TRADE: Luka Doncic to Lakers, Anthony Davis to Mavericks

[QUOTE=tpols;14975776]With Lebron dropping 40 and 30 point triple doubles this Laker team might actually be dangerous. He's averaging basically the same numbers he put up in his prime, a couple less points but completely made up for by more assists.

[B]Basically it's prime Lebron + prime Luka. [/B]In LA where they be parade around and get the Pat Mahomes treatment in critical games.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Chiefs and Lakers won the respective championships. It's a money script. That's what the owners want and will try to influence. Only hope is somebody bucks the system ala 2011 Dallas. (ironically for this thread)[/QUOTE]

Prime Lebron at his best played defense on top of the offensive production, so not really. He can still produce, and the more I think about it the actual fit with Luka may not be as bad as I first thought, because I can see Lebron playing alot of pinch post area and working the baseline. He's going to get alot of assisted baskets from Luka if they give him full control. So there are still some stylistic similarities, but the difference from when he paired with Wade and later Westbrook is Luka can shoot. At this point Lebron should be morphing into more of a Karl Malone style circa 95 onwards.

But the biggest issue right now with them is obvious, AD was the heart and soul of their defense. The actual redundant player in all this may be Reaves, and I'm wondering if they will try to package him with Rui and a pick for a decent defensive big. Wouldn't also be the worst move to pick up Dwight Howard for pennies on the dollar if he can still provide 10-12 minutes of solid rebounding and defense, at least to get you through the rest of the season.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14975782]James is definitely not in his prime. Just this very season he took a week or two off. He is still capable of dominating a game but he's not going to dominate a season because at 40 he needs breaks. If Doncic was healthy right now and could be expected to almost never miss games so that James can take it easy until the playoffs they may have something dangerous but if James is going to have to regularly give that kind of effort he's not going to have enough left to get them past the Thunder or Nuggets.

Additionally the lake defense when Reeves Doncic and James are on the floor together will be terrible until and unless they get a great perimeter defender and a shot blocker. Lakers do have a strong foundation to build off of but they've only got two days to patch up the holes in their roster.[/QUOTE]

Lebron doesn't need to dominate the season. Luka will be back on Saturday and the Lakers already have a great record so he can pretty much coast and recharge til the playoffs.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14975788]"Warriorman?" Are you lying for the benefit of other posters? I banned your dumb ass because you demanded I do a better job as a mod. Keep your dumb shit to yourself when you're stealing the cupful at 3am and I'll ignore you like I do most of the morons.[/QUOTE]

You banned a gimmick account called “warriorman” and extended the ban you gave me after I told you go shove a teriyaki stick up your ass.

It was obvious I was not the account warriormn but you are literally a fat idiot who can’t do any sort of due diligence and had some paranoid ideation that I was avoiding your ban.

You are fat, incompetent, and low iq.

[QUOTE=tpols;14975791]Lebron doesn't need to dominate the season. Luka will be back on Saturday and the [B]Lakers already have a great record[/B] so he can pretty much coast and recharge til the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

Minny and the Clippers are both within striking difference, the latter especially with Kawhi back( though for how long is anyone's guess). I'm not sure they should be coasting as much as trying to get the 4th seed or at least hold onto the 5th. Then again, dropping to 6th or 7th could line them up against Houston and the Grizzlies and those teams are young. I'd take the Lakers in either situation.

[QUOTE=tpols;14975791]Lebron doesn't need to dominate the season. Luka will be back on Saturday and the Lakers already have a great record so he can pretty much coast and recharge til the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

Doncic is believed to have gotten hurt largely due to his poor conditioning. He may fix that problem by next season but it's impossible for him to have gotten in proper shape while rehabbing. He'll be in and out and the Lakers still only have two days to get the necessary defensive help.

And another xfactor that may or may not be worked out quickly is how James and Doncic will play together. The first year with the Heat James and Wade weren't sure how they would work together and Doncic and James will be trying to figure it out in half a season with no training camp.

If they do something like trading for Robert Williams (and he stays healthy) and finds a great perimeter defender I could see them taking the West but it's more likely going to take them a full offseason to make the needed moves. They got lucky with Dallas calling them up and offering Doncic. And it still took a few weeks. Don't expect the other deals to be that easy.

[QUOTE=Phoenix;14975794]Minny and the Clippers are both within striking difference, the latter especially with Kawhi back( though for how long is anyone's guess). I'm not sure they should be coasting as much as trying to get the 4th seed or at least hold onto the 5th. Then again, dropping to 6th or 7th could line them up against Houston and the Grizzlies and those teams are young. I'd take the Lakers in either situation.[/QUOTE]

Home court advantage isn't necessary but stay out of the play-in. Basketball is a game where the best team doesn't always win, an ankle injury that normally takes Doncic or James out for two or three games would end their season.

AD and LeBron both for Luka would’ve been way more interesting IMO.

If Dallas added Davis and LeBron would they be favorites?

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14975796]Doncic is believed to have gotten hurt largely due to his poor conditioning. [B]He may fix that problem by next season but it's impossible for him to have gotten in proper shape while rehabbing.[/B] He'll be in and out and the Lakers still only have two days to get the necessary defensive help.

And another xfactor that may or may not be worked out quickly is how James and Doncic will play together. The first year with the Heat James and Wade weren't sure how they would work together and Doncic and James will be trying to figure it out in half a season with no training camp.

If they do something like trading for Robert Williams (and he stays healthy) and finds a great perimeter defender I could see them taking the West but it's more likely going to take them a full offseason to make the needed moves. They got lucky with Dallas calling them up and offering Doncic. And it still took a few weeks. Don't expect the other deals to be that easy.[/QUOTE]


We don't know all of the inside information regarding that so everything you're saying here is pure speculation. Luka may have been straight up holding out because he didn't like his bosses and was openly disrespecting them in meetings. He's the "bad boy" remember? That doesn't end off the court.

None of this stuff is spontaneous or without reason. Obviously something went down behind the scenes and they covered it up.

Honestly the Lakers look fine recently. Adding Luka will let Lebron take a backseat until the PS and be 100% fresh. To me, they are the second most dangerous team in the West after OKC. All other teams have bigger question marks than the Lakers. Winning a ring without more moves will not be easy but not impossible IMO. One or two injuries say SGA goes down and then they face the Knicks in the Finals...

tpols still claiming 40 year old LeBron is in his prime :lol

[QUOTE=dankok8;14975812]Honestly the Lakers look fine recently. Adding Luka will let Lebron take a backseat until the PS and be 100% fresh. To me, they are the second most dangerous team in the West after OKC. All other teams have bigger question marks than the Lakers. Winning a ring without more moves will not be easy but not impossible IMO. One or two injuries say SGA goes down and then they face the Knicks in the Finals...[/QUOTE]

That's exactly what I'm saying. Lebron and Luka can even take turns on the way there with load management. They're going to be fresh as **** come playoffs and are probably aiming to face Houston.

[QUOTE=tpols;14975808]We don't know all of the inside information regarding that so everything you're saying here is pure speculation. Luka may have been straight up holding out because he didn't like his bosses and was openly disrespecting them in meetings. He's the "bad boy" remember? That doesn't end off the court.

None of this stuff is spontaneous or without reason. Obviously something went down behind the scenes and they covered it up.[/QUOTE]

Doncic's bad conditioning isn't just me speculating it's known fact. He is chubby. "Bad boy" Luka disrespecting his bosses is the rumor and speculation here.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14975813]tpols still claiming 40 year old LeBron is in his prime :lol[/QUOTE]

Ya that's crazy haha

But still a super fresh old Lebron has to scare the league. Who's to say he can't play at 80% of prime Lebron level for 20 games. Like maybe only a slightly worse version of bubble Lebron. It's possible...

Old lebron with Davis and Kyrie in Dallas could’ve been scary.

Old lebron with just Luka on this weak Lakers team is gonna disappoint for sure.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14975813]tpols still claiming 40 year old LeBron is in his prime :lol[/QUOTE]

Lebron spends millions of dollars taking care of himself every year while MJ used to smoke, drink, and gamble to an extreme degree.

He is still in his prime and the statistics support it which is why you and Pheonix have no metric based argument... just emojis and one liners.

Luka is going to allow Lebron to rest more than ever.