Inflated numbers in an era where teams play no defense.
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Inflated numbers in an era where teams play no defense.
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[B]Goat standard at 40 years old[/B] - 43 of 89 points against the #1 defense and East champs in the toughest defensive format ever, where competitive-minded players were eager to finally have a chance against the old lion
[B]Fake standard at 40 years old[/B] - 40 of 120 points and 11 turnovers against a bottom-dweller in a hands-off, wide-open format that allows 20 more ppg, while the league's design around a single colluder disincentives opponents from winning or going hard (since it won't get covered and they won't be praised for it)
He's easily better. He's also on pace to lead the Lakers to a top 4 seed, while Jordan was bricking the Wizards into a losing record, as he did every season of his career without Pippen.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14980251]He's easily better. He's also on pace to lead the Lakers to a top 4 seed, while Jordan was bricking the Wizards into a losing record, as he did every season of his career without Pippen.[/QUOTE]
AD led the Lakers in scoring and defense to get the 4 seed, so you guys will say any old lie to support your delusion... that's the definition of crazy..
jordan and everyone in the league had to win with "normal" rosters of 1 franchise player, while Lebron couldn't do anything with normal rosters, so he got super-teams of [I]multiple[/I] franchise players that matched is stats and carried him.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14980252]AD led the Lakers in scoring and defense to get the 4 seed, so you guys will say any old lie to support your delusion... that's the definition of crazy[/QUOTE]
AD hasn't played for the Lakers since January 28th, since then, the Lakers have gone 7-2, with LeBron averaging 29/8/9 on 65%TS. No AD, no Luka, no problem for LeBron. Meanwhile, no Pip, no winning record for Jordan.
LeBron's just a better player, and it's painfully obvious at this point. Once you accept this, you can maybe finally find peace.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14980254]AD hasn't played for the Lakers since January 28th, since then, the Lakers have gone 7-2, with LeBron averaging 29/8/9 on 65%TS. No AD, no Luka, no problem for LeBron. Meanwhile, no Pip, no winning record for Jordan.
LeBron's just a better player, and it's painfully obvious at this point. Once you accept this, you can maybe finally find peace.[/QUOTE]
The Lakers are the 5 seed now and they were the 5 seed after AD's last game, so Lebron was carried to the 5 seed.... A 7-2 stretch since then with Reaves playing better than Bird and Luka helping in 1 of the games doesn't make Lebron the goat.. It makes him carried as always.
So again, more delusion.. You'll believe anything to make Lebron the goat, even a 7-2 stretch where he was carried compared to any team that MJ ever had.
Lebron can't win with [I]normal rosters[/I] of 1 franchise player that Jordan and everyone else is forced to win with, and he still mostly loses with the super-teams of multiple franchise players..
Meanwhile, his stats have never been anywhere near Jordan - you keep citing PPG that is less than 30 as if that compares to Jordan, lol.., Lebron can't score compared to Jordan and actually won multiple titles and conferences with just 25 ppg because he had so much help.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14980261]The Lakers are the 5 seed now and they were the 5 seed after AD's last game, so Lebron was carried to the 5 seed.... A 7-2 stretch since then with Reaves playing better than Bird and Luka helping in 1 of the games doesn't make Lebron the goat.. It makes him carried as always.
So again, more delusion.. You'll believe anything to make Lebron the goat, even a 7-2 stretch where he was carried compared to any team that MJ ever had.
Lebron can't win with [I]normal rosters[/I] of 1 franchise player that Jordan and everyone else is forced to win with, and he still mostly loses with the super-teams of multiple franchise players..
Meanwhile, his stats have never been anywhere near Jordan - you keep citing PPG that is less than 30 as if that compares to Jordan, lol.., Lebron can't score compared to Jordan and actually won multiple titles and conferences with just 25 ppg because he had so much help.[/QUOTE]
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Oh, and
[U]MVP and title[/U]
Jordan............ 4
Russell............ 4
Bird................ 2
Lebron............ 2
Magic.............. 1
Kareem........... 1
Duncan........... 1
Shaq............... 1
Hakeem........... 1
Moses...............1
half of Lebron's MVP's lacked titles and all lacked scoring title, so Lebron failed to reach the top caliber of anything, such as MVP quality, 3-peat, dynasty, or 70 wins.
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Lebron 8 All stars, Jordan 1 All star
You're kiddng yourself man. Posters are roasting you. 3ba11 is embarassing your ass.
Lebron and the Lakers are the 3rd seed in the West. Wizards missed the playoffs in the leastern conference.
This thread aged like wine :applause:
4 years later LeBron is still top 5-10 in the league and easily better than Wizards MJ who couldn't even get his team to the playoffs in the East
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This thread aged like wine :applause:
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Lebron stat-pads in an easy-scoring league, while also being 3rd option on his own team and a massive negative:
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The Lakers must literally win in spite of Lebron's massive negative impact... Obviously, Luka would have a 70-win pace if he was paired with a true top 5 player
[QUOTE=3ba11;14990628]Lebron stat-pads in an easy-scoring league, while also being 3rd option on his own team and a massive negative:
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The Lakers must literally win in spite of Lebron's massive negative impact... Obviously, Luka would have a 70-win pace if he was paired with a true top 5 player[/QUOTE]
Shaq is GOAT confirmed for winning with net negative Kobe in 2002 :applause:
Old Lebron easily clears old MJ. Wizards MJ was a joke, a literal side circus in the NBA. There was less embarrassment with MJ playing baseball.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14990628]Lebron stat-pads in an easy-scoring league, while also being 3rd option on his own team and a massive negative:
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The Lakers must literally win in spite of Lebron's massive negative impact... Obviously, Luka would have a 70-win pace if he was paired with a true top 5 player[/QUOTE]
MJ was out the league at age 40 whilst LeBron is competing for championships and putting up superstar numbers
There's levels to this