was a much greater rebounder than Kobe.

Defense - On ball lock down defense is fairly close though prime Jordan has a slight advantage due to his superior athleticism. Off ball defense is a clear advantage to Jordan. Watch the way Jordan fights through screens. Watch the way he almost gets in fights with his man just to keep him from getting the ball (Kobe did this on occasion, but it wasn't a constant like it was with Jordan). Help defense is another clear edge to Jordan. Jordan had a much better knack for knowing WHEN to help than Kobe did, and it even shows in their stats,

Rebounding - This is close, and this is the only part that was really wrong with OldSchools analysis IMO. Jordan was a slightly better rebounder prime vs prime, but lets not pretend it isn't close. Looking at their TRB%, Jordan does have a clear edge, but where talking 9-10% vs 7-8%.

Passing/Playmaking - Again, anyone who's seen both players play(which you "claim" to have) would know that Jordan has a somewhat small but clear advantage here as well. In terms of pure passing ability, Kobe is probably Jordan's equal, if not superior. What makes Jordan the better passer/playmaker was his superior ability to draw the double off penetration and kick it out to the open man. Jordan was also the more willing passer.

Post-Game - This one is close too, but Jordan still gets the nod. Kobe is a fantastic post player, and possibly one of the best guards of all time, but Jordan was still better. Footwork is probably close, with Kobe having a slight edge, but Jordan's superior agility/strength allowed him to to more easily blow by his man to get to the basket, and also allowed him to get more separation on his turn around jumper. Ultimately, Jordan was the more effective player in the post. Stats, and the unbiased eye test back this up.

10% Overall impact difference? - I would say that's about right. Do you think that's an exaggeration.


All of this is talk is pretty meaningless though, as it assumes were talking prime Jordan vs prime Kobe. The more relevant discussion with regards to this thread is prime Jordan vs past prime Kobe, and there is certainly a >10% difference in overall impact there.

Alphawolf24 had easily the two dumbest remarks in this thread with these two doozies...

Kobe=MJ- come on, prime MJ vs old ass Kobe?:roll: prime MJ>>>prime Kobe

"Drexler is basically a worse Danny Granger".-:facepalm

Basketball isn't your fort

[QUOTE=TheMan]Alphawolf24 had easily the two dumbest remarks in this thread with these two doozies...

Kobe=MJ- come on, prime MJ vs old ass Kobe?:roll: prime MJ>>>prime Kobe

"Drexler is basically a worse Danny Granger".-:facepalm[/QUOTE]

I actually overlooked the Kobe/MJ one.

I've been stuck on the Drexler being a worse Danny Granger. I've been staring at it. I can't get past it lol.

[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I don't know which article on b-ball reference it's called but... 2002 Jordan was part of a list of the Top 20 inefficient 20ppg scoring seasons.

He might not have been the least efficient, but it was close enough to being a fact.[/QUOTE]

He didn't say it was one of the least efficient(which I wouldn't have disagreed with), he said THE least efficient. You'd have to be pretty dense to think that 20ppg on 44.5% is the least efficient >20ppg season of all time. Hell, that would have been GREAT efficiency in the 50s/60s.

[QUOTE=Mr Exlax]I actually overlooked the Kobe/MJ one.

I've been stuck on the Drexler being a worse Danny Granger. I've been staring at it. I can't get past it lol.[/QUOTE]
He either likes the attention his idiocy brings him or just not a serious poster.