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[QUOTE=millwad]Don't you ever get tired of writing all those essays while not getting any response [B]because no one reads them[/B]? Or do you just google them like everything else you put up, google boy?[/QUOTE]
Not true. I KNOW that YOU do. I can count on that.
Millwad has no life, he reads long essays about Wilt and then rages about them.
:lol
I love readin about the old school hoping to see the game ender information soon!!
I can remember him dropping finger rolls at the end of games as a Laker but not to talk about a specific game though and not so sure they were so-called game winners.... Russell when he was doing color in the 70s talked about game winners his view was considerably different from today
[QUOTE=La Frescobaldi]I love readin about the old school hoping to see the game ender information soon!!
I can remember him dropping finger rolls at the end of games as a Laker but not to talk about a specific game though and not so sure they were so-called game winners.... Russell when he was doing color in the 70s talked about game winners his view was considerably different from today[/QUOTE]
Well, from what has been posted here recently, Chamberlain had up to 15 actual game-winning shots, which would put him behind only Kareem, of the great centers, all-time. And Kareem played six seasons longer than Chamberlain did.
These "choker" MYTHS, perpetrated by the likes of the ignorant Bill Simmons, have just been blown to bits. And once again, the "Wilt-bashers" NEVER bring up the performances of Chamberlain's OPPOSING centers in Wilt's post-season play. Wilt generally DOMINATED his opposition in the playoffs, ESPECIALLY in BIG "must-win" games.
[QUOTE=32Dayz]Millwad has no life, he reads long essays about Wilt and then rages about them.
:lol[/QUOTE]
Haha, it's so lame that you say that I don't have a life when you post like 20 times more than me per day and that you in just a few months put up more posts then what I've done in 5 years.
You need to grow up, Brian.
[QUOTE=millwad]Haha, it's so lame that you say that I don't have a life when you post like 20 times more than me per day and that you in just a few months put up more posts then what I've done in 5 years.
You need to grow up, Brian.[/QUOTE]
Are you joking?
You write a fake story about me and photoshop 1000 different pictures with some googled Asian kids face and you tell me to grow up?
Sorry but you cant do sh** like that and then pretend to be mature and give me advice.
:facepalm
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[I]Add me on facebook pls man[/I]
Wilt's numbers will always look good, because that's what he cared for. He was an individual at first, team player second to the half of his career. It's no surprise his biggest team success came in the second part of his career when he was playing for the team.
He's got a legit case for GOAT. Now, is it better than the other candidates for the GOAT honor? IMO, not when compared to few guys. That's it.
[QUOTE=32Dayz]Are you joking?
You write a fake story about me and photoshop 1000 different pictures with some googled Asian kids face and you tell me to grow up?
Sorry but you cant do sh** like that and then pretend to be mature and give me advice.
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Haha, Brian.
I haven't photoshopped your pic even once, I have just posted your picture from the facebook-link you messaged me. Back then you weren't a troll and you begged me to add you on facebook you lonely kid. Mr "I just have internetfriends" and lets not forget that you have like 5 ISH accounts you lame lonely kid.
[QUOTE=millwad]Haha, Brian.
I haven't photoshopped your pic even once, I have just posted your picture from the facebook-link you messaged me. Back then you weren't a troll and you begged me to add you on facebook you lonely kid.[/QUOTE]
I have never once pm'd you or tried to talk to you outside of us arguing about Kobe or Wilt inside the forum in threads.
Any evidence that I tried to contact you, or PM you?
Any actual evidence that the person in the picture is me besides a madeup story you wrote?
No one believes you except for certain Trolls who use the picture to try and upset me although I dont understand why you think a picture of a random googled Asian kid would upset me.
Anyway keep being your same stupid self you'll never change, or make friends, or not be obese.
You're a failure in life and on this forum.
:lol
[QUOTE=32Dayz]I have never once pm'd you or tried to talk to you outside of us arguing about Kobe or Wilt inside the forum in threads.
Any evidence that I tried to contact you, or PM you?
Any actual evidence that the person in the picture is me besides a madeup story you wrote?
No one believes you except for certain Trolls who use the picture to try and upset me although I dont understand why you think a picture of a random googled Asian kid would upset me.
Anyway keep being your same stupid self you'll never change, or make friends, or not be obese.
You're a failure in life and on this forum.
:lol[/QUOTE]
Brian, you have multiple accounts and you're considered to be troll who gets owned time after time. You PM'd me about being lonely, how sad can someone be, you have multiple accounts but still you average almost 20 posts per day on your current account. I know I shouldn't have exposed you and your facebook pic like this but you troll'd too much. And haha, so lame that you set your profile to private after we owned you.. We consumed your life, dude..
When I exposed you, Brian, you got so owned that you even got banned, we all know you're just some lame asian kid without friends sitting at home 24/7 hanging on ISh. You're lonely as a stray dog..:facepalm
[QUOTE=millwad]Brian, you have multiple accounts and you're considered to be troll who gets owned time after time. You PM'd me about being lonely, how sad can someone be, you have multiple accounts but still you average almost 20 posts per day on your current account. I know I shouldn't have exposed you and your facebook pic like this but you troll'd too much. And haha, so lame that you set your profile to private after we owned you.. We consumed your life, dude..
When I exposed you, Brian, you got so owned that you even got banned, we all know you're just some lame asian kid without friends sitting at home 24/7 hanging on ISh. You're lonely as a stray dog..:facepalm[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=millwad]:blah [/QUOTE]
I am not Asian, I live in the US and I have plenty of good friends.
You just come on here to get owned by JLauber, rage about his essays then leave and come back 15 minutes to do the same thing.
You are probably fat and I'd say its a 95% chance you live in your mothers basement.
I have never PM'd you or ever wanted to be your friend although you may like to imagine I would be since you most likely have none of your own and certainly none on this forum.
Peace. :applause:
Live in the US? :lol
What time is it it Denver right now? Orlando? LA? New York?
The "Wilt-bashers" love to point out Chamberlain's three year period from '67-68 thru '69-70. They blame WILT for his Sixers "blowing" a 3-1 series lead in the '68 ECF's. Or a supposedly "stacked" Laker team losing to an old Celtic team in '69 (and with Wilt on the bench in the last five minutes of that game seven.) Or Wilt supposedly being "outplayed" by a "crippled" Reed in game seven of the '70 Finals.
I have covered those MYTHS many times, but here we go again.
[B]67-68. First round of the playoffs. In the clinching game six win of the Knicks-Sixers series, Chamberlain outscored Bellamy, 25-19 to go along with 27 rebounds, in a 113-97 romp.[/B]
Comments: The 62-20 Sixers, who once again obliterated the NBA during the regular season, lost HOFer Billy Cunningham in game four of the first round, and he would not return the rest of the playoffs. Even without him, and on a team that did not have much depth, they won easily won the last two games of the series. And all Chamberlain did in the series, was to lead BOTH teams in scoring, at 25.5 ppg, rebounding, at 24.2 rpg, AND assists, at 6.3 apg. He also reduced Bellamy, who had shot .541 during the regular season, to a .421 brick-layer in the series. For the series, Bellamy averaged 20.0 ppg, 16.0 rpg, and 3.5 apg.
Another sidenote...Wilt played every minute of the series, which included three games in three straight days.
[B]ECF's. In game seven, Wilt outscored Russell, 14-12, and outrebounded him, 34-26, in a 100-96 loss. Still, he only shot 4-9 from the field, and an even worse 6-15 from the line.[/B]
Comments: Yes, Wilt's Sixers lost a 3-1 series lead, but to say that they "blew it" was a complete joke. The Sixers, who just waltzed thru the regular season, were nowhere near the same team that lost a game seven by four points to the Celtics. I already mentioned the loss of Cunningham in the first round against the Knicks. Then, in game five, BOTH Luke Jackson and Wali Jones suffered leg injuries. And, once again, as talented as that Sixer team was, they were not a deep team (unlike the Celtics, who could go ten deep.)
Furthermore, Chamberlain came into the playoffs at less than 100%, and was nursing a strained hamstring, arthristis in his knee, a bum toe, and then a partial tear in his right calf, which had him NOTICEABLY LIMPING from game three thru the rest of the series. Even Russell commented that a "lessor man would not have played." Even more remarkable was the fact that Wilt played every minute of every game of the playoffs.
His Sixers, without Cunningham, and then Jackson and Jones in game five, were routed 122-104. It was still a close game with about ten minutes left, and Philly holding an 81-79 lead, but the depleted Sixers shot 2-20 down the stretch. However, Chamberlain easily outplayed Russell in that game, despite being noticeably hobbled, outscoring him, 28-8, and outrebounding him, 30-24.
Jackson and Jones were injured and basically worthless. In game six, a 114-106 loss, Jackson was able to score 10 points, but Jones could hardly play, and did not score. The "anti-Chamberlain clan" pointed out that Wilt had a poor game six, scoring 20 points on 6-21 shooting from the floor, and 8-23 from the line...and it was one of his worst playoff games of his career...but he did manage to pull down 27 rebounds.
Of course, we KNOW that players like Willis Reed and Kareem would not have even PLAYED under the same conditions. Yet, here was Wilt, at far less than 100%, gutting out a 48 minute performance.
In that game seven, four point loss, the Chamberlain critics, like Simmons, point out that Wilt only took two shots in the second half, both on offensive rebounds. BUT, the real question had to be why Wilt's teammates completely ignored Chamberlain in that second half. Wilt routinely touched the ball about 15 times at the offensive end, per quarter during the season, however, he only got seven touches in the third quarter, and then only those two offensive tips in the 4th quarter.
Meanwhile, Greer shot 8-25; Chet Walker 8-22 (and an even worse 4-14 in the second half); Guokas 2-10; and the hobbled Wali Jones was at 8-22. While Wilt shot 4-9, his teammates collectively shot .333...all while ignoring him in that second half.
Some have argued that Wilt should have DEMANDED the ball. Obviously, in retrospect, he SHOULD have. BUT, where was his COACH? Hannum was one of the best coaches of all-time, but in this game he was awful. Furthermore, given all of the criticsim that Chamberlain had received earlier in his career, for being a "selfish ball-hog", one can only imagine the public outcry after the game, had Wilt been yelling at his teammates to get him "the damn ball."
For the series, Wilt averaged 22.1 ppg, 25.4 rpg, and 6.7 apg. Russell did play brilliantly, ... some called it his greatest post-season series against Wilt...and he averaged 11.6 ppg and 23.9 rpg. Still, Wilt was nowhere near 100%, and he certainly was not outplayed.
Of course, had the Sixers been as healthy as they were in the 66-67 season, there was no question that they would have repeated their 4-1 blowout series win in the prior season. The Wilt-bashers never mention that fact, nor the fact that Wilt was PLAYING when virtually no other player would have been.