Anthropomorphic Measurement of NBA bigmen 60s/70s vs Modern NBA era

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[QUOTE=Psileas]I'll put it another way (to relate better to some competition from the same era): I find it hard to believe that Jerry Lucas at his heaviest was a measly 5 lbs lighter than Nate Thurmond at his heaviest or 10 lbs lighter than the heaviest Willis Reed, unless I missed some version of Lucas I never knew about. These are guys who were both taller and thicker than him.
Wes Unseld's weight seems more plausible, but Unseld was only a hair above 6'7.[/QUOTE]
It's possible, I'm only going by the recorded info I've turned up - if you've got a hunch there's some wider gaps or variation in their weights I'm sure it's possible that they peaked slightly higher and I'm missing it. The gist of what I'm getting at though, is that there really doesn't appear to be any measurable size differences of bigmen then vs bigmen now (specifically I mean length/height), the exact same size players are being drafted today - they just are getting [I]listed[/I] taller.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Random measurements I've uncovered.

[B]Bill Russell[/B] - Center
Height w/o shoes: [B]6-9.63"[/B]
Wingspan: 7-4
Standing Reach w/o shoes: ~9-4
Hand Length: 10.5"
Hand Width: 9.5"
Career weight range: 215-240lbs[/QUOTE]

In an interview at the 2009 All-Star Game, Bill Russell said he started his career at 215lb and ended it at 228lb.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCFm8RRTjYQ[/url]

2 minutes 10 seconds onwards.

[QUOTE=WillC]In an interview at the 2009 All-Star Game, Bill Russell said he started his career at 215lb and ended it at 228lb.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCFm8RRTjYQ[/url]

2 minutes 10 seconds onwards.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I've posted that video on this site before. When he mentions 228 I believe he's referring to the end of that final season [I]after being played into shape[/I]. Months prior I have an article about him entering that final season 10lbs overweight after vacationing in Hollywood all summer (and his playing weight from '66-'69 was an otherwise steady 230 just like the 228 alludes too). Also, when Russell was fully healthy, and in his prime in the earlier 60's - his body mass was oft printed between 222-225lbs. In his first few seasons it is printed between 215-218lbs.

[QUOTE=Punpun]No way. And for a good reason. Just look at track and field. Athlete now are way better than back then. And the 11 centers you listed were freaks of nature. 11 freaks in 30 years. Most of them would have normal size nowadays. And be less strong, less athletic etc.[/QUOTE]


Humans haven't improved that much (if any ) athletically since the 60's idiot. Maybe training,techniques & equipment have improved ,but not humans.

And you really gonna used dope infested track & field to make your point?

Ask todays long jumpers about inferior 60's athlete's like Bob Beamon whom they can't touch.


Jim Hines 1960's world record in the 100 meter was safe until the 80's & most sprinters breaking the record since then have been proven to be dopeheads.

Hines wr 1968

Calvin Smith wr 1983(clean more than likely)

Ben Johnson 1988 wr(steroids)


Mo Greene's (admits to buying drugs but not using them:oldlol: )

Tim Montgomery(busted / steroids)

Justin Gatlin ( busted)

Linford .Christie(dope head)

That's just a few wr holders & champions


Females

Marion Jones admits to 8 years of passed test while she was doping

Flo Jo never failed ,but looked like a Transvestite with very suspicious improvements

Evelyn Ashford (1983) is probably still the 'clean' women's record over 30 years ago.


Bob Beamon says shtfu:facepalm

Are you trying to say The runner of now are doped ? I sure hop you can back that up. Aka, your rant is so not pertinent it's freaking funny you believe you succeeded in proving something.

:yaohappy:

[QUOTE=Punpun]Are you trying to say The runner of now are doped ? I sure hop you can back that up. Aka, your rant is so not pertinent it's freaking funny you believe you succeeded in proving something.

:yaohappy:[/QUOTE]

I dunno how familiar you think you are with Elite level track & field but almost all the sprinters use steroids or PEDs in one way or another. Do you really think Shawn Crawford doesn't run any events between Olympic qualifiers to simply rest? He must have got his body to look like that via hard work & lots of Gatoraide huh?

International Track & Field is essentially 90s baseball & has been since the early 80s.

punpun = ****tard

So many butthurt guys. I'm still waiting for your concrete proof of what you are blaberring. ELse it's just libel.

[QUOTE=Punpun]So many butthurt guys. I'm still waiting for your concrete proof of what you are blaberring. ELse it's just libel.[/QUOTE]


What are you talking about?? Ben Johnson was busted for roids in the late 80's, and Marion Jones had to give back her gold medals and was fined until she was broke. Florence Griffith Joyner was always suspected cuz she went from average sprinter to top of the food chain in a heartbeat and became ripped as hell. Let's throw Lance Armstrong in there as well.

Are you this naive?? :hammerhead:

[QUOTE=Punpun]So many butthurt guys. I'm still waiting for your concrete proof of what you are blaberring. ELse it's just libel.[/QUOTE]


Here is a good read for you:

[url]http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/track_and_field/[/url]

Time to get your head out of the sand.

Libel. Libel everywhere. And that's a strawman too. As roids or not, the perf are better.

[QUOTE=Punpun]Libel. Libel everywhere. And that's a strawman too. As roids or not, the perf are better.[/QUOTE]


Read the article. It's not libel when the athletes are routinely failing drug tests. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Punpun]Libel. Libel everywhere. And that's a strawman too. As roids or not, the perf are better.[/QUOTE]


So libel, Justin Gatlin was banned for it.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/11/AR2010051103527.html[/url]

:coleman:

Meanwhile...here is what Bob Hayes had to deal with in the '64 Olympics...

[QUOTE] First, he won the 100m and broke the current World Record in the 100 m with a time of 10.06 seconds, [B]even though he was running in lane 1 which had, the day before, been used for the 10 km racewalk and this badly [COLOR="DarkRed"]chewed up the cinder track[/COLOR][/B]. [COLOR="DarkRed"]He also was running in borrowed spikes because one of his shoes had been kicked under the bed when he was playing with some friends and he didn't realize until he got there[/COLOR][/QUOTE]