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[QUOTE=Lebron23]The Orlando GM don't want to let LA acquire another dominant Center. They are probably planning to tank in the 2012 NBA Season, and draft a guy that's younger, more skilled, and less injury prone than Andrew Bynum.
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SO they are going to tank the season by keeping Howard and not being in lottery? Or in order to screw the Lakers who play in the WC?
Neither of that makes any sense.
[QUOTE=niko]SO they are going to tank the season by keeping Howard and not being in lottery? Or in order to screw the Lakers who play in the WC?
Neither of that makes any sense.[/QUOTE]
The Lakers already screwed them in the mid 1990's when they signed Free Agent Shaq in the 1996 NBA Season. Otis Smith probably thinks that tanking in the 2012-2013 NBA Season is much better than acquiring an injury prone Center, and a 32 yrs.old PF.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]The Lakers already screwed them in the mid 1990's when they signed Free Agent Shaq in the 1996 NBA Season. In the mind of Otis Smith he probably thinks that tanking in the 2012-2013 NBA Season is much better than acquiring an injury prone Center, and a 32 yrs.old PF.[/QUOTE]
You make no sense at all. You are suggesting Orlando tank by keeping all their assets, or that they should make decisions based on ****ing over the Lakers. Neither of those things make sense. I HATE the Lakers but i don't want my Knicks making decisions based on what harms them. That's asinine.
[QUOTE=niko]You make no sense at all. You are suggesting Orlando tank by keeping all their assets, or that they should make decisions based on ****ing over the Lakers. Neither of those things make sense. I HATE the Lakers but i don't want my Knicks making decisions based on what harms them. That's asinine.[/QUOTE]
This is what I am trying to say.
Otis Smith don't want that garbage players on their team. . By letting Dwight become a free agent next year it leaves more room (salary cap) for them to sign some quality players in the off season. Magic don't have anything left to lose
[QUOTE=Lebron23]This is what I am trying to say.
Otis Smith don't want that garbage players on their team. . By letting Dwight become a free agent next year [B]it leaves more room (salary cap) for them to sign some quality players in the off season[/B]. Magic don't have anything left to lose[/QUOTE]
No it doesn't:facepalm
If you trade away Dwight with one of your horrible contracts. Get Bynum in return (who has 1 year left in his contract), see how he pans out. If good keep him if not get rid of him and start tanking for a #1 pick.
If you just let Dwight walk, you're left with some horrible contracts (Arenas & Turk in particular) and no one to build around.
Is that so hard to comprehend?
The only way I see this happening are if CP3 and Dwight both decline signing extensions with other teams that can offer more...and then the Lakers could perhaps has the best offer on the table. Honestly though, that's way too much power in the hands of players. I believe LA will get at least one of them, not both.
[QUOTE=D-Rose]The only way I see this happening are if CP3 and Dwight both decline signing extensions with other teams that can offer more...and then the Lakers could perhaps has the best offer on the table. Honestly though, that's way too much power in the hands of players. I believe LA will get at least one of them, not both.[/QUOTE]
Lakers' priority is Howard over CP3. Until the Magic make Howard available, which is inevitable IMO, I don't see the Lakers trading for CP3 in case they don't have the assets (Bynum or Gasol) to get Howard after that. And I really don't see the Magic settling for only one of those guys. Bynum and his potential is not that great anymore. I don't see why they wouldn't just rather let Howard walk or trade him somewhere else then settle for just Bynum. And Odom isn't that valuable anymore. If they get the chance to get an all-star and top 15 player in the league in Gasol, and the chance to shed one of their horrible contracts, thats a different story. So if that happens, they won't really have anything to offer NO for CP3.
So cross out the Lakers. The Clippers and Warriors won't do a trade that NO will accept unless CP3 signs an extension. Those franchises have not been great at all for 20-30 years so I don't see CP3 signing an extension. There's one team that has good assets and is willing to trade for him without the extension and thats the Celtics. I see CP3 getting traded there and playing there for 1-2 years and then signing with the Knicks.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]This is what I am trying to say.
Otis Smith don't want that garbage players on their team. . By letting Dwight become a free agent next year it leaves more room (salary cap) for them to sign some quality players in the off season. Magic don't have anything left to lose[/QUOTE]
That doesn't really make any sense. For one, if you're planning on tanking you would want to lose as many games as possible. Bynum gives you a better chance of doing that. You would also want to satisfy the fan base and give them a false sense of security... "Why yes, we are trying to rebuild." Bynum gives you that. Despite what many people here think, Bynum's an extremely talented player who would be a great coup if they have to trade Dwight Howard, assuming he can stay healthy. If he gets injured, they can always release him at the end of the season. Same result.
[QUOTE=D-Rose]The only way I see this happening are if CP3 and Dwight both decline signing extensions with other teams that can offer more...and then the Lakers could perhaps has the best offer on the table. Honestly though, that's way too much power in the hands of players. I believe LA will get at least one of them, not both.[/QUOTE]
I don't really see how we get either of them, but the Buss family has a history of pulling off these types of trades and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if one (or both) of them came our way.
At the end of last season I wanted the Lakers to keep Bynum, Gasol, and Odom together. I thought they'd come back more motivated this season and the Lakers would contend again. The lockout almost put any personal feelings for players aside and now I wanna see them go after bigger fish (if possible). Maybe Jim's the same way.
[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]That doesn't really make any sense. For one, if you're planning on tanking you would want to lose as many games as possible. Bynum gives you a better chance of doing that. You would also want to satisfy the fan base and give them a false sense of security... "Why yes, we are trying to rebuild." Bynum gives you that. Despite what many people here think, Bynum's an extremely talented player who would be a great coup if they have to trade Dwight Howard, assuming he can stay healthy. If he gets injured, they can always release him at the end of the season. Same result.[/QUOTE]
Nothing that robot says make sense. He is just afraid the Lakers get Howard, because he know things would get tougher for his boyfriend to finally win a ring.
[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]I don't really see how we get either of them, but the Buss family has a history of pulling off these types of trades and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if one (or both) of them came our way.
At the end of last season I wanted the Lakers to keep Bynum, Gasol, and Odom together. I thought they'd come back more motivated this season and the Lakers would contend again. The lockout almost put any personal feelings for players aside and now I wanna see them go after bigger fish (if possible). Maybe Jim's the same way.[/QUOTE]
I don't get this thought of keeping Howard for the season in order to just start over. That's basically starting over but also giving up an entire season. That's very counterintuitive.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]The Orlando GM don't want to let LA acquire another dominant Center. They are probably planning to tank in the 2012 NBA Season, and draft a guy that's younger, more skilled, and less injury prone than Andrew Bynum.
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You can't tank at all with the roster the magic have. Its a roster that might win 55 plus games (in an 82 game season)
That is the point of trading for a player like Bynum. You get back a player that would be a top 3 pick in the coming draft on an expiring contract. You also will be much worse this year so your draft pick is better. You also get to shed 1 of your terrible contracts.
Keeping Howard makes no sense unless the Magic know they can somehow keep him and revamp the roster over night. I don't see how that is possible.
Getting Howard is the one trade I have some hope for. Getting both him AND CP3 is simply not happening. Bynum and Odom for Dwight and Hedo isn't a bad deal.
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]You can't tank at all with the roster the magic have. Its a roster that might win 55 plus games (in an 82 game season)
That is the point of trading for a player like Bynum. You get back a player that would be a top 3 pick in the coming draft on an expiring contract. You also will be much worse this year so your draft pick is better. You also get to shed 1 of your terrible contracts.
Keeping Howard makes no sense unless the Magic know they can somehow keep him and revamp the roster over night. I don't see how that is possible.[/QUOTE]
This. Letting Howard expire is the stupidest thing the Magic could do. Even if they get Bynum and Odom I guarantee the Magic will still have a top 10 pick this year. The Magic could still ship out Jameer Nelson for more draft picks, combined with the picks from the Lakers and their own lottery pick and top 5 center in Bynum they could rebuild the right way. And even if they don't want Odom then involve a 3rd team in the trade like the Knicks.
How hard will Kobe haters laugh themselves to death if Kobe gets traded so the lakers can get both Dwight and CP3?