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[url]https://kslsports.com/457606/gobert-mitchell-receive-mvp-vote-in-espn-straw-poll/[/url]
[QUOTE]Mitchell meanwhile earned one second-place vote, one third-place vote, and two fifth-place votes to come in 11th.
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:facepalm
[QUOTE]Mitchell is in contention to earn his first All-NBA nod. The guard is averaging 26.5 points, 5.3 assists, and 4.4 rebounds per game while helping lead the Jazz to the best record in the NBA at 41-14.
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Would be a joke and a big blow to the Jazz future
[url]https://kslsports.com/457588/jazz-clarkson-has-had-several-ankle-injuries-crack-in-hand/[/url]
[QUOTE]As it turns out, there might be a good reason for that. Clarkson said he experienced a hand injury just before the NBA’s All-Star break which coincides with his downturn in efficiency.
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might have been a good time to work on your passing
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50147550/gov-spencer-cox-utah-will-have-the-biggest-parade-in-state-history-if-jazz-win-nba-title[/url][QUOTE]
"The answer is a resounding yes! There is no question! We will have the biggest parade in our state's history if the Jazz win the NBA Finals," Cox said during a Thursday interview with [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ksl-com-the-know-podcast/id1528985279"]KSL.com's The Know Podcast[/URL].[/QUOTE]
dream on
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/16/22387221/nba-power-rankings-roundup-utah-jazz-espn-sports-illustrated-cbs-nbc[/url]
[QUOTE]“Donovan Mitchell became the first Utah player since Karl Malone to score at least 35 points in three straight games, according to ESPN Stats & Information research. The Jazz’s wins this week over the Trail Blazers and Kings, which extended the franchise-record home winning streak to 24 games, marked the first contests this season that Utah won with Mitchell taking at least 25 shots from the floor. The Jazz were previously 0-5 in such games.” — [I]Tim MacMahon[/I][/QUOTE]
way to go gunner!
[QUOTE]They survived another poor shooting night from beyond the arc when Donovan Mitchell shot 9-for-12 on non-restricted-area 2-pointers against Portland. Two nights later, he had his third straight game of 37 points or more despite shooting 12-for-31 from the floor, getting to the line for 17 free throw attempts ([URL="https://www.nba.com/stats/search/player-game/?CF=MINUTES*gt*0&SeasonType=Regular%20Season,Playoffs&PlayerID=1628378&sort=FTA&dir=1"]one off his career high[/URL]). Prior to that win over the Kings, the Jazz were 3-10 in Mitchell’s career ([URL="https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628378/boxscores-usage/?CF=USG_PCT*GE*40&Season=2020-21&SeasonType=Regular%20Season"]0-3 this season[/URL]) when he had a usage rate of 40% or higher.
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what do I know?
[QUOTE][INDENT]“Donovan Mitchell has been the Jazz’s top option since the moment he arrived in Utah, though he’s truly arrived as an elite leading man in 2020–21 with a career-high 26.3 points per game. Mitchell’s proficiency from three has been a major cause behind his progression. He’s shooting 38.6% on all triples this year, and he’s been especially dynamic as a three-point shooter off the dribble. Only five players have hit more off-the-dribble threes this season, with Mitchell’s 36.3% mark on those shots outpacing James Harden and Damian Lillard. Mitchell’s ability to drive and finish at the rim has never been in question. It’s his efficiency from beyond the arc that’s fueling Utah’s dominant season.”— [I]Michael Shapiro[/I]
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it's not but thanks for playing
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/4/16/22387468/utah-jazz-vs-indiana-pacers-preview-game-thread[/url]
[QUOTE]With Favors likely out and Udoka Azubuike unavailable, Utah is suddenly short on good backup centers for Rudy Gobert. A situation like this may very well be why the Jazz decided to sign Ersan Ilyasova. Of the minutes he’s played in Utah so far (a whopping 44), about 72 percent of them have seen Illyasova playing center, which is a bit of a departure from everywhere else. Ilyasova has never had a season where he’s played more at center than at power forward (and it’s usually not even close)
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I thought he was signed because he's a PF but with Forrest and Thomas playing over him I guess not
[QUOTE]Another option is Juwan Morgan. A little over half his career minutes have been at the five despite standing a relatively short 6-foot-7.
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Similar wingspan to Ersan. Brantley might be the longest. Should be Morgan you'd think but again with COTY who knows
[QUOTE]Drew was also a strong rebounder and defender, averaging more than four boards per game and at least 0.8 steals per game in each of his three seasons with the franchise.
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44 games
[QUOTE]A 2006 second-round pick out of Louisiana Tech for the Utah Jazz, Paul Millsap instantly landed All-Rookie honors the following season. And he then eventually became a full-time starter at power forward in Salt Lake City, averaging more than 30 minutes per game in four different campaigns, before bolting to the Atlanta Hawks as a free agent in 2013.
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not sure bolting is the best word for being kicked out of town
[QUOTE]The 6-foot-7, 230-pound forward’s 2002-03 campaign was particularly impressive given his career-high 41.3 percent clip from 3-point land in addition to his 32.8 minutes per game as a member of the final starting lineup to feature both John Stockton and Karl Malone.
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Only year he hit 3's. He was good. Ahead of Conley, Millsap etc?
[QUOTE]A fairly efficient scorer around the rim. A consistently strong rebounder. A highly capable shot-blocker.
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inefficient black hole
[QUOTE]All in all, Jeff Malone was the third most important piece for Utah during the early 90s, trailing only Karl Malone and John Stockton in this regard. The 6-foot-4 shooting guard, a former No. 10 overall selection out of Mississippi State from the 1983 NBA Draft, was never an All-Star in Salt Lake City, yet he never averaged fewer than 16 points per game as a Jazzman.
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He sucked!
[QUOTE]A part-time starter throughout his nine years in Salt Lake City, the former second-rounder out of Cal State Long Beach averaged double-digit points four times. And most importantly, every Jazz squad the key athletic role player laced ’em up for wound up reaching the playoffs.
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they made the playoffs for 2 decades straight. Not because of him
[QUOTE]As a slashing and sharpshooting Jazzman, Gordon Hayward always seemed to be on the verge of full-fledged NBA stardom while playing for the franchise that drafted him No. 9 overall at the 2010 NBA Draft.
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superstar?
[QUOTE]Then as an NBA sophomore, Bailey became a more potent scorer, averaging 15.2 points to go along with 6.6 rebounds and 1.3 blocks. His scoring average didn’t fall back to single-digits until 1992-93 when he was with the Minnesota Timberwolves. Also worth noting, he never played in fewer than 80 games in any of his first nine seasons with the Jazz.
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Loved Thurl but ahead of Hayward?
[QUOTE]A former second-round pick from Turkey who arrived in Salt Lake City as a free agent in 2004, fresh off his title run as a key reserve for the 2003-04 Detroit Pistons, the multifaceted stretch big man scored at least 12 points per game in all of his seasons in Utah except his last. Meanwhile, he also consistently grabbed seven or more rebounds per game.
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ahead of Hayward and Green? :roll:
[QUOTE]However, Eaton, a former auto mechanic out of high school whose lone All-Star nod came alongside teammates Karl Malone and John Stockton in 1989, never averaged double-digit points.
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he sucked
[QUOTE]However, the Jazz never reached the playoffs during his most lethal three-year span.
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the fact that he almost single handedly got them there means more than a role player being carried there
[QUOTE]Unless current Jazzman Jordan Clarkson keeps up his torrid pace at the foul line this season, Hornacek’s 95.0 free throw percentage across his final season in Salt Lake City will continue to stand as Utah’s record.
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when he should have been coming off the bench but the Jazz are too loyal
[QUOTE]Maravich, a three-time All-Star while a Jazzman who came to New Orleans for the inaugural season in a trade from the Atlanta Hawks, ranked No. 1 in the NBA with his average of 31.1 points across the 1976-77 campaign. And he wound up No. 3 in the MVP race that year.
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7 guys ahead of him! :roll:
[QUOTE]Fortunately for the Utah Jazz, the 6-foot-9 chiseled forward spent the bulk of his prime years in Salt Lake City, reaching the NBA All-Star Game in 2007 and 2008 (also All-NBA Third Team in 2007-08).
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ahead of Pistol! :lol
[QUOTE]Currently, as the Utah Jazz reign in the Western Conference standings, Mitchell ranks No. 9 in the NBA at 26.5 points per game. With explosive drives, unguardable jukes, top-shelf hang time, and creative finishes, the Louisville basketball product is inching closer and closer to the MVP conversation.
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Mitchell ahead of HOFers and Deron. :oldlol:
[QUOTE]However, given the long-limbed Frenchman’s persistent limitations on the offensive end of the floor from one year to the next in addition to the offensive prowess of his teammate from the previous slide here, Gobert is in danger of soon falling a spot on this list.
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This gets better than better. He is 3 and unless Mitchell shows he can carry the team someday without Rudy he should never be ahead of him
[QUOTE]Now, Dantley continues to stand as the only Jazzman in history to average more than 30 points per game in four different seasons; obviously, Donovan Mitchell is likely the only present-day Utah player with any chance to someday match that feat.
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and Mitchell will never be as good. Not even close
[QUOTE]True, unlike his longtime teammate, Stockton never snagged any NBA MVP hardware despite Utah’s winning ways in its glory days. Of course, had Stockton not been on those squads, the general assumption is there’s no way Malone would have either.
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give you credit for this one. I'd have John 1 too
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/04/15/utah-jazz-50-greatest-players-history/[/url]
[QUOTE]But given the unique circumstances of his stint in Utah, it does seem fitting to go ahead and recognize him here at the get-go. Because on May 23, 1980, at age 25 and less than two months removed from his lone campaign with the Jazz, Furlow died in a car accident.
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too bad. What a season he had for a tanking team
[QUOTE]An All-Defensive First Team selection at age 25 in his final season with the franchise, Coleman was both a strong rebounder and lockdown defender.
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his numbers certainly didn't warrant it otherwise
[QUOTE]That said, given Spencer’s utter size and the countless double-teams that Karl Malone’s presence demanded back in those days from Jazz opponents, it seems that the 7-foot, 265-pounder could have offered a tad more in terms of intimidating opponents on either end of the floor.
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he was too big and slow. Was good before he got hurt though
[QUOTE]Plus, take into consideration the fact Carr was generally seen as a fan favorite and that his exit to the Houston Rockets at age 36 just so happened to mark the start of Utah’s gradual decline from being a legit perennial title threat.
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should have been gone after his 2nd year
[QUOTE]The 6-foot-9 forward twice finished among the top 10 in the NBA in blocked shots per game (1979-80 and 1980-81).
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might have been a stretch 4 today
[QUOTE]As already one of the premier high-volume shooters off the bench in franchise history, [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/clarkjo01.html"]Jordan Clarkson[/URL] certainly has a shot to climb high on this ranking in years to come should the 6-foot-4 guard stay put in Salt Lake City. On the other end of the floor, however, his play leaves plenty to be desired.
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with any luck this will be his last season here
[QUOTE]And even though the 6-foot-9 big man largely served as a role player off the bench during his time in Salt Lake City, he admirably started 75 games at center for a 1997-98 Utah team that won 62 regular-season games and reached the NBA Finals.
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I liked Keefe a lot but this here is a big reason why the Jazz have never won
[QUOTE]Of course, had Marshall stuck around as a Jazzman, he would have lived with wildly unfair expectations due to his often being tagged as the heir apparent to then-aging Jazz legend Karl Malone.
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He was their low post threat when he was here. Too bad they were cheap and didn't keep him or let him shoot 3's
[QUOTE]And Bogdanovic isn’t one of the better defenders in Utah.
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Take Donyell and many more over him anyday
[QUOTE]Finally, Hansen’s known defensive prowess on the perimeter helps to break the tie he was in with several of the names that came before him here.
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he sucked
[QUOTE]A soft-spoken, unassuming player, Eisley was originally cut by the Jazz following the 1995-96 preseason. But he came back to town a few months later after earning praise from Utah head coach Jerry Sloan for his high IQ and top-notch work ethic, which he had put on display in what was the Continental Basketball Association.
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like most Stockton backups he sucked
[QUOTE]Although the 7-foot center out of Stanford never delivered to the level of his last few years in New Orleans, he was a part-time starter for those three seasons around the age of 30. And those Kelley years in Salt Lake City included the Jazz seeing their first two playoff appearances, which then turned into 20 in a row between the Frank Layden and Jerry Sloan tenures as head coach.
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I liked him. Probably best center after Rudy in their history though I only saw his 2nd stint
[QUOTE]And from 2013-14 through 2015-16, Burks’ scoring average never dipped below 13 points per game, albeit he never played more than 31 games in the latter two seasons of that three-year span.
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another one I'd rather have than Clarkson. Imagine if Quin had let him loose like that!
[QUOTE]As the Utah Jazz’s former selection at No. 23 overall out of Duke from the 2014 NBA Draft, Rodney Hood looked to be a budding star in the league across his first 3.5 seasons as a pro before landing with the Cleveland Cavaliers in 2018 as part of a three-team trade.
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star?
[QUOTE]Actually, to be fair, the 6-foot-6, 210-pound forward earned a part-time role as a starter in his final two years with the franchise, most notably averaging 11.6 points and 6.3 rebounds while tallying 58 regular-season starts for a 1992-93 team that finished 47-35.
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he was good
[QUOTE]Ostertag’s defensive rating twice ranked among the top 10 in the league, and so did his total rebound percentage. In fact, back in his 1999-00 campaign, the former No. 28 overall selection out of Kansas from the 1995 NBA Draft finished No. 1 in the NBA in block percentage (8.2).
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too bad they didn't appreciate what they had
[QUOTE]Despite the 6-foot-7, 220-pound wing’s relative youth at the time, he started alongside Deron Williams, Mehmet Okur, Carlos Boozer, and Andrei Kirilenko for a 2007-08 squad that won 54 regular-season games and ultimately reached the Western Conference Semifinals.
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perfect fit with Okur. Never had much luck elsewhere without a shot
[QUOTE]In fact, those two seasons account for two of the active 10-year NBA veteran’s top three season scoring averages to date. Plus, don’t overlook the fact Rubio finished No. 12 in the league with his 1.6 steals in 2017-18 or the fact that he was money from the foul line.
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matador D for steals! :lol
[QUOTE]Plus, considering his choice to return to Salt Lake City as a free agent after spending the 2019-20 season with the New Orleans Pelicans, Favors’ loyalty to the Jazz is definitely worth a couple of bonus points here.
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another point against the franchise for not knowing what is good for them
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert, on Donovan Mitchell: “I saw him in the locker room — he was in great spirits, so hopefully he can be back very soon.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“We hope that it’s nothing serious. They’re in the process of doing everything they can to assess that.” Quin Snyder on Donovan Mitchell[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]
Tony East: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“I think their defense – we’ve got to give them credit,” Caris LeVert said of the Jazz[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/TEastNBA"]Twitter TEastNBA[/URL]
J. Michael Falgoust: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]LeVert: “We played not to lose as opposed to playing to win. When you play like that you’re not going to be successful.”[/URL] #PacersJazz
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ThisIsJMichael"]Twitter ThisIsJMichael[/URL]
[QUOTE]Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder, on what determines if Mike Conley plays both halves of a B2B: “Rudy’s got a crystal that we consult, and we rub it for awhile and try to come up with a result that Mike likes.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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Should beat the Lakers regardless though Forrest might have to play. Too bad Hughes is wasting a roster spot!
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]FINAL: Jazz 119, Pacers 111. Utah rallies from 17p deficit in 1H, and from 9p deficit when Donovan Mitchell went down in 3Q. Jazz ratchet up the defense, hold Pacers to 42p in 2H. Bogey 24p, Don 22 in 21 minutes, JC with 18p. Rudy with 13p, 23r, 4b[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jazz have confirmed that Donovan Mitchell will undergo an MRI tonight[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell will receive an MRI tonight just to make sure there’s no structural damage[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
Montrezl Harrell: [URL="https://*********.com/social/tweets/"]Aye Spidda my boi get well PRAYERS UP @Donovan Mitchell[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MONSTATREZZ"]Twitter MONSTATREZZ[/URL]
Mike Conley: [URL="https://*********.com/social/tweets/"]My guy! Welcome to Utah! @Dwyane Wade[/URL] pic.twitter.com/gfBnpSAkMb
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– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MCONLEY10"]Twitter MCONLEY10[/URL]
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[h=3][URL="https://*********.com/rumor/mike-conley-echoes-that-donovan-mitchell-was-in-good-spirits-following-the-game/"]Mike Conley echoes that Donovan Mitchell was in good spirits following the game[/URL][/h]Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Mike Conley echoed that Donovan Mitchell is in good spirits, cracking jokes after the game[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Mike Conley, on talking to Donovan Mitchell postgame: “He was in good spirits. Obviously frustrated with the injury and how it happened. But he’s the ultimate teammate, rooting for us, making jokes.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Ben Anderson: Conley on the Donovan Mitchell injury. [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“Seeing him limp off it wasn’t good, and that he probably wasn’t coming back to this game or might be out for a little bit. At that point, our team kind of got together and decided hey, this is part of the game, this is what we have to do[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]
Melissa Rohlin: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Mike Conley on if rash of injuries is related to compressed sched: “We understood coming into this yr, even going into the bubble, that this season was going to be different, this season was going to be compressed & we’re going to have to take care of our bodies the best we can.[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/melissarohlin"]Twitter melissarohlin
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Melissa Rohlin: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Conley (continued) “…because we know that injuries do come from lack of rest and not having as many days off and having to travel every night.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/melissarohlin"]Twitter melissarohlin[/URL]
[h=3][URL="https://*********.com/rumor/erik-spoelstra-has-mixed-emotions-about-dwyane-wade-joining-the-jazzs-ownership-group/"]Erik Spoelstra has 'mixed emotions' about Dwyane Wade joining the Jazz's ownership group[/URL][/h]Brady Hawk: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Erik Spoelstra on Dwyane Wade joining Utah’s organization, “I have mixed emotions, since I always see Dwyane in the black and red.” But continues to discuss how happy he is for him and it’s the perfect fit for his future[/URL] @5ReasonsSports
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BradyHawk305"]Twitter BradyHawk305[/URL]
Magic Johnson: [URL="http://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/status/1383176178014380033"]I want to congratulate @Dwyane Wade for becoming an owner of the NBA’s Utah Jazz! D Wade is really building a business empire and I’m so proud of him!! [IMG]https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.0.1/svg/1f44f-1f3fe.svg[/IMG][/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson"]Twitter MagicJohnson[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell is undergoing treatment and has opted not to address the media after all[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic said he didn’t see Donovan’s injury in real time but saw video of it afterward: “I hope it was not intentional. That’s all I got to say about his injury.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Mike Conley said that his advice to Donovan Mitchell on dealing with injury is to remain patient and not to rush the process[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
[url]https://kslsports.com/457700/wild-day-culminates-in-jazz-win-after-mitchell-ankle-injury/[/url]
[QUOTE]Though the Jazz won the game, their string of slow starts has become an issue and will plague them if Mitchell misses extended games with the team. Dating back to their loss to Dallas on April 5, the Jazz have trailed by as much as 10 in five of their last seven games, and by at least seven in every outing.
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he's a big reason for the slow starts. Maybe the main one
[QUOTE]Gobert now has at least 20 rebounds in five different games this season. Prior to this year, the All-NBA center had never reached the mark more than three times in a single season.
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Except for last year's shortened season he had a PF net to him
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[url]https://kslsports.com/457693/gobert-conley-lead-jazz-to-win-over-pacers-after-mitchell-leaves-with-injury/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz battled back late in the second quarter after trailing by nearly 20 points and cut the Pacers’ advantage to nine with one minute left until halftime. Donovan Mitchell single-handedly brought them back by scoring 10 straight points for the Jazz. Indiana stopped a Jazz 7-0 run for a moment before Mitchell scored again to keep them within seven points. Malcolm Brogdon hit a three-pointer with six seconds left to put them up by 10 points. Caris LeVert stole the inbound pass and nailed a corner three to put the Pacers up by 13 at the half. They outscored the Jazz 37-32 in the second quarter and was up 69-56.
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Mitchell single handedly went on a 7-0 run :facepalm
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50148649/donovan-mitchells-mri-reveals-no-structural-damage[/url]
Utah also listed Rudy Gobert (right knee contusion) and Mike Conley (right knee soreness) as questionable, and Derrick Favors (right knee soreness) as doubtful for Saturday's matinee contest against the Lakers. Wojnarowski reported that all three are expected to miss that game.
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/4/16/22388285/utah-jazz-indiana-pacers-game-recap-donovan-mitchell-injury[/url]
[QUOTE]It was a back and forth battle between 2 good teams in the 1st quarter. I’m really interested to watch Indiana come together now that Caris LeVert is playing again and getting acclimated to his new team. I think the most surprising thing about this 1st quarter was Illysova getting early burn. Especially after the way Brantley played last game, I think he deserves more minutes with the regular rotation. The Jazz really struggled to score midway through the quarter and the Pacers took advantage, building an 8 point lead after one.
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you really expect it? The fact that Ersan is playing over Morgan tells you all you need to know about COTY
[QUOTE]I do worry about the defense without Faves. He’s getting old, but he’s still by leaps and bounds the second best post defender we have and we badly need him healthy.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/GregOstertagged"]GregOstertagged[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/4/16/22388285/utah-jazz-indiana-pacers-game-recap-donovan-mitchell-injury#538939900"]Apr 16, 2021 | 4:05 PM[/URL]
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Morgan was great. Ersan looked ok. Brantley!
[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/262280/The-NBAs-Scoring-Boom-Part-2[/url]
[QUOTE]Boasting a 41-14 record, the Utah Jazz are statistically the best team in the NBA this season. More, they are also perhaps the purest manifestation of the devastating interplay between talent and infrastructure. Donovan Mitchell, averaging 26.5 points per game with a 34.9 percent usage rate, is a superstar scorer—vibes-wise, at least. With the ball in his hands, he radiates [I]chutzpah; [/I]he pops into off-the-dribble jumpers after shaking defenders with tight crossovers; he bursts into the lane and evades defenders mid-air with cursive finishes; he does good dunks. If basketball were scored like Olympic diving or pommelhorse, his artistic instincts and degree of difficulty alone would promise a spot among the league’s elite. The end result of all this coolness is murkier. Basic on/off statistics may be rife with issues and blindspots, but it’s notable that the Jazz are 8.5 points per 100 possessions better when Mitchell is on the bench than when he is on the court (per Cleaning the Glass).
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my brother was worried when he went down yesterday. I told him the D and the ball movement just got a lot better and it did of course
[QUOTE]Leading the league in made three-pointers, the Jazz are paradoxically built around Rudy Gobert, a low-usage non-shooting center whose most notable offensive contribution is standing in people’s way. In addition to being basketball’s most dominant defender, Gobert moonlights as the silent fulcrum for Utah’s offense. Ceding control of the ball and the spotlight to Mitchell, Gobert traffics in subtle destabilization. His screens spring small advantages that Utah’s guards then turn into big ones; his gravity as a roller demands defensive attention, allowing shooters to slip undetected into open space. Despite his modest point totals, Gobert’s +12.7 net rating is fifth amongst all bigs (per Cleaning the Glass) and advanced metrics universally place Gobert as somewhere between the [URL="https://www.bball-index.com/2020-21-lebron-data/"]first[/URL] and [URL="https://apanalytics.shinyapps.io/DARKO/"]10th[/URL] most valuable player in the league
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:cheers:
Sarah Todd: Following an MRI and clinical evaluation, [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell suffered a significant right lower ankle sprain. He will be re-evaluated in one week[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah
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Eric Walden: As expected, [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert, Mike Conley and Derrick Favors have all been ruled OUT today in addition to Donovan Mitchell[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin, on being without Donovan for at least a week: “It’s a challenge for us to play without him, and obviously we want to get him back as soon as possible.[/URL] … Hopefully we can try to improve in some other ways.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Asked what he’s looking for with so many guys out, Quin said: “It’s difficult to play the way we normally would, but it puts a premium on ball movement, particularly against the Lakers’ pressure.[/URL] We’re gonna have to run as much as we can, have some guys be really aggressive.”
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Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder said the Jazz were hopeful they’d get Derrick Favors back for today’s game, but that it didn’t happen. Said “he’s dealing with some things.”[/URL]
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Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Joe Ingles, on the Jazz’s 4Q comeback: “It’s why we do what we do. We wanna compete, we wanna win. I compete with Renae at home. I compete with my children over things.”[/URL]
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Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ersan Ilyasova: “This is the beauty of the team — everybody’s ready. … If you do your work and get your name called, you go out there and do your job.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder on Ersan Ilyasova’s early outburst: “That’s one of the things he’s capable of doing.[/URL] His aggressiveness tonight is something we want.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
[url]https://kslsports.com/457790/jazz-fall-to-lakers-now-tied-with-suns-in-loss-column/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=2]Jazz Reserves Nearly Steal Game In Regulation[/h]
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gave it away. Thanks COTY. Glad you're smarter than everybody
[QUOTE]Ilyasova matched his career-high with six made threes but fouled out midway through the overtime period to leave the Jazz shot on experienced bodies.
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Morgan has experience. Brantley and Oni have more than Forrest and know the system better than Thomas
[QUOTE]With a fully healthy Jazz roster, it’s improbable that Ilyasova finds major minutes in the rotation. But, the veteran’s performance likely gave Snyder confidence to use him in a playoff game if the team needed him in a pinch.
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If they face the Lakers him, Morgan and Brantley will need to play to have any chance
[QUOTE]The Jazz also relied heavily on little-used Trent Forrest, Matt Thomas, Jarrell Brantley, Juwan Morgan, and Miye Oni who combined to play more than 45 of the Jazz 67 bench minutes. While George Niang scored nine points for the Jazz, the other five reserves scored just six points total, all of which came from Morgan highlighting the team’s inexperience towards the end of the roster.
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Highlites COTY not playing Morgan, Oni and Brantley more and relying too much on Clarkson and Bojan
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[url]https://kslsports.com/457786/jordan-clarkson-hits-clutch-three-pointer-for-jazz-late-in-regulation/[/url]
[QUOTE]In the extra period, the Lakers took over and outscored the Jazz 17-5 to pick up a 127-115 win. Clarkson finished with 27 points on 11-of-27 shooting from the field and 5-for-15 from the three-point line. He got the start as did Ersan Ilyasova and Joe Ingles. Donovan Mitchell, Mike Conley, Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors did not play.
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funny you never show Mitchell's efficiency just how he carried them :roll:
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50148765/a-surprisingly-fun-game-ends-with-shorthanded-jazz-losing-to-shorthanded-lakers-in-ot[/url]
[QUOTE]"We were just trying to find different guys that could make plays and kind of connect together," Snyder said. "That's not always that apparent in a short time so you're guessing on some level — obviously an educated guess but we had a lot of guys that came in and gave us contributions."
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What is educated about your 10th man all year becoming the last guy on the bench or the guy that had been your 3rd center since last year suddenly not being any good or the guy that just gave you 20 great minutes barely seeing the floor while a rookie and the newest guy play?
[QUOTE]And who would have expected that without two of their best ball-handlers and shooters, the Jazz still would have 31 assists and hit 23 3s?
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No Mitchell. Almost everyone on the team can shoot including the bigs that played. Not really surprising
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/17/22373707/instant-analysis-depleted-jazz-lose-to-lakers-in-overtime[/url]
[QUOTE]Jordan Clarkson was relentless on Saturday. He continued to push and attack throughout the game, and in the end it was Clarkson who the Jazz decided to give the ball to when the game was on the line. He converted on the Jazz’s biggest shot, hitting a 3 with 8.7 seconds left in regulation. Clarkson played 46 minutes and 7 seconds in just his second game after missing four straight with an ankle sprain. In overtime he was less effective on the offensive end but he wouldn’t give up on the hustle plays. He finished with 27 points, five rebounds and four assists.
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played like he always does except in twice as many minutes. Actually started the game good passing the ball. COTY must have tole him to take over! :roll:
[QUOTE]If we’re being honest, the best thing about this game for the Jazz is that they are able to take a lot of positives from the way the mostly bench lineup was able to play down the stretch of regulation, and even though they lost, it doesn’t say much of anything about the Jazz as a team.
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it says a lot about what they could be and won't be thanks to their coach
[QUOTE]O’Neale had a couple of big dunks and a shot clock-beating 3-pointer. His shooting percentages were not great but he was less hesitant, and hopefully for him the buckets he was able to hit will give him a little more confidence moving forward.
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He was plenty hesitant until he was forced to take shots with the clock running down
[QUOTE]The Lakers defense — even without LeBron James and Anthony Davis — is formidable, and that should really be the Jazz’s biggest takeaway from this game. They already know what Dennis Schroder is capable of on drives and the quickness that he plays with, but contending with the Lakers defense is going to be a challenge if these teams happen to meet in the playoffs. Even without Donovan Mitchell, Mike Conley, Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors playing on Saturday, there are lessons that can be taken from this game.
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their D wasn't that good. With Gobert and Conley the Jazz's should be a lot better
[QUOTE]Scott Foster feels like the one official in the league who needs to assert himself as the dominant force every night. I don’t know how Clarkson got a technical foul while he was dribbling and being fouled, but I guess whatever he said was enough to earn the Jazz their second technical of the game. The first one came from Bogdanovic complaining after a drive, which is old hat at this point. Still, I hate punishing players for being passionate and invested in the game.
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I have no problem with it. Difference between passion and whining
Marc Stein: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Dwyane Wade’s broadcast role with Turner Sports’ NBA coverage is not expected to change after it was announced Friday that he has purchased a minority stake in the Utah Jazz, according to a network source. Look for Wade in his usual studio role Tuesday on TNT’s next doubleheader[/URL].
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[QUOTE]Just like when both Bryant and James won five NBA titles, Clarkson’s main source of motivation points toward collecting championship hardware. Unlike when Bryant and James both won Finals and regular-season MVP awards, Clarkson’s other source of motivation points toward becoming the NBA’s Sixth Man of the Year. [URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/04/19/after-learning-kobe-lebron-jordan-clarkson-thriving-jazz/7248779002/"]“If we’re winning games and we’re doing that, I’ll be rewarded for that,” Clarkson told USA TODAY Sports. “I feel like this is that time and that moment where I’ve impacted the game.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/04/19/after-learning-kobe-lebron-jordan-clarkson-thriving-jazz/7248779002/"]Mark Medina @ USA Today Sports[/URL]
[URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/04/19/after-learning-kobe-lebron-jordan-clarkson-thriving-jazz/7248779002/"]“If the Sixth Man of the Year award comes and I don’t get it, I don’t need the validation because my teammates, coaching staff and a lot of my peers gave me that,” Clarkson said.[/URL] “They’re telling me, ‘I respect what you do’ and all of that. So, I know that goes a long way as well. But it’s definitely something I want to get accomplished one of these years. Hopefully it’s this year.”
– via [URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/04/19/after-learning-kobe-lebron-jordan-clarkson-thriving-jazz/7248779002/"]Mark Medina @ USA Today Sports[/URL]
So after a regular-season loss in Portland, Bryant chewed out his younger teammates over their attitude, work habits and decision making. [URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/04/19/after-learning-kobe-lebron-jordan-clarkson-thriving-jazz/7248779002/"]“I remember him just really getting upset,” Clarkson said. “You’ve seen him come out of his skin and grill us a little bit. But from that point on, I felt all of us had a different look at everything with what we wanted to do.[/URL] That’s probably, in terms of development, a little wake-up call.”
– via [URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2021/04/19/after-learning-kobe-lebron-jordan-clarkson-thriving-jazz/7248779002/"]Mark Medina @ USA Today Sports[/URL]
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you shouldn't. Gunner. Ingles should win it
[url]https://kslsports.com/457821/nba-says-officials-made-two-incorrect-calls-in-jazz-lakers-game/[/url]
[QUOTE]In the [URL="https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022000855"]last two minute report[/URL] that the NBA sent out, the first incorrect call was with 1:53 left in the fourth quarter when Kentavious Caldwell-Pope attacked the basket. Jazz forward Ersan Ilyasova attempted to take a charge but it was called a blocking foul. Utah had a three-point lead at the time but was up by just one after Caldwell-Pope made two free throws. The NBA said the call was wrong and should’ve been a charge.
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obviously
[QUOTE]“Schroder (LAL) uses his left hand to ward off Ilyasova’s (UTA) left arm and affects Ilyasova’s ability to contest the driving shot attempt,” the report read.
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that's the ball game. If Ersan plays they win
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/18/22387986/rudy-gobert-mike-conley-probable-utah-jazz-and-los-angeles-lakers-nba-anthony-davis-donovan-mitchell[/url]
[QUOTE]If Davis is able to play Monday, the return of Gobert to the Jazz lineup will be welcomed news, but with Favors and Ilyasova unlikely to return, that will put some pressure on Juwan Morgan who would be the most likely to receive backup center minutes behind Gobert.
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the guys has been at least solid when ever he's played. Worry about Clarkson, Bojan and COTY
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/19/22391750/can-rudy-gobert-accomplish-what-no-player-has-in-nba-history[/url]
[QUOTE]Unlike campaigns previous, the 2020-21 season will comprise just 72 games. You may be wondering how many times the aforementioned thresholds have been met in 72 games played or less. Well, exactly zero.
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you go Rudy!
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/04/19/utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-defensive-impact/[/url]
:bowdown:
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/04/18/utah-jazz-dwyane-wade-free-agents/[/url]
[QUOTE]However, considering the current collection of Jazzmen still own the best record in the league at 42-15, it sure doesn’t seem as if the franchise should be in dire need of significant free-agent talent anytime soon.
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:roll:
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/04/18/utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-return-injury/[/url]
[QUOTE]Prior to Friday’s outing, the 24-year-old had averaged 36.8 points across his previous five games. And Donovan Mitchell’s 29.7 points per game since the All-Star break ranks second in the league behind Steph Curry. Plus, per [URL="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo"][I]ESPN Stats & Info[/I][/URL], that mark is within striking distance of Karl Malone’s franchise record of 30.5 points per game following the All-Star break 30 years ago.
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hopefully he's going to watch how well the ball moves while he's out and pass it occasionally when he comes back
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert and Mike Conley are both PROBABLE tonight. Derrick Favors is QUESTIONABLE. Ersan Ilyasova is DOUBTFUL[/URL].
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[url]https://kslsports.com/457887/quin-snyder-snyder-praises-ilyasova-led-jazz-lineups/[/url]
[QUOTE][I]SALT LAKE CITY, Utah – [/I]The Utah Jazz had a clear approach to their frontcourt identity this season — make sure there’s a rim rolling big man on the floor at all times. After Saturday’s performance against the Los Angeles Lakers, Ersan Ilyasova might be softening that stance.
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Yeah Gobert and nothing else. :facepalm
[QUOTE]With high-priced backup big man Derrick Favors missing games with knee soreness and first-round draft pick Udoka Azubuike sidelined with a serious ankle injury, the Jazz have had to experiment with new looks at the backup five.
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Udoka was behind Morgan so nothing changed really
[QUOTE]“With additional spacing, it does open up the floor opens up opportunities for our premier guys to roll up to the basket,” Snyder said.
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Morgan spaces the floor too
[QUOTE]Favors will return to action for the Jazz, and when healthy, should be expected to be the top reserve behind Gobert. But, with Ilyasova’s unique skillset among Jazz centers, don’t be surprised to see his shooting prowess tested again before the playoffs.
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not really a center but hey what about PF? :roll:
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/sc7-rotations-sans-dm-welcome-wade/[/url]
[QUOTE]But that rotation works precisely because Mitchell is Mitchell. The dynamic scorer is good enough that the Jazz can trust him to carry the in-between minutes with the team’s third main group: another hybrid crew where starters Royce O’Neale and Bojan Bogdanovic stay out with Mitchell and are joined by Jordan Clarkson and Derrick Favors. That lineup is +8.5 for the season, but are fairly Mitchell-dependent. Those same four guys have only played 50 possessions without Mitchell. (The majority of those — 40 — were with Joe Ingles as de facto point guard.)
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awful lineup
[QUOTE]The last time the Jazz played without Mitchell, they solved this puzzle by having Ingles both start in his spot and captain that first hybrid unit. That’s an option for this next stretch, too. Ingles doesn’t have anywhere near Mitchell’s prowess in terms of creating his own shot, but he is a capable facilitator whose great pick-and-roll chemistry with Favors gives the bench offense another staple to work with, along with Clarkson’s isolation scoring. The same lineup that has performed at +8.5 with Mitchell at the helm is +3.1 with Ingles and the same remaining four — a decent approximation.
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better defender and playmaker
[QUOTE]The drawback is that it keeps Ingles away from from that other Conely and Gobert-led group, but that group has actually been great — in very limited opportunities — when Miye Oni replaced Ingles. The Conley-Clarkson-Oni-Georges Niang-Gobert fivesome is +43.2, on just 90 possessions.
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Oni the last guy on the team now though :facepalm
[QUOTE]Again, this year the Jazz play winning ball (+20.2) when Conley is the lone All-Star in Utah’s lineup. He hasn’t really played yet with the other four guys from that main Mitchell-led unit (just five minutes across four games for that group), but his solo net rating suggests he can keep that group afloat.
And that would leave a group of Ingles-Clarkson-Oni-Niang-Gobert to man the other hybrid group that checks back in later. That quintet has actually played a substantial amount together — 172 possessions — and was wildly successful at +34.9.
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Gobert and Conley. Nothing new
[QUOTE]Mitchell’s 42 on Monday marked the fourth straight game where he dropped at least 37 points. The only players in league history who had longer streaks of 37+ were Kobe Bryant (five times), Michael Jordan (three times), James Harden (three times) and Allen Iverson (once).
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they might have actually shot 30 times to do it too
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/4/19/22387530/utah-jazz-los-angeles-lakers-anthony-davis-rudy-gobert-lebron-james-donovan-mitchell-mike-conley[/url]
[QUOTE]Dennis Schroder and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope both went off for 25 in Saturday’s game - clearly when Rudy’s not in the game, the “corral to the basket” strategy is not a viable one, and the Jazz have a hard time adapting their perimeter defense. In an overtime game, it was disappointing to see Jordan Clarkson, Bojan Bogdanovic, Royce O’Neale, and Joe Ingles play 46, 40, 40, and 39 minutes respectively on the second night of a back to back. While there was a day of rest for this game, I would have loved to see more minutes for Miye Oni in particular, who would help the Jazz so much more defensively instead of the duds we’re getting from Trent Forrest and Matt Thomas. Even if Quin sees Miye as more a wing, the Lakers’ bigger guards (KCP, Talen Horton-Tucker, Alex Caruso) would be an excellent matchup for Miye, especially as the Jazz have a habit of letting opposing guards go off. Of course, having Mountain Mike back will provide much more creativity and defense as well.
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You forget COTY is smarter than the rest of us
[QUOTE][h=4]Favors available![/h]
Just saw the Andy Larsen tweet!
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/ForceRun7"]ForceRun7[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/4/19/22387530/utah-jazz-los-angeles-lakers-anthony-davis-rudy-gobert-lebron-james-donovan-mitchell-mike-conley#539073410"]Apr 19, 2021 | 7:04 PM[/URL]
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would rather see Morgan
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Derrick Favors, on the condition of his knee: “The knee is fine.[/URL] With the compressed season, all the travel, all the games, the knee gets sore. It was just a precautionary thing. I didn’t want it to get bad.”
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