Better at basketball, Jokić or Kobe?

[QUOTE=Baller234;15031731]I think you're emotional when it comes to Lebron. I think you grew up watching him and feel attachment to him. Kobe is one of the few players who often gets tossed around in the discussion with him so you feel obligated to tarnish his name in Lebron's honor and create some distance between them.

Meanwhile it's the opposite for me. I rooted against Kobe his entire career. Was never much of a fan.[/QUOTE]
Nah I rank MJ ahead of LeBron. And I can see a case for Kareem. Peak wise you could argue Shaq and Wilt were better than LeBron. I think guys like Curry and Jokic are pretty damn close to LeBron, Curry actually made me question if LeBron was the best player I’d ever seen for a brief time in 2016. I think Wembanyama has the potential to be better than LeBron too. Kobe just was really far behind in terms of impact compared to the guys we’re talking about. I’d say Kobe is in the top 12 or so (for now, Jokic and Giannis may surpass him with enough longevity) but you are trying to put him in the top 2 which is crazy.

[QUOTE=LAL;15031735]Prime lebron was pure athleticism and even worse at basketball than now? Do you even know who you stan?

10 times better at basketball than mr FLAWS

shame on you bron fanboi, asking these dumb questions.[/QUOTE]
You think LeBron was worse in his prime than he is at 40 and you’re calling me dumb? :yaohappy:

[QUOTE=RRR3;15031738]You think LeBron was worse in his prime than he is at 40 and you’re calling me dumb? :yaohappy:[/QUOTE]

Better-at-basketball

Still stiff as ****, lost his athleticism but improved SOME things BBALL wise compared to his younger version where it couldn't get worse lol.

[QUOTE=LAL;15031740]Better-at-basketball

Still stiff as ****, lost his athleticism but improved SOME things BBALL wise compared to his younger version where it couldn't get worse lol.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I get that you’re really stupid but athleticism is a big part of basketball. Or else we’d say Chris Paul was the best ever.

[QUOTE=RRR3;15031737]Nah I rank MJ ahead of LeBron. And I can see a case for Kareem. Peak wise you could argue Shaq and Wilt were better than LeBron. I think guys like Curry and Jokic are pretty damn close to LeBron, Curry actually made me question if LeBron was the best player I’d ever seen for a brief time in 2016. I think Wembanyama has the potential to be better than LeBron too. Kobe just was really far behind in terms of impact compared to the guys we’re talking about. I’d say Kobe is in the top 12 or so (for now, Jokic and Giannis may surpass him with enough longevity) but you are trying to put him in the top 2 which is crazy.[/QUOTE]

Holy shit just when I thought you couldn't get any more retarded.

I didn't predict you would be so eager to put others ahead of Lebron. Respect for that I suppose. Didn't see that coming.

Would have never thought I had more respect for your hero than you did, and this is coming from someone who genuinely doesn't like Bron as a person. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=RRR3;15031741]Yeah I get that you’re really stupid but athleticism is a big part of basketball. Or else we’d say Chris Paul was the best ever.[/QUOTE]

We're judging by bball abilities not physical abilities. Good job 3tard i bet you're still blown away like a 12 year old by his one hand break away dunks

[QUOTE=Baller234;15031742]Holy shit just when I thought you couldn't get any more retarded.

I didn't predict you would be so eager to put others ahead of Lebron. Respect for that I suppose. Didn't see that coming.

Would have never thought I had more respect for your hero than you did, and this is coming from someone who genuinely doesn't like Bron as a person. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
What did I say that was crazy? Having MJ over LeBron and thinking Shaq and Wilt had arguably goat peaks is pretty common.

[QUOTE=LAL;15031744]We're judging by bball abilities not physical abilities. Good job 3tard i bet you're still blown away like a 12 year old by his one hand break away dunks[/QUOTE]
Physical abilities are part of basketball :hammerhead:

Why do you think Giannis is so good?

[IMG]https://cdn.nba.com/manage/2020/01/lebron-iso-flex-scaled.jpg[/IMG]

Losing and flexing after transition dunks.

Better AT basketball. I don't know why you bring up Giannis, there's many many people better AT basketball, there your answer.

And what makes Giannis great is a different discussion.

[QUOTE=LAL;15031749]Better AT basketball. I don't know why you bring up Giannis, there's many many people better AT basketball, there your answer.

And what makes Giannis great is a different discussion.[/QUOTE]
No there are not many many people better than Giannis at basketball lol. Maybe ~20 in nba history. That’s not “many many”. You thinking athleticism has nothing to do with basketball is comical.

[QUOTE=LAL;15031749]Better AT basketball. I don't know why you bring up Giannis, there's many many people better AT basketball, there your answer.

And what makes Giannis great is a different discussion.[/QUOTE]What is the point of this exercise? If you break it down to fundamental skills- dribbling, shooting, passing- Jose Calderon is better than peak Shaq.

[QUOTE=j3lademaster;15031766]What is the point of this exercise? If you break it down to fundamental skills- dribbling, shooting, passing- Jose Calderon is better than peak Shaq.[/QUOTE]

He is.

And that was the question bro.

[QUOTE=LAL;15031768]He is.

And that was the question bro.[/QUOTE]
Yeah there’s more to basketball than just those skills though. Try telling anyone Jose Calderon was better at basketball than Shaq :lol

[QUOTE=RRR3;15031769]Yeah there’s more to basketball than just those skills though. Try telling anyone Jose Calderon was better at basketball than Shaq :lol[/QUOTE]

Better at basketball or better player?

It's your dumbass title bro