2016- Yet another long off-season

[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Right now I see it as Rudy/Favors/Hayward/Hill/Mack with Burks/Hood/Johnson/Diaw/Lyles off the bench. Neto/Exum/Ingles/Johnson/Pleiss bench. Trade Withey. Ford to the D-league. Exum possibly D-league until he's ready to beat someone out for minutes. Neto is too good for the D-league I think. He was a solid starter last year.[/QUOTE]

Jazz are way higher on Exum than you are. Exum will not play behind Neto or Mack and they sure as hell aren't sending him to the D-League.

They will ease Exum in to make sure he is 100% after the injury. To start the year, Jazz depth chart will be:

Hill/Exum/Mack
Burks/Hood
Hayward/Johnson
Favors/Lyles
Gobert/Diaw/Withey

By the end of the year, presuming everyone is healthy, Exum could slide into the starting spot and the wing rotation might change. The only guaranteed starter on the wing is Hayward, though I do think Johnson will primarily play off the bench (with Diaw) to provide the second unit with experience and poise. I expect Johnson to finish most close games, though.

I see Diaw as the third big, and will spell whomever of Favors/Gobert gets into foul trouble.

As far as trading Withey, who knows? Would have liked the Jazz to have gotten Bogut since he was available for nothing, and is on the last year of his deal. A one year rental could have worked out nicely. Oh well. Would like to see the Jazz get Ezeli if possible, given that Diaw is 34 and on the last year of his deal. Diaw has 2-3 years left in the league whereas Ezeli is only 28. Signing him would guarantee we would go over the cap to resign Favors, Gobert, and Hayward, but that seems to be an inevitability if the Jazz are serious about keeping their core together.

[quote=CakeorDeath]Jazz are way higher on Exum than you are. Exum will not play behind Neto or Mack and they sure as hell aren't sending him to the D-League.

They will ease Exum in to make sure he is 100% after the injury. [/quote]

If he's not 100% he can rehab in the D-league and learn how to run a team like he should have two years ago. From what they are saying people will actually have to earn their minutes again finally.

Neto was better last year then Exum was as a rookie. He plays both ends of the court and does all the things they want from him hit open 3's, play D, pass, and run the pick and roll.

The one thing Exum did well he may not be able to do coming off knee surgery. Other than 3 quarters or whatever it was in a Summer League game we've seen absolutely nothing from Exum offensively. He had a historically bad offensive year and his lack of aggression was worrisome before he blew out his knee.

I hope he's everything people hype him up to be but until he actually shows on the court it he shouldn't be given nothing. Trey Burke would be a lot better off now if he'd had to earn his way as a Jazz man. Right now I'd be happy if Exum could defend multiple positions and hit open 3's. Until than he shouldn't be playing if they are in win now mode which they do appear to be a year later thanks to Hayward's coming free agency.

Mack was one of their best players and should be the starter going in to camp until someone shows they can run the team better. They had the number 1 D while he started too so the one thing Exum is hailed for they didn't miss once they had Mack running the offense. The lack of respect he(and to a lesser extent Neto who was a solid starter and role player) has been given since they got Hill, is sad really after the way he played.

[QUOTE]Burks/Hood[/QUOTE]

So why do you have Burks starting over Hood when everyone else seems to think Hood is an automatic starter?


[QUOTE]I do think Johnson will primarily play off the bench (with Diaw) to provide the second unit with experience and poise.[/QUOTE]

They will be on the bench because of their D.

[QUOTE] I expect Johnson to finish most close games, though.[/QUOTE]

I can see the end of game guys changing a lot now. Quin is not Jerry and actually makes moves based on game situations and match-ups.

[QUOTE]As far as trading Withey, who knows?[/QUOTE]

He has to go. He's a rotation player rather Quin likes him or not. He shouldn't have to sit the bench for another year.

[QUOTE] Would have liked the Jazz to have gotten Bogut since he was available for nothing, and is on the last year of his deal. A one year rental could have worked out nicely.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't hit the 3. Probably had no interest despite him being an Aussie.

[QUOTE] Would like to see the Jazz get Ezeli if possible, given that Diaw is 34 and on the last year of his deal. Diaw has 2-3 years left in the league whereas Ezeli is only 28.[/QUOTE]

So Lyles goes to the bench? If they sign another big it won't be a rotation player. Will be to upgrade Pleiss.

[quote] Signing him would guarantee we would go over the cap to resign Favors, Gobert, and Hayward, but that seems to be an inevitability if the Jazz are serious about keeping their core together.[/quote]

They'll go over the cap, probably this year. Doesn't sound like they'll ever pay the tax again though.

[url]http://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2016/7/7/12116370/nba-draft-2016-utah-jazz-future-picks-2017-2018-2019-2020-2021[/url]

[QUOTE]2nd Rounder (Golden State Warriors) - Likely to be another #60 pick. Man, Utah didn't get a lot of useful picks from this three-team trade, but I guess Hood was a steal. These back-to-back #60 picks? Less so.[/QUOTE]

Way too early to tell. I like their 60th pick. He might not be ready this year but maybe next like Hanlan.

[QUOTE]1st Rounder (Oklahoma City Thunder) - This is the theoretical pick from the Kanter trade. It's really theoretical though, as it has lottery protection (1st to 14th pick) in 2018, 2019, and 2020. So even if a [B][URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duranke01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.basketball-reference.com"]Kevin Durant[/URL][/B] less- Thunder miss the [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba-playoffs"]NBA Playoffs[/URL] this season we're not getting the pick. Same with next year, and the following year after that. In fact, if the Jazz do not get this pick at all over the next three years then this glorious 1st rounder defaults into two 2nd rounders (2020, and 2021). What a bad pick. It's like the Jazz were highly motivated to move Kanter and weren't getting a lot for him.[/QUOTE]

Too early to say. If they keep Westbrook they could make the playoffs. 15th pick next year would be nice. As far as Kanter they got a lot just not paying him and letting Rudy loose on the league. Still have Pleiss too.

[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865657583/Morning-links-Zach-Lowe-of-ESPN-calls-the-Jazz-a-four-seed-Utahs-trade-for-Boris-Diaw-earns-an-A.html[/url]
[QUOTE]
The Utah Jazz could be a No. 4 in next season's NBA playoffs, according to [URL="http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=16832546"]Zach Lowe and Kevin Arnovitz of ESPN Radio[/URL].[/QUOTE]

They should be right in the mix after the top 2 teams. I thought this before any of the off-season moves. :cheers:

[QUOTE]"You know who I'm interested in? I want to see the Jazz take it to the Warriors," Lowe said. "I think the Jazz are going to be really good. They're big....The Jazz are hungry and young. I want to see it."[/QUOTE]

They should be one of the tougher teams against them again because of their D.

[QUOTE]"This deal is an absolute slam dunk for the Utah Jazz, who managed to flip the rights to a D-League caliber player into a veteran with championship experience who will bolster the team

Scott Agness: [URL="http://twitter.com/ScottAgness/status/751085240458747904"]Jazz officially announce three-team trade that brings Jeff Teague to Indy,[/URL] pending physicals.

Traveon Graham just said he was on the Vegas roster. Looks like he's improved a lot. Was player of the game.

[url]http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Mike-Tobey/Summary/42307[/url]

[url]http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Treveon-Graham/Summary/31269[/url]

Looks like the Vegas roster is a couple good players better.

[QUOTE][URL="http://www.nba.com/jazz/news/jazz-acquire-future-second-round-pick-washington"]The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has acquired a 2021 second-round pick from the Washington Wizards in exchange for guard Trey Burke[/URL].

[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4092701-155/utah-jazz-team-announces-george-hill?page=2[/url]

[QUOTE]"When there's not a clear path to the floor for a young player, a young talented player like Trey, then you have to do the right thing," Lindsey said.[/QUOTE]

Withey? Pleiss? :confusedshrug:

[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865657665/GM-Dennis-Lindsey-calls-new-Jazz-guard-George-Hill-a-nice-fit.html[/url]

[QUOTE]Lindsey likes the balance of pairing a veteran like the experienced Hill with the young understudy Exum.

[quote]After three games of the Utah Jazz Summer League, perhaps the biggest thing we learned about this Jazz team is that not a lot of guys on the 15-man roster will be playing for the real Jazz this coming season. In fact you might just see two players, Trey Lyles and Tibor Pleiss, who are both under contract and were the best players this week.[/quote]
I thought Bolomboy was a can't miss rotation player? :rolleyes:

Arguable as to if Pleiss was one of the top 2. I'd probably say Hanlan. Craft, Butterfield, Xmas...

[quote]With the recent addition of George Hill, Joe Johnson and Boris Diaw, the Jazz have 14 players under contract, as well as Jeff Withey and Chris Johnson, who were both on the roster last year.[/quote]
and Quincy Ford. They might have to poach some guys off other summer league rosters for fall camp though the two they have joining the team in Vegas might do. They are playing well. They certainly need to sign another big ideally a 4-5.

[QUOTE]Tyrone Wallace and Marcus Paige, two of Utah

[url]http://saltcityhoops.com/jazz-sl-team-drops-final-game-to-sixers-go-0-3-in-tourney/[/url]

[QUOTE]It will be interesting to see if Tibor can carve out space for himself on the Jazz

[url]http://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat/2016/7/8/12128392/nba-free-agency-2016-breaking-down-the-moves-and-cap-space-for-all-30[/url]

[QUOTE]Every year the team has been in Vegas the team has failed to make it out of the first round. I expect that to continue this year as well. You know, unless [B][URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/exumda01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.basketball-reference.com"]Dante Exum[/URL][/B] (who isn't playing for Australia right now) feels like actually playing basketball or something.[/QUOTE]

Actually they are adding two guys that did well in Orlando so maybe better than Exum.

[QUOTE][B]$20 million or more below the cap[/B]: Philadelphia 76ers, [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/denver-nuggets"]Denver Nuggets[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/brooklyn-nets"]Brooklyn Nets[/URL]
[/QUOTE] [B]$15-19 million[/B]: [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/indiana-pacers"]Indiana Pacers[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/miami-heat"]Miami Heat[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/minnesota-timberwolves"]Minnesota Timberwolves[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/phoenix-suns"]Phoenix Suns[/URL]
[B]$10 to 14 million[/B]: [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/los-angeles-lakers"]Los Angeles Lakers[/URL], Utah Jazz
[B]$5 to 9 million[/B]: [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/houston-rockets"]Houston Rockets[/URL], Portland Trail Blazers, [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/toronto-raptors"]Toronto Raptors[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/milwaukee-bucks"]Milwaukee Bucks[/URL]
[B]$0 to 4 million[/B]: [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/atlanta-hawks"]Atlanta Hawks[/URL], Boston Celtics, [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/memphis-grizzlies"]Memphis Grizzlies[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/orlando-magic"]Orlando Magic[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/detroit-pistons"]Detroit Pistons[/URL], Washington Wizards, [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/golden-state-warriors"]Golden State Warriors[/URL], San Antonio Spurs, [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/charlotte-hornets"]Charlotte Hornets[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/chicago-bulls"]Chicago Bulls[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/sacramento-kings"]Sacramento Kings[/URL], New Orleans Pelicans
[B]Over the cap[/B]: [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/new-york-knicks"]New York Knicks[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/dallas-mavericks"]Dallas Mavericks[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/oklahoma-city-thunder"]Oklahoma City Thunder[/URL], [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/los-angeles-clippers"]Los Angeles Clippers[/URL], and [URL="http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/cleveland-cavaliers"]Cleveland Cavaliers[/URL].

A lot of money still to spend! I'm guessing it might be crazy all the way to buy out time in March.

[QUOTE]Jason Quick: RFA [URL="http://*********.com/social/"]Maurice Harkless has received interest from teams, including POR, but not close to deal or offer sheet.[/URL]

[QUOTE][URL="http://www.nba.com/jazz/news/jazz-acquire-boris-diaw-and-draft-pick-spurs"]The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has acquired forward Boris Diaw, a 2022 second-round pick and cash considerations from San Antonio[/URL] in exchange for the player rights to Olivier Hanlan.