post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

[URL="https://gleague.nba.com/news/nba-g-league-tips-off-2021-22-season-on-nov-5-with-innovative-new-format/"]The NBA G League today announced a new innovative format to its season structure featuring both a 36-game regular season and an expanded Showcase Cup, a 14-game tournament which begins on Friday, Nov. 5[/URL] and then concludes at the annual NBA G League Winter Showcase from Dec. 19-22. The 2021-22 regular-season will then commence on Dec. 27 with traditional playoffs and the NBA G League Finals presented by YouTube TV in April 2022. The NBA G League today also released its complete game schedule for the full season for 2021-22 play.
– via [URL="https://gleague.nba.com/news/nba-g-league-tips-off-2021-22-season-on-nov-5-with-innovative-new-format/"]gleague.nba.com[/URL]

[URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/national-teams/1246349/igor-kokoskov-is-officially-no-longer-the-head-coach-of-serbia/"]Igor Kokoskov’s status was uncertain since Serbia missed the Olympics and it came as no surprise that the Federation announced parting ways with the coach.[/URL] The two sides mutually agreed to the decision and the Serbian Federation will search for his replacement in the upcoming days. As already reported, Svetislav Pesic has been the main candidate for the position and has been willing to take the job as long as he can choose who to work with.
– via [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/national-teams/1246349/igor-kokoskov-is-officially-no-longer-the-head-coach-of-serbia/"]EuroHoops.net[/URL]

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/9/13/22665409/utah-jazz-insider-newsletter-havent-proven-theyre-more-than-a-second-round-team[/url]

[QUOTE]The Lakers were bounced in the first round of the playoffs last season, but they were the reigning champions, and two of the best players in the world in LeBron James and Anthony Davis were injured when the postseason began. It’s understandable to believe that healthy they will be one of the best teams in the league. The Suns were the team that beat the Lakers and then went on to play in the finals. Those are the two Western Conference teams listed ahead of the Jazz in Stein’s rankings. That’s pretty good.

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healthy matters. Unlikely the Lakers will be and you throw in Westrook. Good luck!

[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/13/22654338/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-jordan-clarkson-sixth-man-of-the-year[/URL]

[QUOTE]Clarkson is a pure scorer and he’s dang good at it. When the Jazz just need a bucket however they can get it, Clarkson is the man they often go to. He creates chances out of nowhere and then makes those shots.


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too bad he misses so many more while his teammates stand around watching

[QUOTE]To put his offensive impact in perspective, FiveThirtyEight’s RAPTOR puts Clarkson (+3.3 O-RAPTOR) above Devin Booker (+3.2). Now that’s not a universal claim of offensive metrics but B-Ball Index’s LEBRON has Clarkson’s offensive impact as the second best among “Secondary Ball-Handlers” behind Brandon Ingram so Clarkson is clearly among the better in the league on offense.


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he's maybe the biggest gunner ever. Not efficient

[QUOTE]Firstly, he’s a negative defender and has been all his career. Defensive metrics like Box Plus-Minus, RAPTOR and LEBRON all have Clarkson as a negative on that side of the ball. Cleaning the Glass’ on/off data paints Clarkson as a disaster on defense with the Jazz allowing 6.3 more points per 100 possessions with him on the court, a number in the 8th percentile.


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luckily we can blame Gobert! :facepalm

[QUOTE]Secondly, Clarkson’s 3-point shooting is not nearly effective enough for the volume he takes them at. Clarkson was the worst 3-point shooter in Utah’s regular rotation last year (with the obvious exception of Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors). This is not only true for raw 3-point percentage, but also catch-and-shoot percentages. And yet he was one of the league leaders in attempts from beyond the arc.


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what a joke!

[QUOTE]Whether Clarkson will once again reach 18 points per game is hard to say. If he increases his percentages Clarkson could reach 20 PPG. It’s also possible Bojan Bogdanovic has a resurgent year and cuts into Clarkson’s volume. And depending on how good Jared Butler is, Clarkson could have some of his part of the pie given to the rookie.


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with any luck Bojan will take his place as 6th man and he'll be playing elsewhere

[QUOTE]Clarkson is a lot of fun to watch when the crazy shots are falling, but he could really help the team out by being more selective with his field goal attempts.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/13/22654338/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-jordan-clarkson-sixth-man-of-the-year#544573860"]Sep 14, 2021 | 9:40 AM[/URL]
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I don't enjoy watching him no matter how many shots he's hitting


[QUOTE][B]Snyder has no other plans/schemes/strategies to adjust to[/B]



Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/statpower"]statpower[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/9/13/22654338/2021-utah-jazz-player-profile-jordan-clarkson-sixth-man-of-the-year#544590499"]Sep 14, 2021 | 6:38 PM[/URL]
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give that man an extension already! :lol

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/9/14/22672144/utah-jazz-what-if-alternate-realities[/url]

they wouldn't be in Utah. Already had a better player in Dantley

[QUOTE]What if the Jazz decided not to trade him? Sharing the court with Adrian Dantley might not have been the most natural fit, and he likely would have gotten fewer touches as a rookie, but Wilkins would have earned plenty of minutes and touches very quickly. Wilkins was averaging 30 points per game by his fourth season in Atlanta. He would have blossomed similarly in Utah, and the Jazz would have been a better team. The big question then becomes, do the Jazz become too good in his first couple of seasons?
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debatable if they become a better team

[QUOTE]But, just for argument’s sake, what if Malone and Stockton somehow did end up joining The Human Highlight Film in Utah? Well, Dominique answered that question himself in a 2018 [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2018/1/23/20625362/former-jazz-pick-dominique-wilkins-feels-he-could-ve-won-titles-playing-with-stockton-and-malone#former-atlanta-hawks-star-and-nba-hall-of-famer-dominique-wilkins-greets-fans-in-front-of-a-recently-unveiled-statue-of-himself-outside-the-philips-arena-before-an-nba-between-the-hawks-and-cleveland-cavaliers-friday-march-6-2015-in-atlanta-ap-photo-john-bazemore"]interview with Eric Woodyard[/URL]; “Playing with Stockton and Malone, we probably could’ve won a few championships,” Wilkins said. “Not probably, we would’ve, but again, things happen in life for a reason, and you’ve got to take what cards are dealt...”


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doubtful. One of the most overrated players ever

[QUOTE]Of course, we can’t see the alternate reality in which Magic Johnson played for the Jazz, so we don’t know exactly what would have happened, but we can guess. I’d think that both the Dantley trade and the King trade still happen. The Lakers were disappointed with Dantley’s decreased production since joining them and wanted a strong role player in exchange. The Jazz would have still had interest in both Dantley and King, as they were both in their early twenties at the time and would have fit Johnson’s timeline. King likely still would have struggled in his short time with the Jazz and moved on right away, leaving the Jazz as a franchise new to Utah, with a bright future, boasting two young stars in Dantley and Johnson.


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you have no idea. Those guys make much less sense with Magic

[QUOTE]From that foundation, Jazz history would be drastically changed. There’s no way to predict who would have joined forces with Magic and AD, but that’s a core that could have won multiple titles.


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Magic is probably playing for titles regardless. who or where is the only questions

[QUOTE]Before we get into the scenario in which Hayward stays, let's first look at what would happen if he still chose Boston, but he made his decision quicker. Hayward’s now-infamous indecision cost Utah multiple opportunities. Most notably, Utah was in serious talks with All-Star point guard Kyle Lowry. According to the [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/11/08/gordon-hayward-is-back/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL], “the Jazz spoke extensively to Toronto point guard Kyle Lowry’s representatives about bringing the All-Star point guard to Utah. After those discussions, the Jazz felt confident about their ability to land Lowry but chose to pull out of any potential deal because signing Lowry would have required cap space earmarked for the Hayward.”
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They'd already traded for Rubio so I call bullshit on this one

[QUOTE]The Jazz of the last two seasons could have boasted a core of Conley, Mitchell, Hayward, and Gobert. Four All-Stars. In this reality, Utah would have had two really great chances at titles in 2019-20 and 2020-21.


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stupid to even talk about. He didn't want to be here

[QUOTE][h=3]What if the Utah Jazz had drafted Tony Parker?[/h]

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didn't fit. Lopez did

[QUOTE]There are so many more ‘what ifs’ we could go through. What if the two infamous shot clock calls in Game 6 of the 1998 Finals were called correctly? What if Utah drafted Chris Paul instead of Deron Williams? What if Mike Conley made the buzzer-beater in Game 7 against Denver? We could go on and on.


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what if COTY makes adjustments. What if Miller spends money. What if Mitchell plays D? What if Sloan gets fired for not getting the job done?

[QUOTE]What if Luther Wright wasn’t addicted to drugs?
After Mark Eaton’s back began giving him problems, his production dropped and his career was cut short. The Jazz spent the next 25 seasons wishing they had a decent center.
But they had drafted one! In 1993, right at the end of Eaton’s career, the Jazz drafted Luther Wright with the 18th pick. The man was huge, 7’2" and 325 lbs. Unfortunately, drug addiction and mental health problems resulted in him only playing 92 minutes in the NBA. He lived in a mental institution and then on the streets. His foot got frostbite and was amputated.
That’s a big What If? not only for the Jazz, but for the man himself. His life could have been so different.
John Stockton never mentioned Wright by name in his autobiography (Assisted), but he tells a story of a teammate coming to practice and telling the team that if someone offered him a million bucks or a handful of narcotics, he’d take the drugs. He told the team he couldn’t play anymore and left.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/9/14/22672144/utah-jazz-what-if-alternate-realities#544578093"]Sep 14, 2021 | 11:53 AM[/URL]
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Wright sucked. Eaton sucked. Got better once he was done.

[QUOTE][h=4]I prefer a what if scenario where Larry Miller was not so cheap[/h]
and he paid a little extra to bring someone to help two potential dynasties that never happened
The Stockton and Deron Williams

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/statpower"]statpower[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/9/14/22672144/utah-jazz-what-if-alternate-realities#544590397"]Sep 14, 2021 | 6:35 PM[/URL]
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someone was paying attention

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/14/utah-jazz-reacting-nba-2k22-rating/[/url]

[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz guard Trent Forrest[/h][I]2K rating: 69[/I]
No major surprises on this slide, where we’ll be covering the five lowest rated members of the Utah Jazz. Trent Forrest simply hasn’t had a ton of opportunity to showcase his abilities in the NBA, which is reflected in his low 69 overall 2K22 rating. Should Forrest find any opportunity to crack Quin Snyder’s regular rotation this season, it’s possible he’ll be able to leverage his passing ability into a few more 2K playmaking badges.
[h=2]Utah Jazz guard Elijah Hughes[/h][I]2K rating: 69[/I]
Hughes’ player archetype designation in NBA 2K22 is “Prospect”, which is effectively a code for “unknown entity”. The Utah Jazz will be hoping that Hughes finds an opportunity to establish what his skill set really is at the professional level, but he’ll need a fair amount of luck for that to happen. It’s hard to argue with his 2K rating, as he has not been in a position to give the game’s developers any reason to rate him any higher.
[h=2]Utah Jazz forward Jarrell Brantley[/h][I]2k rating: 70 [/I]
Brantley is the first Utah Jazz player to venture past the 70 overall benchmark. While Brantley has also received limited run over the course of his first two seasons in the NBA, he likely receives a rating boost for his solid defense (107 Defensive Rating, 1.6 Defensive Box Plus/Minus last season) and general athleticism. Advanced metrics are always deserving of scrutiny when applied to low-usage, low-minute players like Brantley, but his 16.6 Player Efficiency Rating (PER) from the 2020-21 season does raise eyebrows.
[h=2]Utah Jazz guard Miye Oni[/h][I]2k rating: 70 [/I]
If you’re somewhat surprised to see Oni get the 70 overall nod over teammates like Trent Forrest and Elijah Hughes, you’re not alone. Nothing in Oni’s statistical profile suggests that he’s worthy of a higher rating than either, as he has also played in an extremely limited capacity over the past two seasons for the Utah Jazz. It’s possible that his solid career 34.6% accuracy from three-point range factors into his overall NBA 2K22 rating.
[h=2]Utah Jazz center Udoka Azubuike[/h][I]2K rating: 70 [/I]
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Forrest should be higher than everyone there. Oni next, Then Brantley. Then Udoka way back from him and than Hughes with the lowest possible

[QUOTE]If you’re somewhat surprised to see Oni get the 70 overall nod over teammates like Trent Forrest and Elijah Hughes, you’re not alone. Nothing in Oni’s statistical profile suggests that he’s worthy of a higher rating than either, as he has also played in an extremely limited capacity over the past two seasons for the Utah Jazz. It’s possible that his solid career 34.6% accuracy from three-point range factors into his overall NBA 2K22 rating.




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nothing except actually playing

[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz guard Jared Butler[/h][I]2K rating: 70[/I]
Rookies are just harder for 2K to rate than any other type of player, as the developers don’t have the season prior to use as a frame of reference. If anything, Butler’s 70 overall rating is on the high end of any reasonable expectation for a 40th overall pick heading into their rookie season. Butler gets a decent rating for his solid, dependable, low maintenance style of play.
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[I]unproven guy getting as good or better than proven
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[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz forward Royce O’Neale[/h][I]
2k rating: 76 [/I]
Here, see a major leap forward for this Utah Jazz roster, as O’Neale is the first member of the team to crack the 75 overall threshold. We actually [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/18/utah-jazz-predicting-nba-2k22-rating/4/"]predicted that 2K was likely to underrate O’Neale some[/URL], as his value is predicated on intangibles, intensity and effort more than the game’s more highly rated players. His 76 overall rating is well-deserved vindication for both O’Neale and fans of the Utah Jazz in general.
[h=2]Utah Jazz forward Eric Paschall[/h][I]2k rating: 76[/I]
One interesting note about Paschall to come from the 2K world is his listing as a power forward/center. It seems that at least NBA 2K22 has bought into the notion that Paschall’s secondary position is small-ball 5. We’ve written about Utah’s need for such a player fairly extensively. Otherewise, Paschall earns a 76 overall rating as a versatile inside-out scorer who would have earned a higher grade with a stronger defensive presence.
[h=2]Utah Jazz forward Bojan Bogdanovic[/h][I]2k rating: 77 [/I]
Bojan Bogdanovic is simply too significant of an offensive force for the Utah Jazz to earn a rating any lower than the 77 he’s received. In spite of a marginal slippage in three-point volume and accuracy last season (39% on 6.4 attempts per game, down from 41.4% on 7.3 in 2019-20) Bogdanovic still likely receives a well-deserved A to A+ in three-point shooting, which enhances his rating. Throw in some shot creation badges, and Bogey finishes with a solid rating in spite of some likely mediocre defensive ratings.
[h=2]Utah Jazz center Hassan Whiteside[/h][I]2K rating: 78 [/I]
Whiteside is the first member of the Utah Jazz that we might venture to speculate is overrated in NBA 2K22. His per 36 minute averages of 19.3 points, 14.2 rebounds and 3.0 blocks per game are right in-line with his career averages. The issue is, we’ve reached the point in Whiteside’s career where his per 36 minutes numbers require significant extrapolation. Whiteside doesn’t see the floor time that he used to because frankly, he’s not a consistently reliable on-court decision maker. He’s still an ultra-effective rebounder and shot-blocker, which likely earns him this 78 overall rating.
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hilarious that any of them are ahead of O'Neale. Arguably the 3rd most important player on the Jazz

[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz guard Mike Conley Jr.[/h][I]2K rating: 83 [/I]
Mike Conley Jr.’s 2K rating is pretty reflective of his real-life standing in the National Basketball Association: [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/09/utah-jazz-mike-conley-best-value-signing/"]possibly underrated[/URL], but highly rated enough that it’s not outrageous either. As a 33-year old, it’s possible that Conley is a victim of some presumed regression in terms of his overall 2K rating. Father time, as they say, is undefeated, but Conley Jr. and the Utah Jazz will be hoping he can hold off his advances for one more season by playing at closer to the 85-87 level he’s reached at times throughout his career.
[h=2]Utah Jazz center Rudy Gobert[/h][I]2K rating: 88 [/I]
That Gobert manages to earn a rating commensurate to an All-NBA caliber player in spite of his absolute 0 three-point shooting speaks volumes about the value of his defensive presence. Frankly though, that shouldn’t be a surprise. Gobert is, after all, a four-time All-NBA Team member. He’ll protect the rim and collect rebounds more effectively than just about anybody in NBA 2K22, and rightfully so.
[h=2]Utah Jazz guard Donovan Mitchell[/h][I]2K rating: 88[/I]
Finally, Donovan Mitchell receives the same rating as his longtime running mate Gobert. Arguably, Mitchell has more room to upgrade this rating as the season passes. He’s considerably younger, and it feels more likely that he’ll make strides on defense than it does that Gobert will develop a reliable shooting touch. Regardless, 88 is a significantly high rating, and Mitchell earns it as the hub of this Utah Jazz offense. His 26.4 points per game from the 2020-21 season make him one of the most effective scoring guards in the National Basketball Association.
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Mitchell ahead of Conley and up with Gobert! :lol
Mitchelll will improve his D? :facepalm

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/13/utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-steph-curry/[/url]

rather see him play D and pass the ball

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/13/ranking-utah-jazz-player-25/[/url]

[QUOTE][h=2]5. Utah Jazz forward Elijah Hughes[/h]

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ahead of Oni! :roll:

[QUOTE]With averages of 16.0 points and 3.1 assists per game, Butler was the most important player on national title winning Baylor. He’ll undoubtably be hoping to win big prizes at the NBA level as well. With a [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/10/utah-jazz-free-agency-3-guards-rotation/"]potential vacancy in Quin Snyder’s guard rotation[/URL], Butler may have the opportunity to pursue those goals as a rotation player sooner rather than later.


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what vacancy?

[QUOTE]Azubuike is a rare athletic force in need of polish. Hopefully, he’ll learn from recently acquired Utah Jazz veteran [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/04/utah-jazz-free-agency-hassan-whiteside/"]Hassan Whiteside[/URL] this season, who was once a raw, athletic big man himself.


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Hassan isn't the guy you want him emulating!

[h=2]https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/13/utah-jazz-one-goal-every-player-starting/4/

[QUOTE]Utah Jazz forward Royce O’Neale[/h][I]2021-22 Goal: develop shot creation [/I]
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needs to keep doing what he's doing and play on the wing and shoot more when he's open

[QUOTE]Sometimes, defensive negligence arises out of the need to preserve energy, and that may hold true in Mitchell’s case, as he scored a team-leading 26.4 points per game for the Utah Jazz last season. Ultimately, it’s that kind of offensive creation that elevates Mitchell to the position of being the most important player on his team.


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better hope Gobert doesn't get hurt. You'll see who's most important if you aren't smart enough to know now :facepalm

[url]https://kslsports.com/468058/36-jazz-wing-elijah-hughes/[/url]

looks like you shouldn't have went with 50 if you need this scrub to fill space

[QUOTE]In Utah, however, Hughes has been asked to adopt a different role, primarily focusing on his shooting and defense, neither of which were his leading strengths at Syracuse.


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yeah once again he made little sense. A two year guaranteed deal even less

[QUOTE]Hughes did see a significant improvement in his efficiency during summer league with the Jazz when he shot a much more promising 41 percent from the floor and 36 percent from the three-point line. The former Syracuse star also[URL="https://www.nba.com/summer-league/2021/vegas/player-stats"] averaged[/URL] 14 points, 3.8 rebounds, and 1.8 assists over the [URL="https://kslsports.com/466207/what-we-did-and-didnt-learn-from-jazz-summer-league/"]summer[/URL].


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very unimpressive still

[QUOTE]With an impressive 6-foot-5 frame and a 6-foot-7 wingspan, Hughes has the size to be a 3-and-D contributor for the Jazz. Whether or not gets there comes in at number 36 in the KSL Sports 50 story countdown to opening night.

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average wingspan. Not a great shooter. :cry:

[url]https://kslsports.com/468041/salt-lake-city-stars-unveil-schedule-g-league-tournament/[/url]

The Stars finished with the second-worst record in Orlando winning just four of their 15 games.
part was Udoka was hurt in first game and Hughes was hurt and sucked. No Forrest, Morgan, Oni etc.

[QUOTE]The 30 teams have been split up into four regional divisions where each team will play 12 games. Teams will face off in back-to-back matchups to limit travel requirements, and the teams with the best winning percentage in each region will get automatic bids to compete for the Showcase Cup.


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time for every NBA team to have an affiliate and a true minor league

[QUOTE]Tim MacMahon: Sources: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rockets and PG Dante Exum are close to agreeing to creatively structured deal that would be three years, nonguaranteed and heavy on incentives that fall under “likely bonuses” definition. Deal would be worth up to about $15M, roughly half of which would be incentives[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon"]Twitter espn_macmahon[/URL]



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how does he keep getting paid? :facepalm

[QUOTE]Tim MacMahon: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Because the incentives would officially be considered likely bonuses, they would be included in outgoing salary if Dante Exum were to be traded. Per sources, incentives discussed are based on Exum’s average minutes and plus-minus in games played[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon"]Twitter espn_macmahon[/URL]



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he might owe them money with those incentives! :lol

[url]https://kslsports.com/468088/35-three-jazz-players-after-the-olympics/[/url]

[QUOTE]Additionally, how does the satisfaction of winning a bronze medal for Australia change Ingles outlook on his future as a professional basketball player heading into the final season of his contract? And, is Gobert motivated by falling just short of Olympic gold?


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Gobert is always motivated

[url]https://kslsports.com/468078/jazz-practice-facility-gets-black-and-white-makeover/[/url]

black jerseys!