give me iverson he is a fighter and better than wade on O
wade is better on D though
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give me iverson he is a fighter and better than wade on O
wade is better on D though
[QUOTE=AngelEyes]I'm not going to penalize Wade for being larger and stronger than Iverson. To do so would be ridiculous. I understand perfectly Iverson's greatness as a scorer, but as great as he was I think Wade is on the same kind of level, despite the difference in scoring totals. Wade is a much more willing passer than Iverson ever was and this reflects his scoring totals. To put up over 30 points per game in a season and shoot 49% is astonishing and something I don't think Iverson could have ever done. Wade's size allows him to do more than Iverson could ever do. Iverson was never equal to Wade as a passer/playmaker.[/QUOTE]
Well said! I think that whatever Iverson was great at Wade was better at. No knock on AI even though I think playmaking passer wise they are very close. And scoring wise they are very close. I just think Wade is a better defender and more efficient a scorer. But AI being 6'0 or even smaller can only do so many things size wise compared to Wade. For example Wade can check PG, SG, or many SF's defensively. AI can't do that. I realize AI catches heat for his FG%. But AI played on many teams where he had to put up those many shots for his team to win. But in any event I gotta go Wade over AI. But both are amongst the top SG's of all time.
[QUOTE=jrong]Nice try. Wade's highest assist season was in 09 (7.5 apg) when he had neither Shaq nor LeBron. And in 07, before he got hurt after the all-star game, he was averaging 8 apg (along with 29 ppg) and Shaq missed half of the year-- basically, 80% of the games that were the ones Wade played.
This is Wade, and it's not in the least bit close. Fifty percent shooters are better than fourty percent shooters unless the 40% shooters do other things better. And Iverson does almost nothing better than Wade or even nearly as well.
You may compare Allen Iverson and Derrick Rose. [b]Reserve Dwyane Wade for comparisons that are worthy of him, please[/b].[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
This comparison to Iverson is just an insult to Wade. Wade has a much higher benchmark than Allen fvckin Iverson, and in so many ways it's ridiculous to even get into too deeply. It just shows the lack of basic basketball knowledge by some of the posters here.
[QUOTE=Heat007]Exactly.
This comparison to Iverson is just an insult to Wade. Wade has a much higher benchmark than Allen fvckin Iverson, and in so many ways it's ridiculous to even get into too deeply. It just shows the lack of basic basketball knowledge by some of the posters here.[/QUOTE]
we should compare him to jordan right
iverson is a fair comparison
Wade easily. Much more efficient scorer, more willing passer, far more committed to defense.
Well im just glad I got to watch Iverson play on a regular basis during his prime.:bowdown:
Its hard to explain, and comparing stats just cant do it. But he was just amazing to watch. Played with so much heart and went all out every game.. His 76ers teams were pretty average at best, but watching him take a game over was just awesome...
Comparing players like this is BS, but obviously if you had to take one it would be Wade because of his size, defence etc... Iverson is probably one of my favourite all time players though and its an unfair comparison IMO...
[QUOTE=donald_trump]lol iverson was not a better scorer than wade.
wade is better at getting to the ring.
better from midrange.
equal from 3.
better in the post.
and better off the catch and shoot.
what makes iverson the better scorer? id love to hear the reasons for the people claiming so.[/QUOTE]
3 50 points + in playoff out of 71 games for AI (won all 3 games)
0 50 points + in playoff out of 72 games for Dwhistle in high scoring avg and more favorable scoring rule
1 50 points + in playoff out of 208 games for Kobe overrated Bryant
talking about best scoring sg post jordan-era
here's ur answer for those who never watch AI played, or pretend to be like they watched before
[QUOTE=Nobler]If some of you cant see that Iverson is a chucker and infinitely worse than Wade than :facepalm Check his peak years as far as poitns go, his fg % was under 40 one year and barely over 40 the next. As to wear Wade's peak is 50. Iverson is overrated to hell and back on this site[/QUOTE]
that kb24 in ur profile pic is biggest choker 1 out 208 lol
we all know kb can put up big # when the game that's really not matter lol
[QUOTE=Shih508]3 50 points + in playoff out of 71 games for AI (won all 3 games)
0 50 points + in playoff out of 72 games for Dwhistle in high scoring avg and more favorable scoring rule
1 50 points + in playoff out of 208 games for Kobe overrated Bryant
talking about best scoring sg post jordan-era
here's ur answer for those who never watch AI played, or pretend to be like they watched before[/QUOTE]
yeah and jamal crawford having more 50 point games than carmelo makes him a better scorer.
I'll take Wade. Even tho AI got way more balls.
[QUOTE=Shih508]3 50 points + in playoff out of 71 games for AI (won all 3 games)
0 50 points + in playoff out of 72 games for Dwhistle in high scoring avg and more favorable scoring rule
1 50 points + in playoff out of 208 games for Kobe overrated Bryant
[B]talking about best scoring sg post jordan-era[/B]
here's ur answer for those who never watch AI played, or pretend to be like they watched before[/QUOTE]
can u shut up with that shit?
this whole post is pretty idiotic.
Thread pretty much sums up the overall intelligence level of the "fans" on this forum. People just post up stats without even looking at percentages.
Wade is FAR more efficient than Iverson was and also much more of a factor playing defense.
Iverson was an amazing one-on-one scorer and ballhandler, but Wade is a better player and it isn't really debatable, sorry.
Wade's game is built for more success in a variety of scenarios. There's only one kind of team that was successful around prime Iverson: surround him with defensive players with marginal offensive skills, and let Iverson shoot all day and night. I got caught up in Iverson's hype too when he first came out, and I"ll give him credit for what he did in his prime. But Wade is the better all-around player, and that's not really debatable to be honest.
[QUOTE=Geezer]Thread pretty much sums up the overall intelligence level of the "fans" on this forum. People just post up stats without even looking at percentages.
Wade is FAR more efficient than Iverson was and also much more of a factor playing defense.
Iverson was an amazing one-on-one scorer and ballhandler, but Wade is a better player and it isn't really debatable, sorry.[/QUOTE]
thats how I look at it
Iverson has better handles and a better outside shot than Wade and thats really it and guys are like "IVERSON IS THE BEST SCORER SINCE MJ"
What exactly does Iverson have on Wade? Scoring similar PPG on significantly lower FG%?