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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/04/28/utah-jazz-4-duke-basketball-matthew-hurt/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=1]Utah Jazz: 4 reasons to eye Duke basketball draft prospect Matthew Hurt[/h][/QUOTE]
you already answered the question as to why not to draft him. Duke. No thanks!
[QUOTE]It’s safe to say no Blue Devil faces have been duds in Salt Lake City. [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boozeca01.html"]Carlos Boozer[/URL]. [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hoodro01.html"]Rodney Hood[/URL]. [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/allengr01.html"]Grayson Allen[/URL]. [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/coaches/snydequ01c.html"]Quin Snyder[/URL].
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Maybe not duds but certainly not favorites of anyone but Snyder and that's where the problem lies
Regardless of the Duke problem they should be looking at pg first then probably a wing or maybe a forward
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[url]https://fansided.com/2021/04/29/utah-jazz-historic-3-point-shooters/[/url]
[QUOTE]And, somewhat amazingly, the Jazz 3-point percentage may even be dragged down [I]below[/I] their true average by some unlikely cold shooting lately. Jordan Clarkson is second on the team in 3-point attempts at 8.7 per game but he’s made just 34.7 percent on the season. Through the end of February, Clarkson was hitting 37.1 percent of his 3s. Since then, he’s made just 31.4 percent.
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but keep shooting! :facepalm
[QUOTE]You need good shooters to be a good shooting team but the Jazz roster is among the league-leader in [URL="https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/continuity.html"]roster continuity[/URL] — the percent of minutes played by players who were also on the team last season. However, the Jazz have dramatically reworked their offensive style this season, [URL="https://fansided.com/2021/04/14/nylon-calculus-nba-offenses-style-change-2020-21/"]changing more[/URL] than all but a handful of other teams. The biggest changes have been with a lot more movement of players and the ball, pushing the pace, making quicker decisions and taking open shots when they present themselves.
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it's not a lot different really. The big difference is defensively especially Conley
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Justin Kubatko: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Counting last night’s 49-point win by the Jazz and 44-point win by the Sixers, there have been six games decided by 40 or more points this month. That’s the most such games in a calendar month in NBA history,[/URL] surpassing the five 40-point blowouts in April 1994 and Nov. 2019.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/jkubatko"]Twitter jkubatko[/URL]
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The Jump: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Importance of top seed in the West? “It’s tough not to look at the standings at this point of the year. We want to be healthy going into our playoff appearance” – @Mike Conley[/URL] #NBA #NBATwitter #TheJump #TakeNote pic.twitter.com/FD8bMhc4yo
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBATheJump"]Twitter NBATheJump[/URL]
The Jump: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]On his health: “I feel very confident. With my hamstring injury at the beginning of the year, it was more precautionary. It’s not as bad as people think it is” – @Mike Conley[/URL] #NBA #NBATwitter #TheJump #TakeNote
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBATheJump"]Twitter NBATheJump[/URL]
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Sarah Todd: Mike Conley and Donovan Mitchell are out tomorrow and Royce O’Neale questionable with right wrist soreness. – via Twitter NBASarah
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Gerald Bourguet: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jae Crowder (right ankle sprain) is still questionable for tomorrow against the Jazz. Dario Saric (left ankle) has been upgraded to probable[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/GeraldBourguet"]Twitter GeraldBourguet[/URL]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/458448/ranking-every-jazz-player-by-their-draft-position/[/url]
[QUOTE]Brantley has been with the Jazz for the last two seasons on a two-way contract but has shown enough in glimpses to likely earn a full-time NBA contract next season.
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the fact that he didn't after being all gleague is amazing while Hughes got 2 years guaranteed. Still don't get that one? I'm guessing if not for the Trump virus with a Summer League he would have been somewhere else. Had to settle on another two way here
[QUOTE]To this point in his career, it’s safe to say Niang is one of the 15 best players ever drafted with the 50th overall pick. The Iowa State product ranks 12th in games played, 13th in win shares, 14th in points per game, and second in three-point shooting percentage.
Surprisingly, of the 34 players drafted with the 50th pick who have appeared in the NBA, five are still active, though only James Ennis has appeared in more career games. On his current trajectory, Niang will easily become one of the 10 best players ever drafted with the 50th overall pick and could rise even higher depending on his development.
For now, Niang ranks among the top 22 percent of players drafted with the 50th overall pick.
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:bowdown:
[QUOTE]Former Jazzman Jeff Hornacek is the best player ever drafted with the 46th pick, but Clarkson could see his name vaulted into the top 2-3 depending on the next five years of his career.
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wish Clarkson was anything like Horny :cry:
[QUOTE]Bogdanovic hasn’t had the overall impact of a handful of other 31st overall picks including former BYU standout Danny Ainge, current Philadelphia 76ers head coach Doc Rivers, or Gilbert Arenas, all of whom made at least one All-Star appearance in their careers, but he isn’t far off.
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yes he is! Arenas was a superstar. Ainge was a champion :facepalm
[QUOTE]He won’t ever catch the career accomplishments of Kobe Bryant or Karl Malone, the two best players to ever be drafted 13th, and Hal Greer is a Hall of Famer, but outside of the top three, all bets are off.
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Mitchell is a superstar! Why can't he be up with those guys? :roll:
[QUOTE]Historically, there’s only one player selected with the 27th pick that has had a better career than Gobert, and that’s Hall of Famers Dennis Rodman. But, outside of Rodman’s five championships and seven rebounding titles, Gobert is likely to meet or surpass most of Rodman’s major accomplishments.
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Rodman was a role player. Gobert has carried a franchise[CENTER]
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[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50157030/georges-niang-showing-he-could-play-a-big-role-in-the-playoffs-for-the-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]"It's been consistent for us: guys that defend find their way onto the floor and guys that don't defend, find their way off the floor," Jazz head coach Quin Snyder said.
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If only that was the case. Plenty of guys don't defend and they stay on the floor regardless. It's a big problem
[QUOTE]Niang is self-aware. In college, he went through a body transformation because he realized that "they don't pay fat people to play professional sports." He went from 260 pounds to 225 and became an All-American. In his first season with the Jazz, he jokingly referred to himself as the minivan because "he needed a few laps to warm up" after nearly missing a dunk.
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I'd like to see him in better shape. I think that's where he can improve most
[QUOTE]He knew to be truly an effective defender with the Jazz he needed to be able to stay in front of guys. While Utah isn't going to ask him to defend elite wing scorers regularly, he needed to be a solid enough team defender and keep players like Moe Harkless — as seen in Wednesday's game against the Kings — from blowing by him. So, Niang started a new program with the Jazz training staff to improve his lateral quickness.
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When do Clarkson, Mitchell and Bojan join the program?
[QUOTE]"He's not playing defense because he's making shots. He's making shots because he's playing defense."
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pretty sure he'd make shots regardless
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/30/22410612/how-strong-is-quin-snyder-case-for-nba-coach-of-the-year-utah-jazz-monty-williams-phoenix-suns[/url]
[QUOTE]Earlier this season, Snyder was widely seen as the heavy favorite to win it. Utah was largely expected to be a mid-tier playoff team or worse in the preseason, so the fact it had vaulted to the top of the ridiculously strong Western Conference made Snyder’s case.
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He's not the one playing D. Conley and Niang are. That's the difference
[QUOTE]Entering this season, the prevailing national narrative surrounding the Jazz was that they were a good team but probably not a great one. When they did become great, however, Snyder became a CoY candidate. As Pelton alluded to, however, the fact Utah maybe hasn’t done anything too outrageously good since the early part of the season might hurt Snyder at this point.
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still hard to think of them as great
[QUOTE]But over the last 35 games of the season, Utah went a blistering 29-6, and Snyder got second in Coach of the Year voting.
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thanks yet again Rudy
[QUOTE](Warning: This one might hurt, Jazz fans) In 2004, Utah was supposed to be awful, but it finished 42-40 and just missed the playoffs. Many thought Jerry Sloan should have won CoY, but the Memphis Grizzlies were also supposed to be bad yet finished sixth in the West and made the playoffs, and thus Hubie Brown won CoY (Sloan was probably victim of being too consistently good over his 23 seasons with the Jazz to ever win the award).
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Hubie did a great job. Sloan probably underachieved every year but that one. He had two of the greatest layers ever
[QUOTE]It’s still very possible that Snyder wins the award. He’s actually still considered the favorite by oddsmakers. That said, the likes of Williams, Thibodeau and Rivers (in his first season with the Philadelphia 76ers) are right in the mix. As with a lot of things, the only way to try to take care of business is to win games.
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Rivers? :facepalm
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[QUOTE][B]I would start Joe and play him 25 to 28 minutes a game[/B]
What are we, 12-2 without Mike? Use Donny more at PG and play Royce more at SG, and play Niang and Ersan more. More Brantley, Hughes, and Oni.
Also definitely sign a vet PG. TJ McConnell is an intriguing option. Neto has had a great year, just think would be a lot of capable guys who would come here for vet minimum.
Again, only if it’s apparent that we are not sure Mike will be the answer for next few years. Hamstring issues in games 6 and 7 for example. Undersized backcourt issues. Too many floaters.
Mike has been awesome all year but has had some crappy games against better competition. 5/16 against Phx, 3/12 against Portland, 2/10 against Denver, etc. What if lays an egg in some big playoff games?
I’m pretty confident he won’t. But I’m sure the team will be considering all our options.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/SKMike"]SKMike[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/29/22410115/georges-niang-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-threes-minivan#539524012"]Apr 30, 2021 | 3:04 AM[/URL]
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start Joe and who comes off the bench? Mitchell at pg sucks. More Hughes based on what? Snyder doesn't like Neto. Why would he want to come back? McConell I like but he can't shoot. Conley's floarer is great especially when it could be a lob to Rudy. Thing with Conley, Ingles, O'Neale is that even on a bad shooting night they bring a lot to the table. Mitchell, Clarkson and Bojan don't. Even hurt you when their shot is falling
[QUOTE]As good as Conley has been this season, this team does not need a player like Mike Conley. He is a traditional point guard, and the current iteration of the Jazz just doesn’t use players that way. We could put a taller, stronger, younger player in that role (for probably a lot less money) and be just as good or better. DM can get the label of "PG" if we think it is important that someone have that designation. We just need somebody who can shoot threes, and they are becoming more and more common.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/29/22410115/georges-niang-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-threes-minivan#539525400"]Apr 30, 2021 | 6:18 AM[/URL]
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hard to imagine getting better. He's been one of the best players in the league. How do you replace that unless Mitchell suddenly becomes the player he's hyped to be which I don't see
[QUOTE]Finally, the Jazz could decide to draft a PG or pick someone up from the G-League to develop the next PG. But experience with O’Neale, Niang, and others show that takes time. Meanwhile, Gobert continues to age and Mitchell is playing through his contract and may look elsewhere if the Jazz are not competing at a high level. Any development plan needs to be time sensitive. Even the GOAT (John Stockton) played sparingly off the bench for a couple of years before he was ready to take over for Ricky Green. Plus the fact that the Jazz are not likely to get someone like that drafting #30 in this year’s draft. So they are at least a year away from figuring out who that developing superstar is going to be.
Personally, I expect the Jazz like the "bird in the hand" choice and will try to re-sign Conley. This is Conley’s last chance at a payday. He knows that. The Jazz know that. Every GM in the league knows that. All it takes is one GM to make a ridiculous offer and Conley would have a very difficult decision to make.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/jmnunes5"]jmnunes5[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/29/22410115/georges-niang-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-threes-minivan#539528189"]Apr 30, 2021 | 8:03 AM[/URL]
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O'Neale didn't take long. Stockton was great immediately. The Jazz just weren't smart enough to realize it. Should have traded Green and started John
[QUOTE][B]The ultra big lineup looked really good.[/B]
Jingles at PG.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/29/22410115/georges-niang-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-threes-minivan#539531784"]Apr 30, 2021 | 9:48 AM[/URL]
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yeah who would thought that having a PF could make a difference? :facepalm
[QUOTE]Not that the Jazz tall squad is full of people with guard-like skills but, relying primarily on passing and shooting combined with active defense and rebounding, they sure put SAC at a disadvantage on both ends of the court the other night. However, a depleted SAC squad may not have provided a valid assessment.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/jmnunes5"]jmnunes5[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/29/22410115/georges-niang-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-threes-minivan#539532782"]Apr 30, 2021 | 10:14 AM[/URL]
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Ersan, Morgan and Brantley should be in the mix. They won't be. COTY
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[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/29/22410115/georges-niang-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-threes-minivan[/URL]
[QUOTE]It’s time that everyone start to recognize the weapon that George Niang really is, and the impact that he can have on any given night. Come playoff time, if he can keep up this defensive intensity, he’s going to come in and make some big plays for the Jazz, I can feel it. And when he does, it’s gonna be awesome.
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doubt he sees the floor much. More Mitchell, Carkson and Bojan! :cry:
[QUOTE]When the opposing defenses leave Royce open to double team on Mitchell he has to make them pay. If he doesn’t Niang is certainly a go-to option for Quin that will not hesitate to take those shots.
Also, as many have already mentioned, his on-ball defense has been very good this year!
So Niang could definitely find himself in the rotation in the playoffs (remember his our 9th player) and maybe even spell in for Clarkson when his shot is not falling.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/global_jazz_warming"]global_jazz_warming[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/29/22410115/georges-niang-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-threes-minivan#539506246"]Apr 29, 2021 | 3:53 PM[/URL]
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He won't be getting minutes over either. Wish he'd play over the guys I first mentioned though and he'd be on the team next year instead of them
[QUOTE]I don’t think this will happen but it would not surprise me UTA trades Bojan and signs Niang to take his place. Bojan is probably still a better player but I suspect Niang’s salary next season will be at most half of Bojan’s. Even if Niang can only replace 90% of Bojan, the lower salary gives the team flexibility to bring back Conley or sign another MLE-level player. I know UTA could bring everyone back and just pay a huge tax bill but I don’t see that happening (even if UTA ends the playoffs with a W).
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Palmetto%20Bug"]Palmetto Bug[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/29/22410115/georges-niang-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-threes-minivan#539508647"]Apr 29, 2021 | 5:12 PM[/URL]
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I'd look to move Bojan, Clarkson, Hughes and Favors(Mitchell too if it was me). Bring back Conley, Niang, Brantley, Ersan, Oni, Morgan, Thomas depending on what they have to take back for those other guys of course. Ideally you shed some money, get bigger and better, Quin proof the roster and gain some fleibility
[QUOTE]When we win it all or if he plays well and we go the WCF finals and almost win, I can see them bringing everyone back, no matter the cost.
If we flame out in the 2nd round and don’t look that competitive, then I can see them moving on from Conley. If Niang plays well though then I can see them giving him a 3 year $27 mill type of deal, or something close to Royce money, and giving him more of a role next year.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/SKMike"]SKMike[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/29/22410115/georges-niang-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-threes-minivan#539521343"]Apr 29, 2021 | 9:22 PM[/URL]
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I can see them bringing everyone back if they get swept in the first round. This is the Jazz! Conley should be back over anyone not named Rudy regardless. Niang won't get Royce money or shouldn't. A few million a year over multiple years and a bigger role elsewhere likely
[QUOTE]Having Conley means a super small backcourt. We could potentially be better with a worse overall player, if that player was 3 and D and bigger. It would really hurt if Donovan missed time though. I doubt if anyone on the roster is a good enough 3 and D to take some of his minutes but I won’t be too concerned if Conley goes somewhere else.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/oregonjazzfan"]oregonjazzfan[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/29/22410115/georges-niang-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-threes-minivan#539522107"]Apr 29, 2021 | 9:57 PM[/URL]
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I would have agreed with you a year ago. But Conley has played big this year at both ends. He's by far one of their top two players sorry to fans of their superstar. More size in the backcourt and up front would be nice. Royce going back to the 2 and 3 would give them that.
[QUOTE]Donovan plays bigger than he actually is on offense but not defense. I guess it’s great to be so good & still have room for improvement.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/PlayfasterJazz"]PlayfasterJazz[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/4/29/22410115/georges-niang-utah-jazz-secret-weapon-threes-minivan#539522643"]Apr 29, 2021 | 10:37 PM[/URL]
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Mitchell plays small. He hates contact. He does get ome rebounds and is starting to get to the line more
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[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/dwyane-wade-ryan-smith-and-the-perception-of-the-utah-jazz/[/url]
[QUOTE]For a better picture, the following players are under contract after this year:
Mitchell and Gobert: 4–5 seasons
Jordan Clarkson, Royce O’Neale, and Udoka Azuibuke: 3 seasons
Bogdanovic and Derrick Favors: 2 seasons
Joe Ingles and Elijah Hughes: 1 season
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Gobert, O'Neale, Udoka and Ingles are good contracts. The rest? :cry:
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/04/30/utah-jazz-players-nationally-underrated/[/url]
[QUOTE]The former Iowa State Cyclone has found a home in Utah, where he has proven to be a reliable spark plug off the bench. Having played in all 62 games for the Jazz this year, they will depend on his consistent shooting to help make a deep run in the postseason.
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doubt he plays much
[QUOTE][h=2]Underrated Utah Jazz player: Ersan Ilyasova[/h]
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underrated by the Jazz too. I thought he should have been an option for many years now and he should be starting based on what we've seen. Sorry Bojan
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Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]From the Jazz: number of fans at Vivint will increase to 6700 and a limited number of Courtside seats will be available for those who are fully vaccinated and pass a rapid COVID 19 test.[/URL] Masks and distancing are still required at all games
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]
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Josh Lewenberg: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Raptors are resting Kyle Lowry vs Utah tomorrow.[/URL] Boucher (knee sprain), Trent (leg contusion) and Watson (knee tendinitis) remain out as well.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JLew1050"]Twitter JLew1050[/URL]
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[QUOTE]Bill Oram: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The league just announced that the Lakers game next Friday at Portland will now be televised by ESPN,[/URL] bumping Denver at Utah.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/billoram"]Twitter billoram[/URL]
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shit there was a Laker gam not on already! :facepalm
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Duane Rankin: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jae Crowder (ankle) OUT. Dario Saric (ankle) will likely give it a go,[/URL] Monty Williams said for tonight’s game vs. Jazz. #Suns
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/DuaneRankin"]Twitter DuaneRankin[/URL]
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Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Royce O’Neale is AVAILABLE tonight despite right wrist soreness[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder said he didn’t have an update on Donovan Mitchell who was due to get re-evaluated tonight[/URL]. But, he said he doesn’t have an update because he’s not an expert on injuries so he doesn’t offer updates.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/30/22407925/nba-power-rankings-roundup-utah-jazz-espn-sports-illustrated-cbs-sports-nbc-sports-april-29[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz’s success is less star-driven than that of the league’s other top teams and if there was a “Best Ensemble Cast” award in the NBA, this team would win it. But the Jazz still need Rudy Gobert to anchor the defense that has climbed to second in the league for the first time in two months. And they still need Donovan Mitchell to carry some of the load for the league’s fifth-ranked offense.
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defense climbing without Mitchell. Big surprise
[QUOTE][INDENT]The Jazz are in the midst of a minor slump with three losses in their last five games, including a pair of defeats against the Timberwolves? Should this be reason for concern? Not exactly. Monday’s loss was the product of a defensive lapse by Rudy Gobert on Minnesota’s final possession, and regardless, this simply isn’t the same potent offense with Donovan Mitchell out of the lineup. As long as Utah is healthy come playoff time, this could very well be your Western Conference champion.” — [I]Michael Shapiro[/I][/INDENT]
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the loss was a result of COTY allowing Clarkson and Bojan to shoot them out of the game
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[url]https://www.deseret.com/sports/2021/4/30/22398174/jazz-insiders-suns-friday-nba-playoff-dont-put-too-much-weight-on-what-happens[/url]
[QUOTE]On May 3, 1974, “Pistol” Pete Maravich was obtained by the expansion New Orleans Jazz from Atlanta in exchange for first-round draft picks in 1974 and 1975, second-round picks in 1975 and 1976, and the Jazz’s second and third selections in the expansion draft.
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hurt the franchise for years to come
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The longer the season goes on, the longer I get the feeling we could finish as the #1 or #2 seed and still lose in the 1st round.
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[QUOTE=El Kabong;14305622]The longer the season goes on, the longer I get the feeling we could finish as the #1 or #2 seed and still lose in the 1st round.[/QUOTE]
They should win easily in the first round. Don't see anyone there that should take them more than 5 games. After that it will get tough
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[QUOTE]Eric Walden: Rudy Gobert: “I wouldn’t say concerned — obviously we could have played much better. … [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]We got outplayed, they were more physical than us from the get-go, they put a lot of pressure on us and we turned it over.[/URL] … They know how to make us pay.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic disagrees with Rudy Gobert’s assessment: “Every game means a lot. I think every player took it serious, but we didn’t execute.”[/URL] Said the Jazz simply didn’t execute well on either end — too many turnovers committed, too much transition allowed.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
Eric Walden: Quin Snyder, on the Utah Jazz’s play tonight: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“We didn’t execute the way we wanted to. In a game like this when certain players are not able to play, your margin for error is really small.”[/URL] Added that early turnovers led to Phoenix transition and easy shots.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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the margin gets even smaller when the coach thinks Clarkson, Bojan and Forrest are the answer
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[url]https://kslsports.com/458605/jazz-drop-to-second-seed-after-loss-to-suns/[/url]
[QUOTE]How the Jazz finish the season will be largely dependent on how quickly they got Conley and Mitchell back in the lineup, and how Quin Snyder chooses to rest his players down the stretch.
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more dependent on if he still thinks Clarkson, Bojan and Forrest are his answer
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50157899/i-dont-think-we-took-it-seriously-wounded-jazz-fall-to-suns-as-phoenix-takes-over-no-1-seed[/url]
[QUOTE]"I think that every single player played pretty serious tonight, but it's how it is. I think that we didn't execute both offensively, defensively," Bogdanovic said.
"I mean it's just another loss," Clarkson said. "We didn't defend well tonight. They scored anytime they wanted. They just played well. I mean, you can't look at this like it's the end of the world or nothing. They still got games to play; we still got games to play."
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you two are the main reason they had no chance. COTY
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/30/22410077/instant-analysis-phoenix-suns-beat-shorthanded-utah-jazz-nba-donovan-mitchell-mike-conley[/url]
[QUOTE]There were a few times I found myself a little surprised by Jordan Clarkson’s on-ball defense. When he wants to be, he can be a pretty pesky defender.
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who cares when he's shooting them out of every game
[QUOTE]Royce O’Neale passes up open shots still. Nothing new there.
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so Clarkson can gun most of the time it seems
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/4/30/22413647/the-utah-jazz-played-against-the-phoenix-suns-and-lost[/url]
[QUOTE]If there’s one thing that is disappointing it’s that Jordan Clarkson continues to struggle to score efficiently. Tonight he was 2/8 from three and 3/15 from the field. Clarkson likely has a better game if he’s playing off of Donovan Mitchell drawing better defenders, but it would be nice to see him string together a few big games. Although, perhaps that’s why he is the only true candidate on the Jazz for Sixth Man of the Year, because he is likely the most definitive sixth man on the team. He’s at his best against second units and playing off of the starters. Otherwise, he loses some of his effectiveness. Joe Ingles has over 20 starts now and that probably should disqualify him from the running for 6MOY anyways.
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Mitchell doesn't make a difference when you're playing 1 on 5
[QUOTE]Who would have guessed how greatly health affects team success in this league…
I don’t think anyone can really feel confident about the playoffs’ outcome this year.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/global_jazz_warming"]global_jazz_warming[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/4/30/22413647/the-utah-jazz-played-against-the-phoenix-suns-and-lost#539565434"]May 1, 2021 | 1:44 AM[/URL]
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same as its ever been
[QUOTE][h=4]Clarkson[/h]
Has been disappointing lately, no two ways about it
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/bbabbabba"]bbabbabba[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/4/30/22413647/the-utah-jazz-played-against-the-phoenix-suns-and-lost#539566059"]May 1, 2021 | 4:46 AM[/URL]
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as in the past two season yes
[QUOTE]Based on his prior injury history in college and based on him being injured for 3/4 of his first NBA season—and based on Jaden McDaniel (who was chosen with pick #28–one pick after Azubuike) playing like a high lottery pick for Minnesota—it looks like the Jazz may have gotten another late draft pick totally wrong again last off season. Other than Rudy Gobert, Rodney Hood and Donovan Mitchell—and granted, Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell were big home run picks (even grand slam picks)—the Dennis Lindsey regime has not been very good on drafting, especially with later draft picks.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Fesenko%20for%20President"]Fesenko for President[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/4/30/22413647/the-utah-jazz-played-against-the-phoenix-suns-and-lost#539569177"]May 1, 2021 | 8:56 AM[/URL]
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they needed a center. Udoka sounds like he could be another Gobert type player. McDaniel would be playing behind Forrest like Morgan and Brantley. Hood :roll:
[QUOTE][h=4]Turns out Donovan may be the team's MVP, even if he doesn't have the best advanced stats.[/h]
That said, both Rudy and Donovan are essential to the Jazz winning as their roster/scheme is constructed. Lose either guy, and the Jazz are looking like a lottery team.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/cardsinindy2010"]cardsinindy2010[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/4/30/22413647/the-utah-jazz-played-against-the-phoenix-suns-and-lost#539570062"]May 1, 2021 | 9:40 AM[/URL]
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nah. All about Gobert and Conley
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://fansided.com/2021/04/30/whiteboard-8-best-first-round-matchups-2021-nba-playoffs/[/url]
[QUOTE]Okay, so maybe the Dubs are still thoroughly outmatched here; Curry, this version of Draymond Green, Andrew Wiggins, Kelly Oubre Jr. and a bunch of G Leaguers won’t instill much fear in one of the most complete teams in basketball. But we’d rather see the Warriors — the [URL="https://fansided.com/2021/04/28/whiteboard-golden-state-warriors-nba-perfect-play-in-team/"]ideal play-in team[/URL] — earn the honor of getting diced up by Utah than more feckless playoff threats like the Spurs, Grizzlies or Pelicans.
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rather see the Grizzlies. They are the future
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
Josh Lewenberg: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Khem Birch, asked about facing Gobert tonight: “I do believe I’m kinda underrated so obviously I’ve gotta prove myself… but I’m not really worried about other big guys. The other day I had to guard Jokic… I don’t really get scared when I go up against those types of guys”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JLew1050"]Twitter JLew1050[/URL]
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley continue to be OUT with a sprained ankle and hamstring tightness, respectively[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Donovan Mitchell was re-evaluated today for his sprained ankle and will be out at least another week[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/5/1/22414336/the-utah-jazz-look-to-get-back-on-rhythm-against-the-toronto-raptors[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz are missing two All-Star guards, and it shows. While the bench was able to show up in a big way against the [URL="https://www.sactownroyalty.com/"]Sacramento Kings[/URL], it was completely unable to do so against the [URL="https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/"]Phoenix Suns[/URL]. With Mitchell and Conley out, a lot of responsibility falls on Joe Ingles and Jordan Clarkson. Both are leading candidates for the Sixth Man of the Year award, and we’ve seen both take over games. They have that ability, but the role of lead ball handler is not what either of them are used to. They have to step outside of their comfort zones a little bit. The Jazz will need Ingles to be aggressive with his shot. They’ll need Clarkson to be smart with his decisions. If they can do that, the losses of Conley and Mitchell can be hidden.
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when is Clarkson anything but the lead ball handler? Smart with his decisions? :roll:
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[URL]https://kslsports.com/458681/jazz-forrest-outlast-shorthanded-raptors/[/URL]
[QUOTE]A single win in the NBA costs roughly $[URL="https://medium.com/@matthartzell/how-much-does-a-win-on-the-nba-free-agent-market-cost-f4fb32d33e1"]2.6[/URL]–[URL="https://thedatajocks.com/nba-economics-and-cost-per-win/#:~:text=The%20First%20NBA%20Cost%20per%20Win%20Model&text=A%20win%20in%20terms%20of,contract%20of%20about%2014.5%20million."]2.9[/URL] million based on the league’s total salary divided by the total number of wins. And frankly, the Jazz probably wouldn’t have beaten the Raptors if it wasn’t for Forrest.
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I'd still take Brantley, Morgan and Oni over him. He's played well but without a shot there's no one he should be playing over anyone except Hughes. The fact that the roster is the way it is and a 2 way rookie with no shot is playing is inexcusable
[QUOTE]After the team waived guard Shaq Harrison earlier in the season, Forrest became the defacto sixth guard but seems to have leaped Miye Oni to become the team’s go-to fifth option.
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Oni still appears to be 10th man unless they are missing multiple guys than he becomes the last man. Makes lots of sense COTY! :lol
[QUOTE]Forrest’s game still needs work to become a full-blown NBA player. He’s connected on just 20 percent of his three-point attempts this season, a number that must improve if he wants to find himself in a rotation permanently.
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rotation? He won't be long for the league. At least he is shooting if open now
[QUOTE]Most teams are still going to prefer to avoid James and Davis as long as they can in the playoffs but for now, no team in the West looks like an easy out.
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the last team or two should be an easy out. Jazz certainly don't want Lakers
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50158250/an-unexpected-hero-jazz-get-by-raptors-behind-play-of-trent-forrest[/url]
[QUOTE]He studies how Mike Conley masterfully paces a pick and roll; how Donovan Mitchell makes reads in the paint; and how Royce O'Neale handles guarding a team's best player.
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Maybe watch how Niang shoots
[QUOTE]On the ensuing offensive possession, Joe Ingles found Forrest open for a corner 3. But there was a reason he was open. Forrest had already badly missed two other open 3s in the game and had made just one long distance shot all season — albeit on very few opportunities.
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and he'll continue to be open and the paint will be packed unless he learns to shoot. Been there done that with Ricky. At least he can defend and make a layup
[QUOTE]"You guys know how I feel about that, if you're out there and you're open, you got to shoot it," coach Quin Snyder said. "And sometimes that's not easy, especially if you're a young guy and you missed the first one."
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They've obviously drilled it into him because he didn't want to shoot before the past couple of games
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/5/1/22404210/instant-analysis-utah-jazz-up-defensive-intensity-in-second-half-to-rally-past-toronto-raptors[/url]
[QUOTE]Utah’s defense allowed 62 points at the half, which is usually difficult to overcome. Two of those points were the result of a simple lack of defensive awareness at the end of the first quarter as the Jazz were caught up in the excitement from Clarkson’s highlight-reel dunk. After the dunk with 1.4 seconds left, the Jazz allowed DeAndre’ Bembry to get behind everyone as he caught the inbounds pass, and in scramble mode, Gobert fouled him on a 3-point attempt. Bembry made 2 of 3 free throws, but they were two points there was no reason to concede.
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Was a great block. **** Clarkson!
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Mike Conley and Donovan Mitchell are both OUT tomorrow vs. San Antonio[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[URL]https://www.deseret.com/2021/5/2/22412433/utah-jazz-mailbag-rudy-gobert-derrick-favors-georges-niang-playoffs-ersan-ilyasova-nba-trent-forrest[/URL]
[QUOTE]I think that just about everyone can predict what lineups are going to be used during the playoffs. If everyone is healthy, there’s no reason to believe that the Jazz will stray away from what they normally use with the main, nine-man rotation. That doesn’t mean that there won’t be small tweaks and clever changes based on matchups.
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yep. we're talking COTY here unfortunately
[QUOTE]There is a world in which the Jazz would have to match up against a very tall and lengthy lineup and they’d need to go with an ultra big lineup. That being said, it’s hard for me to imagine a scenario in which Quin Snyder would use a lineup of Rudy Gobert, Derrick Favors, Georges Niang and Ersan Ilyasova unless the circumstances were dire or he did it just for a couple minutes to shake things up.
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Ersan/Morgan/Brantley should be getting the minutes at the 4. Clarkson and Bojan shouldn't play!
[QUOTE]And, I know that there might be hopes that Ilyasova gets some more playing time but I don’t think that the Jazz are going to rely on him much, if at all, during the playoffs. That’s not a knock against Ilyasova. I covered him when he played with the Philadelphia 76ers and saw him do some great things during the playoffs. But, it was clear when Philly signed him that they would be using him. So far with the Jazz, that’s just not been the case. I’d think of him as insurance more than anything else at this point.
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and to anyone paying attention he offers something the Jazz don't have. Sadly you are right
[QUOTE]I think that it would be pretty safe to assume those players will be here through those contracts. Of course, trades and other deals are always a possibility, but the Jazz have been successful with this group, so right now there’s no reason to think that they’ll be wheeling and dealing that much.
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again I'm sure you're right but with a new owner we can hope that things change in Utah. Bojan, Clarkson, Favors and Hughes should all be gone. Ideally Mitchell too!
[QUOTE]Mike Conley will be an unrestricted free agent this offseason and it seems like the Jazz will want to re-sign him, but the length and size of that contract still has to be negotiated. Joe Ingles has one more season on his contract after this year, how he plays next season will play a huge part in whether he sticks around. Both Conley and Ingles will turn 34 in October, so age is certainly something to think about. They’ve both had excellent seasons, maybe the best of their careers, but father time is undefeated.
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Conley is their 2nd best player by far and Ingles is arguably their 3rd
[QUOTE]The Jazz could keep this core together for a very long time if they want to, and I’d expect that to be the case over the next couple of years at least. But it’ll all depend on how well they perform.
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if it has anything to do with how they perform than they will follow what I said
[QUOTE]There are going to be a lot of moving parts for the Jazz this offseason and we’ll cover that all in depth at a later date, but the simplest answer is yes, the Jazz can re-sign Niang.
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He's gone. Another reason to get rid of the big contracts I said
[QUOTE]As for Trent Forrest, I don’t have a ton of thoughts because we haven’t seen him play a ton of minutes with the regular rotation guys. He had a good game on [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/5/2/22410567/reserve-guard-trent-forrest-logs-key-minutes-in-helping-utah-jazz-rally-past-toronto-raptors-for-win"]Saturday against the Toronto Raptors[/URL], but he only was able to log minutes with the regular players because of injuries to Mitchell (right ankle sprain) and Conley (right hamstring tightness).
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another 2 way if they think he can develop a shot. Otherwise let him go
[QUOTE]Outside of getting ready for the postseason, Bogdanovic has been playing great, Clarkson has been playing better defense and Niang has stepped up his game. Once Mitchell and Conley are back, there’s no doubts about what they’re able to do and the same goes for Gobert. Seeing that the role players are doing more and being aggressive is a good sign right now. Go forth with that good thought in mind!
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Bojan has hardly been great. As I've said since the bubble last year I'm not sure even at his best that they Jazz aren't better without him. Rather have a PF, Niang, Oni...
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/5/3/22417549/utah-jazz-san-antonio-spurs-game-preview-thread-may-3-2021[/url]
[QUOTE]As I covered in a recent downbeat, Bojan Bogdanovic is BACK! And it is an absolute joy to watch again. He finally has that swagger and confidence that was missing all season. Over his last 11 games he’s scoring over 22.5 points per game and shooting 41% from 3. With Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley out again tonight, Bojan may have to score 30+ again for the Jazz to keep their winning ways going.
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counting on Bojan and Clarkson is trouble
[QUOTE]The Lakers could slide solidly into 7th with a loss and a Blazers win. Putting them in jeopardy of finding themselves in the play in tournament. Something that LeBron James thought was a great idea last year, but has suddenly had a change of heart after a loss yesterday.
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poor Lebron! Hopefully they end up in the playin. Couldn't happen to a nicer franchise and their fanbase!!! :roll:
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Re: 2020-21 Regular season- The tax team
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/05/02/utah-jazz-3-jordan-clarkson-sixth-man/[/url]
[QUOTE]OK, so Clarkson also is a bit of a wild man at times, forcing shots from all over the floor with little regard for traffic standing in his way. Yes, he’s hitting only 41.5 percent of his field-goal attempts and only 34.4 percent from downtown.
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hat a gift he is :facepalm
[QUOTE]In other words, just judging from the brief evidence below, bad-man Clarkson is clearly underrated both as a razzle-dazzle leader and tone-fixing leaper:
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:roll:
[QUOTE]And even though Clarkson’s shooting percentages aren’t exactly off the charts, there is something to be said for his consistency when it comes to knocking down at least one 3-pointer per game. After all, his 86 consecutive outings with at least one 3-point make represent the longest such active streak in the league, ranking No. 7 in NBA history.
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there's nothing to be said by it other than bench his ass