Jared Sullinger measures 6'10" in shoes with a 7'1" wingspan.

[QUOTE=Grinder]lmao @ attempting to be clever and failing to read any posts

Aside from the fact that none of those heights are remotely correct, none of those guys ever had an undersized label and had people doubting their ability to effectively play their position in the NBA like people often question Sullinger.[/QUOTE]

Ha then what do you think the heights of the players are in shoes then?

They are not undersized because nobody are calling them centers and powerfowards. But we have fools here calling Sullinger a centerbecause he is listed as 6'10 in shoes :roll: :roll:

Time for some logical reasoning lessons here:hammerhead:

Also, it's important to remember that Sullinger isn't some freak athlete like Barkley was. Barkley could weigh 265 lbs. and still [I]fly[/I]. Sullinger looks like he has a six inch vertical. He should watch a lot of Zach Randolph tape before he gets to the NBA.

Pinkhearts needs to take his own advice about taking logical reasoning lessons. :lol

What is pinkharts babbling about? Bron 6'10 in shoes? Sullinger has never been labelled undersized? Factis if he is 6-10 he can play center. Elton brand has played some center. Amare started at center. You should follow the point. Then again probably will miss it like u did grinders

[QUOTE=Grinder]Pinkhearts needs to take his own advice about taking logical reasoning lessons. :lol[/QUOTE]

How about taking your own advice and start providing evidence and arguments instead of simply shooting your mouth with no material :lol :oldlol: :roll:

[QUOTE=GOBB]What is pinkharts babbling about? Bron 6'10 in shoes? Sullinger has never been labelled undersized? Factis if he is 6-10 he can play center. Elton brand has played some center. Amare started at center. You should follow the point. Then again probably will miss it like u did grinders[/QUOTE]

Sure because you think Elton Brand and Amare are legit centers. :roll: Of course he is not undersized compared to these "huge centers" !:oldlol: Way to push a faulty point!:hammerhead:

Are we supposed to be impressed by a 6-10 player (in SHOES) with a 7-1 wingspan?

For those that may be interested...Wilt would have measured over 7-3 in SHOES, and he had a MEASURED 7-8 wingspan. Russell was easily 6-10 in SHOES, and he supposedly had a higher reach than 7-2 Kareem (who would have been close to 7-4 in SHOES.) And Nate Thurmond was 6-11 (and over 7-0 in SHOES) and he had a higher reach than Chamberlain.

Jared Sullinger is probably 6'8.5" without shoes, and 6'10" in his sneakers. LeBron has the same wingspan measurement as Sullinger.

Lemme guess you retards think that Duncan is the greatest PF of all time right?

Amare is a great center right

So is Al Jefferson?

:roll:

[QUOTE=jlauber]Are we supposed to be impressed by a 6-10 player (in SHOES) with a 7-1 wingspan?

For those that may be interested...Wilt would have measured over 7-3 in SHOES, and he had a MEASURED 7-8 wingspan. Russell was easily 6-10 in SHOES, and he supposedly had a higher reach than 7-2 Kareem (who would have been close to 7-4 in SHOES.) And Nate Thurmond was 6-11 (and over 7-0 in SHOES) and he had a higher reach than Chamberlain.[/QUOTE]

Where they considered undersized like sullinger?

[quote=Grinder]I don't quite understand either. They place too much emphasis on these things which leads to guys like Saer Sene getting drafted in the lottery while guys like Carl Landry and Paul Millsap routinely drop into the 2nd round.

Just this year, Nikola Vucevic went from a fringe 1st round pick to a mid first rounder pretty much based on the fact that he's a legit 7 footer with a big wingspan. It's not like skillset suddenly changed, yet that 1-2" difference in measurement is enough to boost him 15 spots in the draft. :wtf:[/quote]Completely disagree on Vucevic. Maybe his size had something to do with it, but his actual skill level had a lot more importance. Same kinda deal as Favors a couple years ago, very good player whose stats aren't too impressive because the guards on his team were chuckers that had no idea what an entry pass was. Neither coach helped either. I'm a big Vucevic believer, he could/should be a legitimate starting NBA 5 some day.

[QUOTE=Pinkhearts]Lemme guess you retards think that Duncan is the greatest PF of all time right?

Amare is a great center right

So is Al Jefferson?

:roll:[/QUOTE]

What are you even talkin about? The point is Sullinger is labelled an undersized fat kid who will have trouble playing 4. If he is 6'10 in shoes given hs wingspan at that? He's not so undersized to play the 4 and in fact could play some 5. My point with amare is he played Center as did brand. Are they ideal? Ate they legit centers? No. But in the NBA guys can play more than one position if the case calls for it. That's all that is said. Sullinger measures better than people think = point of the thread.

We are not doin calculus here

[QUOTE=GOBB]Where they considered undersized like sullinger?[/QUOTE]

See here shows how incapable you are of following logical thought. The point here is that Sullinger IS undersized to play center. Allow me to explain things to you as simply as I can.

- OP comes in saying Sullinger is not undersized. Posts his height in shoes and weight.

- Other posters state that height in shoes measurement is misleading and he is indeed undersized. Posts similar players like Kevin Love as an example

- More debate on how size in shoes is misleading for many players.

-Girl posts that if Lebron and Durant and Bynum were listed as their height in shoes, they'd look like beasts who are definite centers. Got hated on by dumb haters.

- Fool claims that Amare and Elton Brand are legit centers and are the same size as Sullinger so Sullinger is not undersized, totally missing the point that the guys he is using are all undersized.

- Poster states that 6'10 in shoes is nothing to shout about as many SFs are that height and many old great centers greatly surpass that height.

- Fool asks whether those guys are undersized, completely missing the point that the real centers listed are really big and Sullinger is undersized when compared to a real center.


Are you capable of following the discussion now? :hammerhead:

[QUOTE=GOBB]What are you even talkin about? The point is Sullinger is labelled an undersized fat kid who will have trouble playing 4. If he is 6'10 in shoes given hs wingspan at that? He's not so undersized to play the 4 and in fact could play some 5. My point with amare is he played Center as did brand. Are they ideal? Ate they legit centers? No. But in the NBA guys can play more than one position if the case calls for it. That's all that is said. Sullinger measures better than people think = point of the thread.

We are not doin calculus here[/QUOTE]


Amen. Sounds like a kid who can't comprehend the point of the thread. I never said he's a legit center, I said he has the size to and could play it if need be. :lol


[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]Completely disagree on Vucevic. Maybe his size had something to do with it, but his actual skill level had a lot more importance. Same kinda deal as Favors a couple years ago, very good player whose stats aren't too impressive because the guards on his team were chuckers that had no idea what an entry pass was. Neither coach helped either. I'm a big Vucevic believer, he could/should be a legitimate starting NBA 5 some day.[/QUOTE]

He's always been effective and productive at USC but it seems like his draft stock really took off after his measurements were favorable compared to Enes Kanter. I've always thought on skill set alone that he could be a first rounder but he was overlooked in draft discussions until only a month or so before the draft. I was pretty adamant up to the draft that the Sixers should take Vucevic and I'm glad we did. I'm worried about his ability to defend some of the more athletic 5s though.

We'll see him against some really good centers in Eurobasket coming up.

[QUOTE=GOBB]What are you even talkin about? The point is Sullinger is labelled an undersized fat kid who will have trouble playing 4. If he is 6'10 in shoes given hs wingspan at that? He's not so undersized to play the 4 and in fact could play some 5. My point with amare is he played Center as did brand. Are they ideal? Ate they legit centers? No. But in the NBA guys can play more than one position if the case calls for it. That's all that is said. Sullinger measures better than people think = point of the thread.

We are not doin calculus here[/QUOTE]

Looks like this is as complicated as calculus to you, even when it is so simple.

The point of this thread is stating that Sullinger IS an undersized fat kid. Playing him at center will be a disaster. Your point that Amare and Brand played center is totally irrelevant as those guys are too undersized to play center. Sure Sullinger could play center if the case calls for it, but so can Chuck Hayes. But should he be playing center? No!