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[url]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/12/17/22183019/utah-jazz-los-angeles-clippers-analysis-shaquille-harrison-and-royce-oneale-look-good[/url]
[QUOTE]I watched Shaquille Harrison play about three minutes of preseason basketball for the Jazz before I decided that I’m all in on him. I’ll just say this: for a handful of possessions Harrison made Paul George work so hard for his shot that if he’d been doing it for the entirety of the game George would have been absolutely exhausted. Meanwhile, Harrison didn’t look like he broke a sweat. That’s exactly the type of defender you want. Love it.
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On offense they just had him run to the corner in the first half but he looked good with the ball in his hands as well in the 4th. NBA body
[QUOTE]Royce O’Neale played in his first preseason game too and he looks a lot leaner, like he’s been conditioning and hitting the weights a lot through the offseason. Though it was his first preseason game, it didn’t really feel like it. He was quick in transition, quick to shoot, quick to pass and kept a hand in the face of shooters. Nice way to come back to the game.
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an even smaller starting 4! :cry:
[QUOTE]Rudy Gobert should not be making a guy like Kabengele look good, even if Kabengele really is good. But on Thursday night he went against the rookie with very little strength and was hunting fouls more than he was trying to score and it just wasn’t a very good look.
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pay the guy
[QUOTE]I understand that broadcast crews are supposed to put their home teams in a good light, but the Clippers broadcast crew of Brian Sieman and Mike Fratello talked so glowingly about Ty Lue’s preseason defense and how different and how much more simple it was compared to Doc Rivers’ defense. Spoiler alert, the Clippers defense last season was really good and preseason defense is not really something to count on. It was a weird take and it did not come across as a good look.
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they were so much better than the Jazz crew though!
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/12/17/22183438/utah-jazz-los-angeles-clippers-3-takeaways-donovan-mitchell-bojan-bogdanovic[/url]
[QUOTE][h=3]With Bogey the Jazz don’t lose a 3-1 lead[/h]
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except for game 7 they lost because of D. Not sure how Bojan helps them there
[QUOTE]Derrick Favors is obviously an upgrade over Tony Bradley or Ed Davis, but I think it’s worth noting how much his presence is going to change things on the bench. It’s not just about Favors elevating the defense of the second unit. It’s also the fact that Joe Ingles is going to (hopefully) thrive with him as he has in the past. Favors’ presence in the paint is also going to open up things for Jordan Clarkson and give him some confidence and space to work in that he didn’t have with Bradley last season.
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Bradley was fine in pick and roll. Clarkson doesn't care about space. He's shooting regardless. Is Favors and upgrade over anyone at the 4?
[QUOTE]So those are the main guys. Then there’s Georges Niang, who continues to improve and can shoot the lights out, Shaquille Harrison, who is an absolute lockdown defender, and a bunch of other players who are better than their years or experience say they should be.
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and they'll hardly play
[QUOTE]If I were a Jazz fan, I’d be more excited about this bench than I have in a long time.
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Clarkson, Favors in the corner and an ever declining Ingles don't excite me for some reason. If O'Neale was on the bench because they had a starting 4 I'd like i a lot more
[QUOTE][h=3]Donovan Mitchell is worth every penny[/h]
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inefficient high usage one way player isn't. Need a lot more
[QUOTE]Mitchell is going to be a bonafide superstar and have a very long NBA career. He really has a chance to evolve into one of the best two-way guards in the league and I really hope to see that happen.
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what makes you think that?
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2020/12/18/22167036/utah-jazz-playing-their-rhythm-tune-out-los-angeles-clippers-in-preseason-finale-125-105[/url]
[QUOTE]Shaq Harrison made his first appearance as a Jazzman in the first half, playing 3, of what would have been Niang’s, minutes. His time on the court was mostly uneventful, and it was difficult to get much of a reading on him.
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Niang took the minutes in the 2nd half so Snyder was looking at both. He played D
[QUOTE]The Jazz finished the first half shooting 13-31 from behind the 3-point-line. They finished off the half on the only run from either team in the half, 15-3 including a couple big 3’s from Conley, to create some separation. They will be difficult to beat as long as they have Rudy and Favs anchoring the D while they unload from beyond the arc.
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won't have the space to unload if they play together
[QUOTE]The Jazz continued firing from 3, going 7-12 in the third quarter, as they continued to pull away from the Clippers. With the Jazz up double digits, both teams started emptying the benches early in the 4th. Clarkson and Favors put in some run with the guys further down the bench before leaving with 7 uneventful minutes left in the game. Hughes appears to be a legit NBA scorer. Oni looks more confident.
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Hughes is a gunner. He'll have a hard time scoring if he can't shoot
[QUOTE]This was our first glimpse at what the regular season rotation minutes will look like. I didn’t see any major reasons to hate on Quin Snyder’s rotation tonight. It will be interesting if he continues to pull Gobert and Conley 3 minutes into each game. Is Niang still in the rotation? What about Morgan, will he get any play at all when the season starts? Are there any minutes left over for Shaq? How many minutes will Gobert play this year with Favors backing him up? Will it leave him feeling fresher when the playoffs come around? Jazz just signed the former future of the [URL="https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/"]Dallas Mavericks[/URL], Yogi Ferrell
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Looks like it's Niang or Shaq maybe depending on the game. Morgan and Oni are out. Morgan should start
[QUOTE]There is still some anxiety and uncertainty about Rudy’s contract situation, but he’s played well on the court and I think they’ll figure it out. The Jazz and Rudy need each other and will create a path forward together.
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Jazz need Rudy but don't seem to realize it somehow despite the past 6 years. He doesn't need them and would be better off if he left
[QUOTE]I think most Jazz fans will agree with me in saying that the Jazz have been ridiculously underrated by the media. If everyone can stay healthy, it should be an exciting season in which they exceed most expectations.
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The media has seen this team be mediocre year after year. Going back in time with Favors doesn't change that
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2020/12/17/22188100/report-rudy-gobert-did-not-ask-jazz-for-supermax-utah-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]This report contradicts the earlier report that came from ESPN 700’s Porter Larsen, which stated that Rudy Gobert had asked for the supermax and was initially turned down. MacMahon also talked about the “gulf” that the Jazz need to cross with Gobert and securing him long term. Afterwards Brian Windhorst commented that there would be “a handful of teams lining up” to offer Rudy Gobert the supermax if the Jazz did not, and that the Jazz needed to consider that in their contract negotiations.
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no one else can ofer him the supermax. Sign and trade maybe
[QUOTE]I still think paying more than $30-35M per year over the life of the contract will prevent us from truly competing. But losing Gobert entirely will hurt us more than paying his supermax so we’re kind of boned unless Rudy’s desire to win and win in Utah gets us a discount.
Guess we’ll see.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Korumbian"]Korumbian[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2020/12/17/22188100/report-rudy-gobert-did-not-ask-jazz-for-supermax-utah-jazz#534566105"]Dec 17, 2020 | 7:57 PM[/URL]
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Why should he take less than Mitchell or what another team can pay him? He's actually earned whatever he gets unlike Mitchell
[QUOTE]The team is in win now mode, is build around Rudy’s abilities on both sides. He has one year left which might frighten teams who don’t expect him to resign, the return wouldn’t be great, best case is something like Levert, Allen and a pick. It would be more the beginning of a rebuild than anything else, but giving up present for future one year after making the contrary move seems really unlikely and unlogical.
If no agreement is reached and he is on the free agency next summer there will be suitors, he’s probably the best player left at this point unless Kawhi leaves the Clippers.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Bigfee"]Bigfee[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2020/12/17/22188100/report-rudy-gobert-did-not-ask-jazz-for-supermax-utah-jazz#534570631"]Dec 18, 2020 | 2:55 AM[/URL]
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Win now with Favors in the corner?
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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2020/12/17/22188352/utah-jazz-sign-yogi-ferrell[/url]
[QUOTE]This comes as a bit of a surprise for Utah who looks to have filled out their roster nicely with a mix of young and veteran talent that mixes together nicely. Most likely this is a move to provide depth and security for Utah with a shortened season coming that will surely see a mix of injuries and rests for players, especially with the return of a season that will have multiple times where the Jazz will play four games in five nights.
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and they are still short on vets especially at the starting 4
[QUOTE]It’s possible the Jazz are looking to fill out their G-League roster as well as the G-League will be starting soon.
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already have their exhibit 10's. Ferrell is deep bench help. I'd guess non or partially guaranteed
[QUOTE][h=4]The Jazz seem hellbent on eliminating the PF position from its roster.[/h]
This is an odd signing whereas the Jazz already have 6 other players on the roster who can play PG—similar to the odd signing last season of Nigel Williams-Goss.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Fesenko%20for%20President"]Fesenko for President[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2020/12/17/22188352/utah-jazz-sign-yogi-ferrell#534570144"]Dec 18, 2020 | 12:56 AM[/URL]
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They have many guys that can play every position except the 4. Goss made sense. Morgan and Tucker when they already had 4 rookies not so much. At least they've got more vets this year though still too many young guys
[QUOTE][h=4]What happened with Mudiay?[/h]
I’d probably take Mudiay over Ferrell.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/nkeith"]nkeith[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2020/12/17/22188352/utah-jazz-sign-yogi-ferrell#534570257"]Dec 18, 2020 | 1:23 AM[/URL]
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I'd take him over Clarkson. Not a great fit though
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[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/260870/Thirty-Futures-Utah-Jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]Can you win a title with Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert? Probably not. But it’s Utah: you work with the talent you draft. Mitchell translates universally. He’s an awesome scoring guard any team in the league would be happy to have. With Gobert, it’s like his game and his personality are intertwined. He’s not for everybody. He’s a dominant defender, except when the other team has a loaded backcourt, and he’s got to either sink and leave a deadeye shooter open or shuffle along the perimeter with a fluidity that’s impressive for a 7-foot-1 fella but still not enough to stay in front of extremely twitchy guards. He also tends to get beaten up by Nikola Jokić, which is a problem because the beefy Serb is going to be direct playoff competition for the foreseeable future.
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If Mitchell becomes the max player he's going to be paid to be and they put the right guys around them they could win it all. Seems unlikely though given this is the Jazz
Who's the douche that wrote this crap? :facepalm
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[URL]https://www.si.com/nba/2020/12/14/top-100-nba-players-2021-daily-cover[/URL]
better than ESPN
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Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic, on how he’s feeling in his recovery: “Physically, I’m fine. I’m in great shape.[/URL] … I was in Salt Lake for 2 months before the season started. My hand is still sore. It’s probably not where it’s supposed to be, probably not 100%, but it’s good enough to play.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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[QUOTE]Blake Murphy: [URL="http://twitter.com/BlakeMurphyODC/status/1339977601872441345"]Malcolm Miller is signing an Exhibit 10 deal with the Utah Jazz,[/URL] per a source.
– via [URL="http://twitter.com/BlakeMurphyODC/status/1339977601872441345"]Twitter[/URL]
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I guess they can have 5 exhibit 10's?
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[url]https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/12/jazz-to-sign-malcolm-miller-to-exhibit-10-contract.html[/url]
the fact that he was with Toronto is encouraging. They produce talent
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Stars coming together.
Udoka/Gill
Brantley/Scott/Morgan?
Bluiett/Miller/Oni?
Hughes/Toolson/Wright Forman?
Forrest/Goss?
Another formidable lineup potentially led by all gleaguer Brantley
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[url]https://kslsports.com/448981/report-jazz-signing-forward-malcolm-miller/[/url]
[QUOTE]The roster sat at 14 players on guaranteed contracts after signing guard Shaquille Harrison last week excluding the Jazz recent additions of Scott, Ferrell, and Miller.
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You sure about that? Oni and Morgan should be non guaranteed still as far as I know. Ferrell?
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guess they can have 6 exhibit 10's. Could be one more. Fill out the rest of the Stars roster with returning players and the draft
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Marc Stein: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The NBA season will begin next week with seven of its 30 NBA teams allowing reduced crowds inside: Cleveland, Houston, Memphis, New Orleans, Orlando, Toronto and Utah[/URL] … with the Raptors, of course, temporarily located in Tampa rather home
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine"]Twitter TheSteinLine[/URL]
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50069658/its-definitely-a-different-style-of-play-jazz-continue-to-rain-3s-finish-preseason-unbeaten[/url]
defense?