starbright, starlight, starface...

[QUOTE=johndeeregreen]I can't even begin to tell you how much I would avoid any sort of clinical trial that offered $7k for two weeks of work. You don't figure maybe there's a reason they need to pay people an exorbitant amount of money to do nothing except be guinea pigs?[/QUOTE]


yeah its cause you have to have 17 days in a row available to stay overnight, but have to pass an alcohol, drug, nicotine, and general health screen so you cant just be some bum off the street, and then of course you have to get stuck with a needle once a day for a blood draw and of course there's "technically" a risk involved to an investigational drug (this one's for an asthma medication, which coincidentally i have anyway) but this isn't some underground lab testing crazy stuff the way most people probably picture it. these take place constantly around the country, i've done about a dozen since getting out of college, the facilities are state of the art, big screen tv's, recliners, ping pong tables, etc. etc.

[QUOTE=Tito Beasley]yeah its cause you have to have 17 days in a row available to stay overnight, but have to pass an alcohol, drug, nicotine, and general health screen so you cant just be some bum off the street, and then of course you have to get stuck with a needle once a day for a blood draw and of course there's "technically" a risk involved to an investigational drug (this one's for an asthma medication, which coincidentally i have anyway) but this isn't some underground lab testing crazy stuff. these take place constantly around the country, i've done about a dozen since getting out of college, the facilities are state of the art, big screen tv's, recliners, ping pong tables, etc. etc.[/QUOTE]
No, I realize that, but they could fill these things pretty easily for much less than that, I'm sure. If it seems too good to be true (making 7 grand for doing nothing), it is. Not saying it's going to be harmful to you in this instance per se, just that I'd rather earn my money than be someone's guinea pig.

[quote]i've done about a dozen since getting out of college, the facilities are state of the art, [B]big screen tv's, recliners[/B][/quote]

:oldlol:

Ironically enough, this sounds like something a bum would be volunteering to do. Makes it sound like a prisoner release program. Haven't you seen Surviving the Game with Ice-T? Before you know it, you'll be looking out a plane down at NW Canada hundreds of miles away from civilization. You'll look over at the guy sitting next to you suited up in camouflage, he grins looks at you and says "you sure do gotta purdy mouf."

[QUOTE=Legend of Josh]Haven't you seen Surviving the Game with Ice-T? [/QUOTE]


The great irony of this question is that I have seen it, I watched it during my stay at a clinical trial :roll:

sounds like you're on the right track, as long as you understand what a grind pursuing this dream is they can't f*ck with you. you have to train yourself to love rejection and figure out what's realistic, if you're expecting to be Tom Cruise big you're in for a letdown. It's very difficulut to make a living as an actor, you'd be surprised how many recognizable actors live in small apartments and really struggle. If you can afford to join AFTRA you should go ahead and jump on that, can't hurt, AFTRA took over a lot of new TV shows after the SAG situation (SAG couldn't agree on a new contract, looked like they might strike). SAG still dominates features (and over half of TV probably) and that's really the union you want to get into. I might be able to help you get your SAG vouchers next LA show I get but my next job will likely be in NYC (Men in Black 3!). I'd say the same thing I said to halftime, get on craigslist and try to get parts on some low/no budget shit, student films, shorts, web series, whatever the f*ck you can get on, it will suck but you might be able to piece together a reel from it (ask for dailys). register with central and do a few days of background to get used to being on a real set and see how shit works. learn some lingo, etc.

do you have theater experience or are you just jumping into this? finding an agent is key but finding an agent to believe in you is tricky when you're just a kid off the street. it's gonna be tough too because you're young and you don't have brad pitt/josh hartnett looks (no offense, i'm sure you realize this though, at least you're fit, that helps), not a lot of great character actor parts for 25 year olds. you're likely gonna be trying to get cop, doctor, military roles for a while. It's not easy, getting into SAG and getting an agent who's going to put you up for shit is the first big step, the second step is getting that first (couple) role(s). You gotta just go for it, there's thousands of people out here who say they're actors but they never audition, they don't take classes, they're just sitting around waiting for someone to pick them out of the crowd and it will never happen. Gotta hustle.

LD actually sounds like he knows the 'getting your foot in the door' undertaking. Maybe you're already aware of all this starface, but I'm not quite sure you do. You brag about how honest and open you are about everything, yet you've never alluded to anything that would suggest to us here you have any freakin' clue whatsoever about how you're going to accomplish getting into the industry. Maybe you should take some notes from LD.

Confidence is obviously vital, but LD, from your experience, would you say being overly confidence bleeding into cocky is more of a + or -? If starface is anything offline as he is online, I think he's going to be seen right through, and as you mentioned, experience some letdowns, probably equating to eventual meltdowns for homey.

[QUOTE=Lamar Doom]

do you have theater experience or are you just jumping into this? [/QUOTE]

no theatre experience other than that the way i communicate is pretty theatrical by nature. when i talk to people or make presentations (especially things i'm passionate about) i get very animated, very flamboyant, very bold, the voice starts rising and falling, the hands are everywhere, "i dont care what you want, you're gonna hear what i have to say" attitude comes out. i'm a salesperson, communicating and putting on a show is what i do. in real life i'm just like i am here, except i TRY not to be quite as hostile (even though by nature i sometimes want to) - although many times i've failed and gotten in some trouble over it - but honestly when i talk people listen because i make them. im not passive or shy or unsure, i dont wait my turn to speak and im not still and monotone when i do it. i can act anything, belieeee dat.

[QUOTE=Lamar Doom]finding an agent is key but finding an agent to believe in you is tricky when you're just a kid off the street. [/QUOTE]

This is where my salesmanship and eloquence will hopefully come in. while i'm in the study i'm gonna send out my headshots and cover letters etc. to a bunch of agents and basically convince them why i'm gold, and i have no doubt i'll be able to get at least one of them hooked. like i said, that's what i do.

[QUOTE=Lamar Doom] not a lot of great character actor parts for 25 year olds. [/QUOTE]

yeah this is what the headshot lady was saying, it could be tough that i'm a little bit past playing in a high school movie but not really old enough to be a detective or a parent or a surgeon etc. there's a limited number of parts out there but they are out there, and putting anyone but me in them would be a mistake. once i get to meet people in person i'll be able to get that across. that's the hardest part about this whole thing for me, the fact that you have to do all sorts of submitting where people make their decisions just based on stuff on paper without getting to meet you. if i can get chances to meet with people, its over.

[QUOTE=Lamar Doom] getting into SAG and getting an agent who's going to put you up for shit is the first big step, the second step is getting that first (couple) role(s). [/QUOTE]

true dat, once i get my initial portfolio with headshots, resume, cover letters etc. together and get out of the study, it's go time. the funniest thing about being in this industry to me is that because there are so many people that do it, when you say you're an actor or whatever people are just like "oh, another one..." and assume you're like everyone but for me i see very clearly what other people bring and how i'm different, but its not something you can really explain until you get a chance to just go do it. but that being said, i'll say it again just for the hell of it so that everyone knows: i got dis!

You got dissss face... belieeee dat! You go boy.

anyway, where'd gobb disappear to? i mean we know he didnt actually log off the forum. funny how once i answered his question directly he shuttled off, either that or the sum-pump broke in his parents basement and he's knee deep in water right now scrambling to get the computer unplugged and out of harm's way.

Gotta love your confidence but don't you think you should sprinkle a little bit a realism in there every once in a while?

[QUOTE=Tito Beasley]no theatre experience other than that the way i communicate is pretty theatrical by nature. when i talk to people or make presentations (especially things i'm passionate about) i get very animated, very flamboyant, very bold, the voice starts rising and falling, the hands are everywhere, "i dont care what you want, you're gonna hear what i have to say" attitude comes out. i'm a salesperson, communicating and putting on a show is what i do. in real life i'm just like i am here, except i TRY not to be quite as hostile (even though by nature i sometimes want to) - although many times i've failed and gotten in some trouble over it - but honestly when i talk people listen because i make them. im not passive or shy or unsure, i dont wait my turn to speak and im not still and monotone when i do it. i can act anything, belieeee dat.



This is where my salesmanship and eloquence will hopefully come in. while i'm in the study i'm gonna send out my headshots and cover letters etc. to a bunch of agents and basically convince them why i'm gold, and i have no doubt i'll be able to get at least one of them hooked. like i said, that's what i do.



yeah this is what the headshot lady was saying, it could be tough that i'm a little bit past playing in a high school movie but not really old enough to be a detective or a parent or a surgeon etc. there's a limited number of parts out there but they are out there, and putting anyone but me in them would be a mistake. once i get to meet people in person i'll be able to get that across. that's the hardest part about this whole thing for me, the fact that you have to do all sorts of submitting where people make their decisions just based on stuff on paper without getting to meet you. if i can get chances to meet with people, its over.



true dat, once i get my initial portfolio with headshots, resume, cover letters etc. together and get out of the study, it's go time. the funniest thing about being in this industry to me is that because there are so many people that do it, when you say you're an actor or whatever people are just like "oh, another one..." and assume you're like everyone but for me i see very clearly what other people bring and how i'm different, but its not something you can really explain until you get a chance to just go do it. but that being said, i'll say it again just for the hell of it so that everyone knows: i got dis![/QUOTE]

I think you're hilariously delusional, but I will continue to enjoy the comedic arc of your career.

[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]Gotta love your confidence but don't you think you should sprinkle a little bit a realism in there every once in a while?[/QUOTE]


dude i am being realistic.

[QUOTE=Tito Beasley]dude i am being realistic.[/QUOTE]

Alright then.

[QUOTE=Tito Beasley]dude i am being realistic.[/QUOTE]

i-LLy?

:oldlol:

You HAVE to make it now. Don't let us down.

[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]I think you're hilariously delusional, [B]but I will continue to enjoy the comedic arc of your career.[/B][/QUOTE]


thats the goal in this biz, thanks for the support