Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]Just how it is. I've told you before, death by association. With a good number of fans not liking Miami at all, you associate with them, you get added on the list.
I love Bosh, a cool dude and would love him on my team. But being on Miami, he's constantly dogged and made fun of, a lot more than when he was in Toronto.[/QUOTE]
Bosh is so much more relevant today than he has every been in his life, combined. And even if Bosh would have chosen another team, say Houston or something like that, he'd still not have gotten half of the attention he's getting with Miami.
Nobody will hate on Ray. Maybe Celtics fans but thats it.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=BallsOut]A tremendous amount of hate. Just look at Shane Battier. Ray Allen has always been a high character guy, gets in to practice early, leaves late, puts up hundreds of shots each day. That spells Boston Celtics to me. Miami Heat and their leader, Lebron James are well reknowned for taking the easy way out. They'll brush off bad habits on him, thinking they can turn it on and off whenever they want. While these guys are dancing on the sideline during pregames, Ray is out 2 hours before hand getting shots up. It just doesn't feel like a good match at all.
Then you talk about his character. Here's a guy that was never selfish, arrogant or ever caught trash talking to any player. You don't put a guy like that on one of the most arrogant teams in the league. If Ray wants to prolong his career, not stress out at all the hate/backlash he would get, Boston is the right place to end it.
[B]As a long time Ray Allen fan, I can truly say I will no longer be a fan and will no longer refer to him as Jesus if he joins the Heat next season.[/B][/QUOTE]
Then you're not a fan but just a guy who hates the Heat more than he's a fan of Ray.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
Where are the people hating on Battier?
MAybe OKC fans
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
I'll respect him even more. :applause:
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Nash]Bosh is so much more relevant today than he has every been in his life, combined. And even if Bosh would have chosen another team, say Houston or something like that, he'd still not have gotten half of the attention he's getting with Miami.
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I'd disagree with the more relevant part. He was the sole thing making Toronto relevant, a proven gold medalist and all-star. So many teams really wanted him in summer 2010. He was, as they say, THE MAN of his franchise. True he's getting a lot more attention, but a LOT of that attention is negative.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
Speaking for myself personally, medium level heat lol. I don't see why he'd have so much loyalty to Boston after so many proposed trades didn't go down but I still can't get with jumping on the superstar bandwagon thing.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=HiphopRelated]Where are the people hating on Battier?
MAybe OKC fans[/QUOTE]
IN Ballsout and Tenchi Ryu, 2 notorious Heat haters, head.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Nash]Why do people expect him to be loyal to Boston? Dude has left 2 teams before. Its part of the game. And Miami is a great fit both socially and on the court.[/QUOTE]
Money talks. Boston can pay him way more than Miami.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]I'd disagree with the more relevant part. He was the sole thing making Toronto relevant, a proven gold medalist and all-star. So many teams really wanted him in summer 2010. He was, as they say, THE MAN. True he's getting a lot more attention, but a LOT of that attention is negative.[/QUOTE]
THE MAN!!? Ask Bosh if he wants to leave Miami to be the man at any team out there and he wouldn't. Why would he? He's living the rock star life right now.
And if you seriously think Bosh was more relevant with Toronto than with the Heat then I don't know if you're trolling me or not.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Heavincent]Money talks. Boston can pay him way more than Miami.[/QUOTE]
I absolutely agree with you on that.
Two reasons why I can't see this happening:
-money
-him going up against KG and Pierce in Lebron, Wade and Bosh's team.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Nash]IN Ballsout and Tenchi Ryu, 2 notorious Heat haters, head.[/QUOTE]
I dont' care for Battier one way or another, just keeping it real. And you're a fan of Miami, so of course you have no problem. Most non heat fans don't like him, or like the majority including myself, don't care one way or another.
But Ray is on a completely different playing field and a more valuable player legacy wise. Him joining miami will definitely have more polarizing results.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Heavincent]Money talks. Boston can pay him way more than Miami.[/QUOTE]
I think that the Miami Heat have been making deals under the table. Haslem and Miller both took about less than what they could get to sign with the Heat. I think the NBA should investigate the Miami Heat. It's probably what they're doing to Ray Allen right now.
There's no reason why he would turn down 6 mill for 2 seasons with Boston or the full MLE with Memphis for a measley 3 mill per season and all the hate/backlash to be with Miami.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=BallsOut]I think that the Miami Heat have been making deals under the table. Haslem and Miller both took about less than what they could get to sign with the Heat. I think the NBA should investigate the Miami Heat. It's probably what they're doing to Ray Allen right now.
There's no reason why he would turn down 6 mill for 2 seasons with Boston or the full MLE with Memphis for a measley 3 mill per season and all the hate/backlash to be with Miami.[/QUOTE]
Conspiracy theories.. :roll: Haters having a meltdown.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Nash]THE MAN!!? Ask Bosh if he wants to leave Miami to be the man at any team out there and he wouldn't. Why would he? He's living the rock star life right now. [/QUOTE]
Why is that relevant to conversation? Who cares what he's doing now, the point isn't whether he was happy or not, he was the MAN. Now, he's a third option, there is nothing to dispute about that.
[QUOTE=Nash]And if you seriously think Bosh was more relevant with Toronto than with the Heat then I don't know if you're trolling me or not.[/QUOTE]
Nobody said more, the relevancy seems equal to me. Its just louder since its more hate filled now.
Re: How Much Hate Will Ray Allen Receive if He Turns Down Boston and Joins Miami?
[QUOTE=Tenchi Ryu]I dont' care for Battier one way or another, just keeping it real. And you're a fan of Miami, so of course you have no problem. Most non heat fans don't like him, or like the majority including myself, don't care one way or another.
But Ray is on a completely different playing field and a more valuable player legacy wise. Him joining miami will definitely have more polarizing results.[/QUOTE]
Did you hate on Ray when he joined up with Garnett and Pierce to form a super team?