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[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/top/3917/0/Ranking-the-best-free-agent-signings-the-Utah-Jazz-have-ever-made.html[/url]
I wasn't a big Chambers fan but thought he was good for the Jazz
[QUOTE]Carr was a key acquisition for the Jazz even though he came to Utah late in his career. He spent four seasons in a Jazz uniform and was a huge part of both runs to the NBA Finals. [/QUOTE]
should have been gone after 2
[QUOTE]Eisley signed with the Jazz on multiple occasions[/QUOTE]
Sucked
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[url]http://saltcityhoops.com/jazz-add-three-plus-trade-rumors/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz can
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[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/14/sportsline-predicts-utah-jazz-to-win-38-3-games-next-season/[/url]
[QUOTE] SportsLine had the Jazz finishing the 2017-18 season with a measly 38.3 wins. That
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[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/14/calling-2015-derrick-favors-utah-jazz-need/[/url]
[QUOTE]Offensively and defensively, the Utah Jazz are going to need Derrick Favors to reach his full potential. If he can, the Jazz will have a chance to continue to compete in a loaded Western Conference.[/QUOTE]
if he does maybe they can get something for him in a trade
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684817/Moving-on-Utah-Jazz-ready-to-surprise-in-post-Hayward-era.html[/url]
[QUOTE]Lindsey pointed out that Hood
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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: SL over, the Jazz are hoping to sign Eric Griffin to a two-way contract, sources tell The Tribune. Griffin has other NBA interest as well
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[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/15/this-utah-jazz-team-mirrors-the-replacements-which-isnt-a-bad-thing/[/url]
[QUOTE]
First, we signed Thabo Sefolosha formerly of the Atlanta Hawks. Then, came Jonas Jerebko, whose last team was the Boston Celtics. Lastly, we plucked Ekpe Udoh from the Euroleague. All three of these men are from different countries, but all have one thing in common
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[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5511103-155/utah-jazz-refuse-to-back-down[/url]
[QUOTE]"We feel like we can build defensively around Rudy Gobert," Lindsey told The Tribune. "We look at him, and he's a top 10 player and unique defender. So we wanted to build a team around his talents."[/QUOTE]
Was also a top 5 offensive player especially when they surrounded him with 4 shooters. Why not get guys that can defend and spread the floor?
[QUOTE]We feel like we have a great player in Rudy, and we want to showcase his ability."[/QUOTE]
By making life more difficult for him? I don't see him being as effective rolling to the rim if they don't have shooters to spread the floor. Same with Favors.
[QUOTE]Will the Jazz be able to stay healthy after a year where they were one of the most injured teams in the league? [/QUOTE]
It's the last two years!
[QUOTE]Will Rodney Hood and Dante Exum be able to take the leap the franchise thinks possible?[/QUOTE]
They are expecting way too much from Hood. I can see him being a bit better than the beginning of last year. Make him a 6th man and watch him flourish in that role instead of trying to make him Hayward which he'll never be.
Summer League was encouraging for Exum but he looked good years ago in Summer league so he has a lot to prove still
[QUOTE]On the surface, the Jazz still have a playoff team. [/QUOTE]
In the east or maybe even in a west that didn't get a lot better. Right now they should be able to compete but certainly look like a lottery team. Maybe they'll get lucky in the lottery finally
[QUOTE]They won't be projected in the top four in the Western Conference like they would have if Hayward re-signed. [/QUOTE]
Not sure they would have been anyway. They downgraded the team while everyone else loaded up. No wonder Hayward left
[QUOTE]Hood and Exum will be key. Hood will be a No. 1 perimeter option for the first time in his career, something he's been craving. He'll get all the touches he needs to increase his production. Utah's offense will run through him in important situations, and he'll be counted on to provide scoring.[/QUOTE]
This is shortsighted. Hood is basically what he is. Exum is a great athlete that has yet to show he can play basketball. If they are the keys they are in bigger trouble than I thought
[QUOTE]He'll also be a marked man defensively. Hayward always drew the opposition's best defender, which allowed Hood and Joe Ingles to feast on lesser perimeter defenders. Hood won't have that luxury.[/QUOTE]
Which is a big reason he is a 6th man. He also needs the ball in his hands which would have worked better with Hill but Rubio will dominate the rock now. Off the bench he can dominate the ball like he wants
[QUOTE]"We think Rodney has the potential to be in that 18 points per game range," Lindsey said.[/QUOTE]
Certainly but it would make more sense off the bench
[QUOTE]We didn't want to bring in anyone who could get in the way of Donovan, Dante and Rodney. We want them to develop.[/QUOTE]
I think there are plenty of guys that could if they aren't ready. I have no problem with Mitchell starting the year with the Stars if he doesn't earn minutes
[QUOTE]To replace Hayward's fourth-quarter scoring, the Jazz will turn to Hood and Joe Johnson, who was fantastic in the role last season. The Jazz have hopes for Favors' return to health and previous form.[/QUOTE]
Joe needs to go. Favors will have a hard time just like Rudy with out players to spread the floor
[QUOTE]Assuming good health, it's a team that still should be playing once the postseason rolls around.[/QUOTE]
You're dreaming!
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[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5512376-155/kragthorpe-who-cares-if-the-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]And as Miami proved last season, it is possible to be a top-five defensive team and miss the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
And that was in the east with shooters
[QUOTE]admiring how the Jazz have become a defensive force in Snyder's three seasons after being worst in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
Gobert not Snyder. They have sucked without Rudy until the playoffs
[QUOTE]Rodney Hood must become a more consistent shooter as a primary option[/QUOTE]
He's not really a shooter. He's a scorer
[QUOTE]Gobert has to keep developing offensively and Snyder needs to maximize Ricky Rubio's passing skills, while somehow making him a better shooter.[/QUOTE]
good luck! Rudy just became less effective without shooters around him. Rubio will suddenly become a shooter?
[QUOTE]After trading Rubio and acquiring point guard Jeff Teague, Minnesota coach Tom Thibodeau said opponents no longer would be able to go under screens on the pick-and-roll. That's how they've played Rubio, clogging the lane.[/QUOTE]
Which is why they got rid of him and they had a center that shot 3's!
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/15/15961736/2017-summer-league-donovan-mitchell-comparison-utah-jazz-rookies-takeaways-historical[/url]
[QUOTE]Also, looking at Trey Burke
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[url]http://www.ksl.com/?sid=45041618&nid=304&title=video-where-have-all-the-jazzmen-gone[/url]
[QUOTE]With the roster at 15 players, the Jazz are done for the summer.[/QUOTE]
Still have 5 roster spots to fill for fall camp and 2 two ways. With Neto and Bolomboy not being guaranteed there should be plenty of competition in camp. Still got to think Joe Johnson goes though. Makes little sense now but than neither does most of the roster.
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[url]https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2017/07/15/bits-on-gordon-hayward-from-rudy-gobert-dennis-lindsey-and-gordon-hayward-interviews/[/url]
[QUOTE]Lindsey
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[QUOTE]Free-agent combo forward Luc Mbah a Moute has agreed to sign with the Houston Rockets, league sources tell ESPN. It is believed to be a one-year, veteran minimum arrangement.
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[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5515662-155/nba-rating-the-winners-and-losers[/url]
[QUOTE]The Northwest Division
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[QUOTE]David Pick: Source: Royce O
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/7/17/15980020/2017-nba-offseason-free-agency-utah-jazz-international-ricky-rubio-rudy-gobert-ekpe-udoh[/url]
[QUOTE]On draft night, he aggressively traded up for Donovan Mitchell, who has freakishly long arms and a good nose for steals. He traded for Ricky Rubio, who has freakishly long arms and a good nose for steals. He signed Thabo Sefolosha, who has freakishly long arms and a good nose for steals (noticing a pattern yet?).[/QUOTE]
Yep no proven shooters
[QUOTE] Utah has three players on their roster that were in the top 20 in STL% in 2016-17. No other team has more than two.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully it will lead to more easy fast break points. Don't see how they can score much in the half court
[QUOTE]The Jazz were already top 5 in total rebounding percentage and top 3 in defensive rebounding percentage, and they added more rebounding to the team.[/QUOTE]
Did they? Hayward and Hill rebounded. Who did they get that will more? Udoh is a shot blocker not a rebounder
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/17/a-far-too-early-look-at-potential-utah-jazz-free-agent-targets-in-2018/2/[/url]
[QUOTE]Kilpatrick showed the ability to score in bunches on several occasions this past year.
His shooting needs some work and the Jazz may not be in need of a shooting guard next season depending on what comes of Rodney Hood and how well Donovan Mitchell advances, but he could also very well be a steal in next year
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Fred Katz: Ekpe Udoh hasn
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[QUOTE]Jody Genessy: Can confirm that the Jazz will sign Royce O’Neale to a three-year deal (one fully guaranteed) and Eric Griffin to a two-way contract. – via Twitter DJJazzyJody[/QUOTE]
Seems like O'Neale would have made more sense on the two way at 24 years old. Didn't have big numbers in Europe but is long of course! I think Griffin would be a perfect end of the bench energy guy like Booker and Johnson were.
[QUOTE]Jody Genessy: These recent moves — Thabo, Jerebko, Udoh, O’Neale — by the Jazz are not setting up a potential trade, according to sources. – via Twitter DJJazzyJody[/QUOTE]
So 14 guaranteed contracts plus Bolomboy's partial. Neto could be out or they will eat some money? Johnson needs to go. He makes no sense anymore at his age for this team. His value will probably only go down. Might have to buy him out after the trade deadline so he can go play for a good team. 1 more two way contract and two more camp bodies which could be good players with Bolomboy only partially guaranted.
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[url]http://www.ksl.com/?sid=45062873&nid=304&title=jazz-sign-royce-oneale-eric-griffin-to-contracts[/url]
[QUOTE]O'Neale is a 3-and-D prospect [/QUOTE]
except for the 3 part! :rolleyes:
[QUOTE]they liked his play in the ACB and with the New Orleans Pelicans summer-league team enough to give him guaranteed money[/QUOTE]
Looks like he rebounded, passed the ball and ot some steals.
[url]http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Royce-ONeale/Summary/31723[/url]
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[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5518411-155/utah-jazz-sign-royce-oneale-to[/url]
[QUOTE]O'Neale, 24, played in a Jazz free agent mini-camp last year, and Utah came to admire his game but was unable to add him for the 2016-17 season. O'Neale has not played an NBA game, but played for the Golden State Warriors in Summer League last year.[/QUOTE]
So he's been on their radar since at least last year
Should be an interesting fall camp anyway
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The Jazz have liked him for two years. They look at him as a tough and hard nosed wing who they can develop [url]https://t.co/huaNPi52ht[/url]
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[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684992/Utah-Jazz-sign-Jonas-Jerebko.html[/url]
[QUOTE]I grew up a fan of the @utahjazz and now its official! Cant wait to join this amazing organization. Time to go to work #TakeNote pic.twitter.com/xQJKHnahP5
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[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/17/utah-jazz-ink-royce-oneale-summer-league-eric-griffin/[/url]
[QUOTE]In the meantime, minutes behind Rodney Hood, Ingles and Sefolosha may be hard to come by next season.[/QUOTE]
Exum, Burks... He'll be with the Stars. I wonder if they had to give him guaranteed contract because others wanted him while Griffin no one else wanted to give more than a two way too?
[QUOTE]This could mean that a trade is in the works or the Jazz could part ways with either Joel Bolomboy or Raul Neto, neither of whom have full guarantees for the 2017-18 season.[/QUOTE]
Neither do. I'd think they need Neto with Mitchell and Exum still unproven though.
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[url]http://hoopshabit.com/2017/07/16/utah-jazz-5-takeaways-from-2017-summer-league/[/url]
[QUOTE]The signing of Epke Udoh said a lot about Tony Bradley
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[url]http://hoopshabit.com/2017/07/15/2017-nba-free-agency-grades-utah-jazz-will-add-jonas-jerebko/[/url]
[QUOTE]But how many minutes will head coach Quin Snyder allot to Jerebko? The Celtics played him for 15.8 minutes per game in 2016-17 and 15.1 the season before. He could see additional time simply due to being the next true power forward up. However, other teammates could eat into his playing time for various reasons.[/QUOTE]
Looks like he's at the end of the bench to start the year. Rudy, Favors, Johnson and Udoh. Jonas could be in the mix later in the year when Favors and Johnson are gone I imagine
[QUOTE]Snyder will also look to play small-ball, utilizing Joe Ingles, Joe Johnson, and even new arrival Thabo Sefolosha. [/QUOTE]
Hopefully Hood. He could really be something special at the 4. He's supposedly putting on weight. We'll see
[QUOTE]Snyder leans towards a nine-man rotation for most games. Therefore, Jerebko will have to earn his time off of the bench.[/QUOTE]
Does he? He actually goes deeper than 10 a lot. Looks like he could have a roster of 13 guys that can play at the NBA level assuming they are healthy of course.
[QUOTE]Grade: C+[/QUOTE]
I think he's a solid pick-up for the end of the bench. He's one of the guys I thought they should target. He is the one signing that actually makes sense
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[url]https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2017/07/11/bits-from-dennis-lindsey-sam-amick-rodney-hood-and-gordie-chiesa-interviews/[/url]
[QUOTE]And so, our talk to Rodney is, is reliability [and] availability will be the two best abilities regarding Rodney Hood. It’s not basketball skills. It’s not character. It’s not intelligence. It’s not knowing how to play. It’s just now he’s moving into a primary role, and we think he’ll be able to handle it. But he’s gotta be able to prove that.[/QUOTE]
Now or never for him and a few others
[QUOTE]You know, you — beyond that, I don’t know. I think, the other stuff I’d hear that I don’t have total clarity on is the George Hill factor, and the fact that they — there was a lot of noise that once George was clearly not coming back [to Utah], that Gordon was out of there.[/QUOTE]
I'd say Hill and not upgrading the roster. It was obvious they needed to add to the roster and thye downgraded. Can't blame him for leaving. They talked about spending money and they went the cheap route as usual!
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[QUOTE]Summer League buzz (Part 1): Donovan Mitchell already getting tagged as the steal of the draft. Dennis Lindsey, Jazz may have done it again.
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[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/dont-sleep-retooled-gordon-hayward-less-utah-jazz-134102007.html[/url]
[QUOTE]Rubio has been relatively healthy the past two years, and however you feel about adding the poor-shooting Spaniard at the point, another 75-plus games from him would be better than the hobbled half-season the Jazz got from Hill in 2016-17.[/QUOTE]
Rather have an injured Hill
[QUOTE]Utah should also expect more from Dante Exum in his second season back from ACL surgery. So, even after Shelvin Mack left for the Orlando Magic, there
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[url]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2721432-surprise-summer-league-revealing-3-low-key-rookie-of-the-year-candidates?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national[/url]
[QUOTE] Coach Quin Snyder will want to use Mitchell right away.[/QUOTE]
Probably won't play enough for rookie of the year. The rookie/sophomore game and all-rookie team would be nice but wouldn't mean much considering Exum and Lyles made it last year to the game. :wtf:
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/18/utah-jazz-editorial-gordon-hayward-will-regret-exchanging-rudy-gobert-for-brad-stevens/[/url]
[QUOTE]it
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/17/utah-jazz-thabo-sefolosha-captain-nba-africa-2017/[/url]
[QUOTE]Last week, defensive specialist Thabo Sefolosha agreed in principle to a deal with the Utah Jazz. He
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[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/07/17/jonas-jerebko-cant-wait-join-amazing-utah-jazz-organization/[/url]
[QUOTE]Rudy Gobert, Joe Ingles, rookie Donovan Mitchell and now Jonas Jerebko have all made their excitement about playing for the Jazz very publicly known[/QUOTE]
and Goss
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://hoopshabit.com/2017/07/17/utah-jazz-building-powerhouse-around-rudy-gobert/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz are in an NBA limbo. Do they blow it up after Gordon Hayward
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Scott Howard-Cooper: My favorite update: Jerry Sloan having a lot of good days and still around the Jazz. Glad I got the chance to say a quick hello in SLC.
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Jody Genessy: Jonas Jerebko said he was a Utah Jazz fan as a kid in Sweden. He bought a purple Karl Malone jersey and played as the Jazz in video games.
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[url]http://www.ksl.com/?sid=45076787&nid=304&title=nike-to-release-gold-alternate-jazz-jersey-in-2017-18-season[/url]
That might be even worse than the green
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[url]http://www.ksl.com/?sid=45071009&nid=294&title=ben-anderson-with-nothing-to-prove-jazz-are-free-to-play[/url]
[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz have spent the past two seasons auditioning for Gordon Hayward to stay with the team that drafted him. [/QUOTE]
Their audition 2 seasons ago may have been their mistake
[QUOTE]After a brilliant close to the 2014-15 season, spurred by trading away locker room misfit Enes Kanter and replacing the lesser-talented Trey Burke with Dante Exum in the starting, the Jazz appeared to be on the rise in the Western Conference.
But a disappointing 2015-16 season, one that saw the Jazz fall short of the playoffs, meant the team failed to live up to the promise of the previous season.[/QUOTE]
But Lindsey is a wizard!
[QUOTE]Other than perhaps showing a little more urgency, spending more money to woo Hayward earlier in his stead in Utah, the Jazz did everything they reasonably could to keep him around.[/QUOTE]
Everything but spend money and improve the team like they said they'd do
[QUOTE] the Jazz should be fun to watch[/QUOTE]
I doubt they will be fun to watch with that offense
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[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5522786-155/monson-the-jazzs-mysterious-new-puzzle[/url]
[QUOTE]In his rookie year, before his first NBA regular-season game, which is to say during the preseason, this player punched Jamaal Magloire straight in the mug, drawing a one-game suspension.[/QUOTE]
:bowdown: