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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865683291/Upstill-A-draft-guide-for-how-to-get-the-Jazz-to-play-Warriors-style.html[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz have a lot of players who can play in this system. George Hill and Dante Exum serve as combo guards. [/QUOTE]
Exum is an athlete. Has to prove he can play basketball. One year to do it! :banghead:
[QUOTE]The wings or 3-and-D guys are Gordon Hayward, Rodney Hood and Joe Ingles[/QUOTE]
Hood defends? Ingles can match up with GS in Oakland?
[QUOTE] White could become this season's Brogdon, a solid rotation player.[/QUOTE]
Need to quit expecting immediate help in the drafts. They are G-leaugers until proven otherwise
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://purpleandblues.com/2017/06/20/every-major-nba-rumortransaction-crazy-day-affects-utah-jazz/5/[/url]
Get Beverley. Could start or back0up George
[QUOTE]If Utah needs to create space to bring in a key player either via trade or free agency, but aren
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
Saw a fantasy trade that got us involved in Paul George going to the Cavs.
We get Kevin Love and basically give us Exum, Lyles, Johnson and OKC's first rounder to Pacers.
Pair him up with Gobert and re-sign Hayward and Hill and that's a quality starting 5.
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[QUOTE=El Kabong]Saw a fantasy trade that got us involved in Paul George going to the Cavs.
We get Kevin Love and basically give us Exum, Lyles, Johnson and OKC's first rounder to Pacers.
Pair him up with Gobert and re-sign Hayward and Hill and that's a quality starting 5.[/QUOTE]
Yep and still have cap space to sign a starting sg plus the mid-level for another good rotation player. Vets would line up to play for the vet minimum for a top 4 team. You wouldn't hate to see Exum go?
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
Milos Teodosic is out of the picture now that the Nets have Russell. The Nets have made it a point to find playmaking guards who can play multiple positions. In a point guard heavy league it
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
Joe Ingles: Kid: Do you have a job? Me: Yes, my job is playing basketball. Kid: No, I mean a real job, like at a building site.
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765695768/For-some-rookies-NBA-draft-isnt-the-start-of-a-pro-career.html[/url]
My guy! :cheers:
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/6/21/15415232/2017-nba-free-agency-utah-jazz-paul-millsap-george-hill-gordon-hayward-ricky-rubio[/url]
[QUOTE]What magic does Dennis Lindsey, resident wizard, have up his sleeve?[/QUOTE]
This is old! What has he done other than luck out with Rudy?
[QUOTE]I love Derrick Favors and Alec Burks, but right now they appear to be expendable. Both have dealt with nagging injuries the past couples of years, and neither look like they’re a great fit in Quin Snyder’s system. Rodney Hood has regressed as well, but his contract is a team-friendly rookie deal through next season. Hood easily has the best trade value of the three. It’s reasonable to assume that anyone not named Rudy is being considered a trade asset right now.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't assume that but that should be the case. I'll be surprised if they trade Joe Johnson and he should be at the top of the list for example. Favors and Burks need to show they are healthy again before trading them
[QUOTE]Favors and Burks have combined salaries totaling nearly $23 million in 2017-18. Trading one or both of them to a team for picks or prospects makes a lot of sense. If the Jazz can dump $20~ million in salary in exchange for what would become a cheap rookie contract, and open up more flexibility to potentially sign another impact player (more on this later), that’s probably the right move. It would suck to see either of these guys go, but if Lindsey thinks it’s the right move for the franchise, it’s likely he would make the move.[/QUOTE]
He was trying to trade Favors at the deadline and the offers weren't good enough. Doubt that changes suddenly. He has value with him being eligible for an extension. If he shows he can still play someone might give quite a bit for him if he agrees to an extension
[QUOTE]Operating under the following assumptions: Diaw’s contract is waived; Utah keeps both the 24th and 30th picks; DL trades away Favors and Burks; here are a few free agent possibilities that could work.[/QUOTE]
I see them doing something by July 1st. They have cap space to burn still and need to impress Hayward. Could see them getting rid of all their picks. With Wallace, Bolomboy, Lyles and Exum still developing I don't think they need more than one rookie to take the other two way contract really.
[QUOTE]Is Dennis Lindsey comfortable with Dante Exum stepping in as the starter this season? If he is, then the point guard situation becomes significantly easier to handle.[/QUOTE]
If he's the wizard you say he is why would he think that. Exum has shown little to think he's the guy. I could see him starting at the 2 if he could hit shots and defend without his hands. Hasn't shown he can
[QUOTE]Assuming Lindsey and Quin Snyder are both on board with Exum as a starter[/QUOTE]
Snyder wasn't on board with Exum as a rotation player much of last year. Now he wants him starting? Very doubtful. The Jazz need a vet to start unless they want to start Neto which I could back a lot more than Exum because he was solid in that role last year. Don't see that happening though. Need a vet. Need Hill!
[QUOTE] Patty Mills, Shaun Livingston, and Deron Williams would make for solid backups at around $5-10 million a year, with Mills likely on the higher end of that range. Patty Mills seems to make the most sense from a fit standpoint, if Utah can pry him away from the Spurs.[/QUOTE]
I could see giving Mills a shot as a starter. Might get him to leave SA but he could be starting there with Parker out. Livingston doesn't fit. Deron ideally is a back-up
[QUOTE]If not, the options are Hill, Teague, and Collison. Hill and his agent have already indicated that they expect a max contract, which he is unlikely to get unless he signs with a team like New York or Brooklyn. It’s hard to know what Teague’s market value is, but Collison is likely in the $15-20 million range. That is a possibility if one or both of Burks/Favors contracts are moved.[/QUOTE]
Collison is a back-up. Teague doesn't fit.
[QUOTE]The first group can only realistically be targeted if both Favors and Burks are moved to open up the extra cap space.[/QUOTE]
Wrong! They are close to signing anyone right now under the cap. Sign Hayward and Hill after that
[QUOTE]Millsap can do it all, including some ball handling. He’s the total package.[/QUOTE]
And yet they let him go so Enes and Favors could play! :rant
[QUOTE] If he’s willing to sign at a discount in the $15-20 million range, he’d be a perfect fit in the Jazz system next to Gobert. [/QUOTE]
Doubt he's giving a discount but I can definitely see him wanting to come back and be on a top 4 team
[QUOTE]Ibaka may command too much money, since he’s never really had a big contract and might be ready to cash in at this point in his career. [/QUOTE]
His last contract was big. He might triple that but it was nothing to sneeze at
[QUOTE]Muscala will likely be paid well this summer, so he may be priced out of the range the Jazz will have to work with.[/QUOTE]
How is priced out and Millsap isn't. Doubt he's getting 20 million a year! :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE]The next group of guys might be available in the $8-12 million range, which means the Jazz may be able to hang onto Favors and only need to move Burks in order to make room:
Jonas Jerebko, Amir Johnson, Nene, Spencer Hawes, Omri Casspi, Donatas Motiejunas, Taj Gibson, Danilo Gallinari.[/QUOTE]
Muscala is getting paid more than Gallinari? 12 million for Gallinari? :facepalm
I could see all those guys except Nene and Gibson. Could we actually pay attention to what the Jazz have done under Lindsey and Snyder before writing these? They let Booker go because they thought Diaw and Lyles could hit 3's. They would have been a lot better off with Booker though! :banghead:
[QUOTE]The Jazz could do much worse for a backup big man.[/QUOTE]
They need a starting 4 unless they move Hayward there which I think may be the way to go. Might have to wait until they move Favors later in the year though? Need a vet to back-up Rudy but again that might have to wait until Favors is dealt later. I can see Bolomboy getting at least back-up minutes at the 4 eventually
[QUOTE] Whether it’s because of age, a question of fit with the team, or simply chemistry, these guys could either be nice options as bench guys or could be total disasters. It would be interesting to see DL roll the dice on someone from this group. Gasol, Ian Clark, JJ Redick, Vince Carter[/QUOTE]
Carter and Gasol make sense. Redick makes none for the amount of money he will get ad certainly doesn't fit as a starter. Clark can shoot but he doesn't have anything else that makes him a great fit here. He looks good shooting wide open 3's in GS
[QUOTE]Whatever happens, this summer is set up to be the most interesting free agency in recent memory. Expect Dennis Lindsey to put the Jazz in a position to succeed.[/QUOTE]
It should have been last summer actually but the wizard failed
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://hoopshabit.com/2017/06/20/utah-jazz-paul-george-trade-makes-no-sense/[/url]
[QUOTE]Averaging a career-high 23.7 points per game last season, George is an elite points-producer in many ways. He
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[QUOTE]The move is seen largely as a salary dump by the now-rebuilding Hawks, who signed Howard to a three-year, $70.5 million contract last year.
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[QUOTE]From ESPN’s Brian Windhorst: [The Dwight Howard trade] is the Hawks sending a signal that they are going into a full rebuild mode, and it would also imply that Paul Millsap probably will not be back with the organization. – via SLAM
Trade, Dwight Howard, Paul Millsap, Atlanta Hawks
There are three or four teams out there that are willing to give Millsap a max contract, and sources have told me that the Hawks have begun getting some feelers on sign-and-trades. – via SLAM
Teams like the Phoenix Suns, Sacramento Kings and Denver Nuggets are interested in Paul Millsap. – via SLAM[/QUOTE]
A sign and trade might work even better if the Hawks will take back Joe Johnson and Favors! Hard to believe he would want to go to one of those teams more than the Jazz. He did play with Earl. Kings are a mess. Denver is about where the Jazz were a couple years ago so that one maybe. There's max and there's a 4 year max. Big difference. I could see the Jazz maybe giving him max on a shorter deal anyway at his age. Bring back Paul! Right one of the biggest wrongs the franchise has made! :cheers:
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[QUOTE]Marc Stein: Free Agency Scuttle: Houston is making Ryan Anderson/Lou Williams/Patrick Beverley available via trade to create summer spending flexibility
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz have made a trade inquiry on Houston Rockets point guard Patrick Beverley, multiple sources told The Salt Lake Tribune on Wednesday morning. The Jazz are one of 12 teams that has reached out to the Rockets in hopes of acquiring him. Utah general manager Dennis Lindsey is actively shopping for a veteran point guard, sources say.
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sports/5427539-155/utah-jazz-gambler-in-gm-lindsey[/url]
[QUOTE]Conventional wisdom suggests a playoff team may be hesitant to bring five rookies onto a win-now roster. But the advent of the new two-way contracts may test that theory.[/QUOTE]
As the beat writer and not an intern you should know that under Lindsey they haven't wanted more than 2. Supposedly the reason for stashing Neto though him outplaying the guy they traded for two firsts probably played into that. They only had one last year when they finally added some vets. With Exum, Lyles and Bolomboy all still unproven I can't see more than 2 and that's only because of the two ways. If Hayward leaves and they try to tank again it would only be 3 or 4 rookies at most.
[QUOTE]Utah, which has picks 24 and 30 in the first round, is confident in its ability to find capable rotation help, even late in the first round. [/QUOTE]
To me still thinking you can find immediate help in the draft is a huge problem. They haven't yet under Lindsey! They should assume anyone they draft will at least start the year in the G-league.
[QUOTE]we know this is a good draft."[/QUOTE]
you think it is. Time will tell
[QUOTE]Lindsey said the team's needs can't be ignored[/QUOTE]
That's why they put players into tiers. When they draft if there is a center in that tier they need to get one. After that I'd say wing or combo forward maybe.
[QUOTE]That means the Jazz could look at selecting a big man. At power forward, Boris Diaw's contract for next year is non-guaranteed. Derrick Favors is entering the last year of his contract. Jeff Withey will be a free agent, and Trey Lyles didn't play well in his sophomore season. To that end, the Jazz brought in a significant number of power forwards and centers for pre-draft workouts. [/QUOTE]
No mention of Bolomboy yet again! :wtf:
[QUOTE]The Jazz also may need a point guard, with Hill now a free agent, along with Shelvin Mack. [/QUOTE]
Still have Exum, Neto and Wallace though two of those could play wing as well. Need a vet pg.
[QUOTE]And with the Jazz holding $13 million they need to spend before July 1, it would be smart to keep an eye on Lindsey the gambler. [/QUOTE]
They need to spend at least 3 to get to the minimum. After that you don't necessarily want to take on salary before free agency. If you can make things more attractive for Hayward and Hill you do that though