2021-22 regular season Utah Jazz news, notes and game coverage

Andy Larsen: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell says his back is feeling better after the last couple of games off,[/URL] and he’ll play tonight with no restrictions.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]Twitter andyblarsen[/URL]

Mark Medina: Minnesota Timberwolves say that [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Anthony Edwards will be available for tonight’s game[/URL] vs the Utah Jazz
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina"]Twitter MarkG_Medina[/URL]

Anthony Slater: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Draymond Green isn’t expected to return for the Warriors tomorrow in Utah against the Jazz, but Steve Kerr said there’s hope of possible return when Warriors get back home.[/URL] Still hasn’t cleared protocols.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater"]Twitter anthonyVslater[/URL]

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/12/31/22860749/why-the-utah-jazz-should-give-jared-butler-minutes-nba-2021-22-quin-snyder-donovan-mitchell-draft[/url]

[QUOTE]In all fairness, it isn’t without reason. In the minutes Butler [I]has [/I]played, his performances haven’t dropped any jaws. Against NBA level rotation players, Butler seemed out of place on defense and couldn’t get a bucket to drop on offense; he was a little shell-shocked. This, eventually, led to his assignment to the Salt Lake City Stars. There, in thirty minutes a night, Butler has averaged 21.4 points, 6.8 assists, and 4.8 rebounds. While he hasn’t shot the ball particularly well, the five games he’s played for the Stars have been valuable; he’s experienced real playing time against fringe-NBA players. The competition in the G-League isn’t soft by any measure and I think sending him there was the right idea. Still, in taking a look at the last few games where Donovan Mitchell has sat out due to injury and Trent Forrest has received extended minutes, I think it’s time to give Butler some playing time in the big league.

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make him earn it. They lost a couple games earlier in the year by giving him minutes instead of Forrest or Oni

[QUOTE]Over the last two games, Forrest played 37 minutes. He totaled 4 points, 4 assists, 5 rebounds, and a Plus-Minus of minus-2. He averaged a game score of 1.4, shot 33% from the field, and wasn’t able to space the floor. In looking at his season as a whole, Forrest has averaged a Box Plus/Minus of -3.0, a Defensive Box Plus/Minus of 0.7, and nearly as many turnovers (13) as assists (20). The purpose for showing these statistics isn’t to knock Forrest as an NBA player; I actually believe that he could play real minutes in this league, given the right opportunity. Instead, it’s to show that the “win now” argument for why Butler shouldn’t play doesn’t hold water. Both from a system and individual perspective, it makes sense for the Jazz to play Butler. He better fits Quin Snyder’s offensive scheme, can handle the ball just as well as Forrest, and will certainly take something away from each stint he plays in the NBA.

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Butler played good D when he played. Offensively he's not ready. Forrest looks a lot better

[QUOTE]Given that Butler has only played five games for Stars, I don’t see why, on nights where one of Utah’s guards are resting or out, Butler shouldn’t have the opportunity to both [I]see [/I]and [I]feel[/I] NBA level play. I’m afraid that, in the G-League, Butler will develop as a primary ball handler with high usage and high shooting volume. The Jazz need Butler to turn into a secondary ball handler who spaces the floor and can create for himself when needed. While Trent Forrest is a serviceable backup guard in the NBA, the minutes he plays don’t typically have a significant impact, positive or negative, on the outcome of a game. Since those minutes are low-risk and low-impact, they’d be better served if given to Jared Butler. Although he’ll surly experience growing pains, Butler is one of the only young players on Utah’s roster with real promise and I believe that he should be given the opportunity to learn, even in a season where the end goal is a Larry O’Brian Trophy.

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rather have a guy not hurting you than hurting you

[QUOTE]On the other hand, Butler makes a hash of things whenever he is on the court. He is ball-dominant and is often forcing up poor shots after dribbling the clock down. In the last game against San Antonio, both teams acknowledged the game was over by putting in the deep bench. But after a run that dropped the lead to single digits, in part to a TO and air ball in three possessions by Butler, the Jazz had to come back with starters to wrap up the game. Unlike Forrest, Butler CAN lose games for the Jazz.[/QUOTE]

yep and he already has. Make guys earn their way

[QUOTE]It's super frustrating at times but Q going to Q. Either he knows these guys are bums or he should try to get them some minutes. But it seems in an actual game he just can't do it. I would really like to see Hughes get some minutes. He looked like he had really improved.

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he has improved. Too bad he still sucks

[QUOTE]He definitely hasn't shown a Grayson Allen or even a Dante Exum level of potential.[/QUOTE]

he's better than Exum any day. Grayson didn't show anything until about January if I remember. He shouldn't have been playing either. If Butler went to Duke he'd be playing for sure

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/12/31/utah-jazz-rudy-gobert-time-blocks-leader/[/url]

not even close :roll:

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/12/31/22857412/instant-analysis-donovan-mitchell-scored-a-season-high-39-in-utah-jazz-win-over-timberwolves[/url]

[QUOTE]The Timberwolves were missing a few players in the health and safety protocol but the Jazz were also shorthanded without Mike Conley (resting first night of a back-to-back) and Joe Ingles (lower back strain). That being said, Mitchell returned after taking the last two games off with a lower back injury and wasted absolutely no time. From early in the game he looked comfortable, healthy and clearly had his legs under him. A few days rest did Mitchell well and it was him who sparked a 22-0 run in the fourth quarter that put the Wolves away. Mitchell finished with a season-high 39 points, six rebounds and five assists. Mitchell was a little disappointed that he didn’t get 40 points when he checked out of the game, but after going 9-of-10 from the free throw line, he blamed himself for not reaching it.[/QUOTE]

the other team doesn't score I'd say someone else is sparking the run

[QUOTE]The Jazz’s rebounding was really valuable against Minnesota. They outrebounded the Wolves 61-47 and a huge shoutout is deserved for Bojan Bogdanovic who had 12 rebounds to go with his 24 points for his second career double-double.[/QUOTE]

figured it had to be one of his best nights on the boards ever

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/12/31/22862203/rudy-gobert-and-the-utah-jazz-easily-dismiss-patrick-beverley-anthony-edwards-and-the-lowly-wolves[/url]

[QUOTE]Bojan Bogdanovic had a strong shooting night for the Jazz. He was 6/14 from the field for 42% and 3/6 from 3. He also had a really nice rebounding night with 12 rebounds. The thing that always seems to pop up with Bogdanovic is the turnovers. For the game, Bogdanovic had 5 turnovers with 2 assists. A 2/5 turnover ratio is really tough and makes you wonder why he’s ever put into a single isolation situation.

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COTY

[QUOTE]There were some interesting wrinkles to this game that deserve some attention. With Mike Conley and Joe Ingles out, Quin Snyder decided to start Trent Forrest. It’s clear that Snyder has an unwavering belief that Forrest is the best option at that third guard spot. Forrest is a solid defender, a good ball handler and he’s a forceful athlete. He also can’t shoot the ball and it allows the opposing team to sag off on defense. It also makes Jazz players second guess whether to pass him the ball. Multiple times Jazz players looked him off for other shots and it was part of the reason the Jazz offense struggled with him on the floor. For the game, he was a team-low -15. Because both Conley and Ingles were out, Snyder begrudgingly had to play Jared Butler and had him in the patented “sit in the corner and don’t get in the way” role. Butler did the best with what he was given and was 1/1 from 3 and 1/2 from the field with a steal. A nice showing for the rookie getting his first real minutes since early in the year. Quin’s rigidness to make adjustments to the lineup might be tested in the future, but for now, it’s clear Forrest has that #3 guard spot locked up. But as time goes on, and if the trade deadline gets interesting, we’ll see if that changes. Danny Ainge may be the one that makes that decision.

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See ya Clarkson and Hughes! :cheers:

[QUOTE]The Jazz coaching staff is getting a lot of credit for the current success, but I would suggest that it's the players, not the coaching. Maybe a different coach would draw even more from this team. Maybe. Cheers.[/QUOTE]

coty certainly has done nothing without Gobert

[QUOTE]i am not sure if this team need a point guard, too many ball handlers in my opinion. the greater need is a bigger body than royce a 3 and D but bigger, royce won't last the whole season and playoffs being a power forward with his height and body[/QUOTE]

a starting 4 has been needed the past 3 years or at least someone that can give you 20 minutes there so Royce can play mostly where he belongs on the wing

[QUOTE]Portland's problems aren't a Dame/CJ problem, although height can matter. It's that, in your analogy, CJ isn't nearly as good as Mitchell or Conley and the bigger problem is that they've pretty much nibbled on all the wrong edges to put their team together to be good: Hood, 'Melo, Whiteside, Nurkic, Covington, Kanter, Derrick Jones Jr., Rondae Hollis Jefferson, Ariza, Bazemore, Zach Collins, Hezonja, Aminu, Harkless, Evan Turner, Alan Crabbe, etc.[/QUOTE]

McCollom has similar numbers as Mitchell. His problem is he hasn't had Rudy

[QUOTE]I really think Q should start limiting his minutes a bit and stop using him to fill Conleys or Mitchells minutes. At this point in his career he's better off playing a consistent 16-20 min/game primarily as SF and not as a guard.[/QUOTE]

good luck with that

Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Hassan Whiteside is OUT tonight (concussion protocols).[/URL] Eric Paschall remains OUT for personal reasons.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

Mark Haynes: Utah Jazz coach [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder on Draymond Green: “I think If you want to put someone in the MVP conversation, he’s someone to me…[/URL] Maybe the numbers don’t match up to some of the numbers that some other guys put up…He just does it his way.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/markhaynesnba"]Twitter markhaynesnba[/URL]

Andy Larsen: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Hassan Whiteside and Eric Paschall are both listed as questionable for tomorrow’s game[/URL] vs. NOP.
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[QUOTE] StatMuse: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Most games with 30+ points and 0 assists off the bench by an active player: 4 — Terrence Ross (including tonight)[/URL] 2 — Jordan Clarkson 2 — Montrezl Harrell Professional scorer. pic.twitter.com/pWcz5hHvy9

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it's called a gunner

[QUOTE] [URL="https://theathletic.com/3047385/2022/01/03/pistons-trade-deadline-primer-part-1-who-is-most-likely-to-be-traded-to-who-for-what/?source=nbatw"]Teams with championship aspirations are routinely calling Detroit about Jerami Grant’s services,[/URL] sources tell The Athletic. And while the Pistons are happy with what Grant provides both on and off the court to the organization, the franchise is currently in the business of capitalizing on its small asset pool, of which Grant takes up the most real estate.

– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/3047385/2022/01/03/pistons-trade-deadline-primer-part-1-who-is-most-likely-to-be-traded-to-who-for-what/?source=nbatw"]James L. Edwards III @ The Athletic[/URL]


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what would the Jazz do with a 4?

Marc Stein: The Pelicans say [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jonas Valanciunas has been upgraded to available for tonight’s game against Utah[/URL] after clearing the league’s health and safety protocols.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine"]Twitter TheSteinLine[/URL]

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32987465/golden-state-warriors-draymond-green-appreciative-mvp-comments-utah-jazz-coach-quin-snyder"]“I agree with [Snyder], and that is someone who sees the game for what it is,” said Green, who repeatedly expressed his respect for the Jazz coach.[/URL] “Like his comments said, [Green] don’t go out and get the numbers; he just kind of does it in all ways. I don’t think it can be explained any better. “I’m not going to go out and make an MVP case by stacking my numbers up against Steph Curry or Kevin Durant or Giannis [Antetokounmpo]. It’s not going to be that. But I think the way I impact the game, the things I do on the floor, the things that I do to impact winning, I think there is something to be said for that.”
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32987465/golden-state-warriors-draymond-green-appreciative-mvp-comments-utah-jazz-coach-quin-snyder"]Ohm Youngmisuk @ ESPN[/URL]

[url]https://kslsports.com/476113/jazz-move-to-13-3-on-road-with-win-over-pelicans/[/url]

[QUOTE]“We just have to understand it’s going to be hard for Mike Conley to get a rebound with Valanciunas, it’s gonna be hard for Mike Conley and Donovan Mitchell to get a rebound against Valanciunas,” Snyder said. “But if Mike Conley and Donovan Mitchell and Bojan fight Valanciunas we’ve got a chance to get a rebound.”

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you expect your 2nd tallest stater to fight for boards? :roll: