Re: The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History
[QUOTE=G.O.A.T]All but one is
I think all the PG's I have ahead of him are deserving of being mentioned in the same breath or even more highly regarded then KJ. I am a Suns fan of the 1990-1996 era though so I could be being too bias against him while trying to be objective.[/QUOTE]
Mark Price and Tim Hardaway, are they ahead of him ???
Also, Gilbert Arenas should be at the 100 spot with those other young guns ...
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[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]Mark Price and Tim Hardaway, are they ahead of him ???
Also, Gilbert Arenas should be at the 100 spot with those other young guns ...[/QUOTE]
Of the two you listed one is one spot ahead of him and one is one spot behind at the position on my list.
Arenas injury keeps him out again this year. he was on the list in 2007 at #100. He still is likely to crack the top 100 before all is said and done on most peoples lists I think.
Re: The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]Mark Price and Tim Hardaway, are they ahead of him ???
Also, Gilbert Arenas should be at the 100 spot with those other young guns ...[/QUOTE]
Tim Hardaway was better than Kevin Johnson.
Re: The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History
Looks like a good effort. Ignore the nit pickers, something like this is so tough to do.
You might consider finding a top 100 from 30 or 40 years ago to see if any old cats have fallen off the radar. In a recent "top SF's" thread, someone came back into my mind who I had not thought of in easily 20 years. Might be interesting to read too.
Re: The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History
IMO Ray Allen should be at least in the low 80s at most high 50s, but I will wait and see. In his prime he could drive pretty well, could actually create his own shot (way, way better than Reggie Miller from what I've seen) instead of coming off of screens like he does now and was explosive in his youth. As for intangibles he is clutch, and has great leadership qualities. In Seattle his teammates looked up to him and copied his work ethic and it translated on the court. He is the man who had to sacrifice the most when coming to the Boston Celtics, and transformed his game to fit the team. That is a sign of a great teammate IMO and he should be brought up a dozen spots at the least.
He also won a championship.
Then again I am a biased homer fanboy. Sooo you can disregard this opinion, and I will also wait for your #94 who I think I will rip to pieces solely because of who you put on #95. :D
P.S. If you liked Big Dog, if he is ahead of Ray Allen in this list I will :cry:
Re: The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History
i'm looking forward to the rest of this list. it should be interesting.
Re: The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History
[QUOTE=goldenryan]i'm looking forward to the rest of this list. it should be interesting.[/QUOTE]
I think the top 50 most would agree all make this top 100 list. ITs ho gets added that makes this interesting and how the 100 are ranked. I see Ray Allen I wonder if Jamal Willks is on the list how about Chet Walker, Spencer Haywood, Maurice Lucas and Bobby Dandrige. All should be on a top 100 list.
Re: The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History
[QUOTE=Niquesports]I think the top 50 most would agree all make this top 100 list. ITs ho gets added that makes this interesting and how the 100 are ranked. I see Ray Allen I wonder if Jamal Willks is on the list how about Chet Walker, Spencer Haywood, Maurice Lucas and Bobby Dandrige. All should be on a top 100 list.[/QUOTE]
They all should be on the list as top 100, but not over Ray Allen (except Spencer Haywood.)
Re: The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History
Ray Allen should be way higher than that....65-80 IMO.
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Wow.
I cant wait to see this list...
Not in a good way.
Re: The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]They all should be on the list as top 100, but not over Ray Allen (except Spencer Haywood.)[/QUOTE]
I would say Jammal and Dandrige would be good arguments to be placed over Ray Ray
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[QUOTE=G.O.A.T]why even say that. What are you some overtly pessimistic *******?[/QUOTE]
Actually Im optimistic. If I wasnt, I'd have you on ignore and give you no hope whatsoever, like any smart person would do.
Its a good thing Im a certified dumbass.
Re: The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History
[QUOTE=Niquesports]I would say Jammal and Dandrige would be good arguments to be placed over Ray Ray[/QUOTE]
No way, they weren't elite as long as Allen has been. Hell, I think Super Lue Hudson was better than both and has a better argument with Ray Allen.
Re: The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History
[QUOTE=L.Kizzle]No way, they weren't elite as long as Allen has been. Hell, I think Super Lue Hudson was better than both and has a better argument with Ray Allen.[/QUOTE]
Dont get me wrong I love Ray Ray or should we call him Jesus but since when was he elite and how many ALL NBA First teams has he made?