Re: Who is the most respected player among players (as a person)?
[QUOTE=JerrySteakhouse]Uncle Tom!!![/QUOTE]
Is that you Jalen?:D
Re: Who is the most respected player among players (as a person)?
[QUOTE=upside24]Is that you Jalen?:D[/QUOTE]
:D
Re: Who is the most respected player among players (as a person)?
[QUOTE=elementally morale]Rodman was always a good guy. He committed some mistakes, yes. We all do. But he was a very generous and giving character and also an honest chap. I'm not getting into MJ and Kobe here, it is going to hijack the thread. As for Bird, I'm sure I would never want to be close to him as a co-worker or potential friend. There is something in his character I severely dislike -- unfortunately these very same attributes are the ones that make very talented players into legends and goat candidates.[/QUOTE]
You can try to avoid discussing MJ and Kobe, but you must realize Kobe IS one of the most respected players in the league.
You bring up a good point concerning Bird (the fact that some of these legends may not be so nice personally, but their negative personality traits directly influence their drive to succeed)
The question seems to be what personality traits other players respect, which is obviously going to be different for each individual. I feel the biggest factor in gaining respect is dominance. Regardless of personality, the best players are respected by the majority of the league : Kobe, MJ, Bird, Hakeem, Duncan, etc...
That is why I feel the majority of players probably did in fact respect David Robinson, because he was better than them. Respect by your peers is gained by superiority; whether or not someone is a nice or mean person is largely irrelevent.
Re: Who is the most respected player among players (as a person)?
[QUOTE=elementally morale]Rodman was always a good guy. He committed some mistakes, yes. We all do. But he was a very generous and giving character and also an honest chap. I'm not getting into MJ and Kobe here, it is going to hijack the thread. As for Bird, I'm sure I would never want to be close to him as a co-worker or potential friend. There is something in his character I severely dislike -- unfortunately these very same attributes are the ones that make very talented players into legends and goat candidates.[/QUOTE]
OH ok cool, don't worry I claim no stake in the Kobe vs Jordan lore.
Bottom line is the majority of people are assholes. I'm a doctor and very few doctors care about their patients and even fewer are good people. I'm not sure why it would be any different in basketball. Off the top of my head nba players who appear genuine and honest are dirk nowitzki, manu ginobli, andrei kirilenko, russell westbrook, and a few others I am forgetting.
Re: Who is the most respected player among players (as a person)?
[QUOTE=elementally morale]I think you are right. This is the reason I wanted to block out these aspects. A guy like MJ must have commanded crazy respect due to these attributes, but was he respected as a person? [/QUOTE]
Multiple people have claimed MJ is a real jackass off the court.
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Re: Who is the most respected player among players (as a person)?
I think guys like Baron Davis, Nash, Hill and Nowtizki are likeable/respectable guys. They're down-to-earth and funny and pretty human. That's the way I feel like they project. It's kind of like you could just sit around and chill with them, have a beer and a conversation and it'd be all good. :cheers:
As people, guys like Lebron, Melo, Kobe and Jordan bug the living daylights out of me because they just seem like they have bad personalities. Their game might be amazing (not denying that or taking away from the fact that they're great players) but they're a little bit diva-ish and it's not cute. :no:
However, I agree that players respect each other based on game and skills rather than personalities.
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Re: Who is the most respected player among players (as a person)?
[QUOTE=JerrySteakhouse]Uncle Tom!!![/QUOTE]
This shit has to stop. Dude just had a different upbringing. You can't expect him to be a ghetto superstar when he was never around that environment. Dude is one of the most respectable guys in the game. Period.
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Re: Who is the most respected player among players (as a person)?
[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]I know I will get flamed...
but most players respect the time you put in to perfect your technique....and the heart you show to win.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-f49jyMmo&feature=relmfu"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-f49jyMmo&feature=relmfu[/URL]
I think that weighs more heavily in the NBA for overall respect then off the court...most players in the league don't know or care to know each other off the court (outside of Teamates) to form solid opinions..
their opinion is formed on the battlefield...where it counts most.[/QUOTE]
dude be postin a 5 year old video...... smh... :hammerhead:
Re: Who is the most respected player among players (as a person)?
[QUOTE=elementally morale]I'm putting up some names. Do you think they are well respected as personalities?
Steve Nash
Shane Battier
Derek Fisher
Pau Gasol
Joakim Noah
Ray Allen
Grant Hill
Just 7 names off the top of my head to start with.[/QUOTE]
Noah? Don't think so.
Gasol either, sad but true.
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Isn't it Fisher because he's such a "Classy" guy?
Also DR J seemed to be beyond respect by all the guys on Open Court. It's as if he was god. So all time it might be DR. J
Found the segment [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NliXrQKwudE[/url]
That was true respect. And it was interesting to watch, because as a kid Dr J was a big name, even though he was way before the time of the kids my age, and now he's just an old NBA player that I don't think is that recognize by anyone younger, so shows you how guys like Kobe and Lebron are going to be like no names in 30 years. High chance of that.
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Duncan and Shaq but he retired
Re: Who is the most respected player among players (as a person)?
S u guys Duncan is respected cuz he duznt hav a personality?