ISH All-time Top 25 Guards Project: #2 Kobe Bryant vs Magic Johnson.

[QUOTE=juju151111]:facepalm I have no words for how stupid your post is. :rolleyes: [B]Who says Kobe can't play team defense?[/B] Kobe isn't some great help defender either. He conserving energy, go watch some 03 Kobe where he did both then come back snd talked to me. You have to recover to your man.[/QUOTE]

I know right ?

Who the hell thinks he can't play defense ? We just call it out for being overrated and we have supported this notion with coaches and NBA forums, youtube, etc... to formulate why we feel this way. But were hating on Kobe and his legacy.... SMH...

[QUOTE=DaPerceive]There are about three to four seasons I would say Kobe didn't deserve to make an all-defensive team. 2005-2006, 2006-2007, 2009-2010, and 2010-2011. Every other season I would say Kobe was worthy of that All-NBA Defensive spot.

A lot of people get carried away though..[/QUOTE]

+1.

I feel the same way. His MVP year, he definitely picked up his play on defense.

[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Bro, you just told me this before:



You tell me. I will be waitng for more B.S. or deflection. Which ever may come first.[/QUOTE]

I'll take the absurd position that I value the 29 opposing coaches over 11 years than the statement of one coach who is known for being hypercritical of his teams own legendary players to a ridiculous level. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I know right ?

Who the hell thinks he can't play defense ? We just call it out for being overrated and we have supported this notion with coaches and NBA forums, youtube, etc... to formulate why we feel this way. But were hating on Kobe and his legacy.... SMH...[/QUOTE]

Do you think Kobe is the only legendary player who has been awarded all defensive awards that probably should have given to so name guy who wouldn't be in the league if it wasnt for his defense?

That's the point. It's not that Kobe may have been given awards that he didn't deserve. Its whether or not Kobe was given the benefit of the doubt on all defensive team[B] more so [/B] than other legendary players in NBA history.

Why isn't the all defensive team police investigating Larry Bird's defensive awards? Jerry West's? LeBron James'? Tim Duncan? Michael Jordan's?

Doc Rivers after the 2008 Finals:

"Kobe might be the best help defender since Pippen"

:pimp:

[QUOTE=DaPerceive]There are about three to four seasons I would say Kobe didn't deserve to make an all-defensive team. 2005-2006, 2006-2007, 2009-2010, and 2010-2011. Every other season I would say Kobe was worthy of that All-NBA Defensive spot.

A lot of people get carried away though..[/QUOTE]
See, people feel something like this while head coaches voted different.

So are these head coaches blind? Biased? Told to do so? Really feel that way?

[QUOTE=Yao Ming's Foot]Of course it does. Kobe's accolades are treated with a fine toothed comb. No other legend gets the same treatment. Do you see anybody really hyped about how many all defensive team awards Michael Jordan [I]really[/I] earned? When he won the DPOY did anybody bother to create some obscure formula like regularized adjusted +/- (RAPM) to find out that the best defensive player was probably some scrub big man who wouldnt even be in the league without his defensive abilities?

The idea of any player Kobe included winning awards based on his past reputation is even remotely controversial. The funny thing is you guys like to pretend this phenomena begins and ends with Kobe. Every single legend in this game has had a reputation that over inflated his perceived skills as their career progressed. Magic made the all star team for a year he didn't even play. He's won a Finals MVP on the basis of a single game.[/QUOTE]
Ether.

[QUOTE=Yao Ming's Foot][B]BREAKING NEWS! Tex Winter said Michael Jordan is the worst passer in NBA History!!![/B]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8pUmr.png[/IMG]

:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Damn. Killing all those morons. :oldlol:

I see Bladers putting everyone in place dropping mad knowledge:bowdown:

Oh yeah his cheerleader Jacks be up in here too. Keep cheering

This Thread got Robbed

[QUOTE=Jacks3]Doc Rivers after the 2008 Finals:

"Kobe might be the best help defender since Pippen"

:pimp:[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEHbGDyTc2w[/url]

2:13 Mark:

"Kobe Bryant is single-handedly disrupting the Spurs offense"

Idiots. :oldlol:

2010 First Round:

Westbrook averages 55% FG through the first four games. The Lakers switch Bryant on to him and he completely shuts him down. Holds him to 35% in the next two games. :bowdown:

Kobe #1 SG in DWS from 05-10.

Nothing that anyone says here is changing anything.

No quotes or silly arguments are going to change the fact that Magic Johnson was superior to Kobe Bryant, and ISH collectively agrees. This debate is over.

Move on.

[QUOTE=SuperPippen]Nothing that anyone says here is changing anything.

No quotes or silly arguments are going to change the fact that Magic Johnson was superior to Kobe Bryant, and [B][SIZE="7"]ISH collectively agrees[/SIZE][/B]. This debate is over.

Move on.[/QUOTE]


Bullshit...if you poll every user and the thousands of people who view the thread...I bet Kobe get's past Magic....not to mention Wade past Cousy...easily.

this is 10 elitists fans who obviously have an agenda....



F@cking so Mad.......this is serious BIZNAZZ!!!


[COLOR="White"]I kid[/COLOR]


silly really