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[QUOTE=Doctor Rivers][URL="https://twitter.com/KP_Rivals/status/357517022839586816"]https://twitter.com/KP_Rivals/status/357517022839586816[/URL]
Typical Kobe stan[/QUOTE]
How the **** would he know who the closest to Jordan if he never watched Jordan...but he's right that kobe is the most similar recent player to jordan
[QUOTE=ThaRegul8r]He's 18 years old. He never even saw Jordan play.[/QUOTE]
there's something called video's..... And if he said "Kobe's the best player ever" you would be bashing him for not saying Jordon..... Idiot.
[QUOTE=longtime lurker]:oldlol: How did I know this clown would respond[/QUOTE]
You've been lurking here long enough to know. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=ThaRegul8r]He's 18 years old. He never even saw Jordan play.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Typical Kobe Stan
[QUOTE=Unbiased_one]How the **** would he know who the closest to Jordan if he never watched Jordan...but he's right that kobe is the most similar recent player to jordan[/QUOTE]
they had something called VHS even back when Jordan played. You might wanna look that up.
You dont get as good as Wiggins without knowing or seeing film of the greatest who has ever played your respective sport or activity. The same way an upcoming heavyweight boxer would watch film of Ali, Tyson, Foreman, Frazier, etc. People acting like its impossible in the Youtube era
[QUOTE=Doctor Rivers]lol i guess my sarcasm didn't come across well[/QUOTE]
It did. It's just that he's a bit slow
I like how that even though Wiggins was too young to have watched Jordan play out live and understand the time (what people were saying about Jordan in his prime, etc...) that he considers him the GOAT, but he's got the "well I've watched tape of him" card used by some posters on here.... who will then turn it around on other ISH posters on here and say that "it doesn't count" for posters on here who have watched Jordan of YouTube, VHS tapes, etc... because they are too young.
Talk about double standards on here when your actually a "name" or not.
[QUOTE=STATUTORY]they had something called VHS even back when Jordan played. You might wanna look that up.[/QUOTE]
If you don't live in the same time as a player, then you can't possibly understand how good they are...you have to understand the era. It's one reason I am loathe to make judgements on Russell, wilt and kaj.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I like how that even though Wiggins was too young to have watched Jordan play out live and understand the time (what people were saying about Jordan in his prime, etc...) that he considers him the GOAT, but he's got the "well I've watched tape of him" card used by some posters on here.... who will then turn it around on other ISH posters on here and say that "it doesn't count" for posters on here who have watched Jordan of YouTube, VHS tapes, etc... because they are too young.
Talk about double standards on here when your actually a "name" or not.[/QUOTE]
It's different for a soon to be #1 pick who is perfecting said craft and actually studying/taking context and sport history/shot clock situation/ on court demeanor/ defensive strategy into account, than a fat homer stan trying to win a Kobe/Lebron/Jordan argument.
Hasn't this thread been made like 100, 000, 000 times. Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan. How many times must we hear this?
[QUOTE=Tking714]It's different for a soon to be #1 pick who is perfecting said craft and actually studying/taking context and sport history/shot clock situation/ on court demeanor/ defensive strategy into account, than a fat homer stan trying to win a Kobe/Lebron/Jordan argument.[/QUOTE]
Outside of saying "studying the craft", what makes you say that a certain "homer" hasn't been studying the history of the game, basketball rules, situations, etc... ? Besides, it wasn't just them, but the younger generation coming up. I bet there are kids right now who were born in 2004 who will say Jordan is the best too right now and if they really want to be a great basketball player, their view will get held highly.
Magic Johnson is also a former #1 overall pick and he's been blasted on here for his "flip-flopping" and otherwise lukewarm basketball understanding.
It's good Wiggins has an opinion. Lot of people would agree with it. But I think he's saying what he's saying from what he's seen and heard, not that that's a bad thing. Who wouldn't want to emulate Jordan ? There's much tape out there on the Wilt's, Kareem's, Russell's, Magic's and Bird's... Jordan is usually accumulated as the best and he's probably seen a lot of Kobe Bryant and other greats. It's only natural he would view them as the best that he's seen/heard.
For me personally, I like to formulate an opinion with what I can gather (factual, little to no bias in an opinion from quotes, etc...). It could be an opinion just like Wiggins or different.
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Wiggins will be a bigger bust than Len Bias.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit Silkk.
[QUOTE=SilkkTheShocker]Kobe as Nas is a bad comparison. Nas' best album was his first one, Illmatic. Kobe wasn't even good enough to start for the Lakers when he came to LA. Plus who even talks about Nas anymore? Im sure there are way better comparisons.[/QUOTE]
Life is Good, the album Nas released 18 years into his career, sold 150k first week :facepalm :facepalm
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Outside of saying "studying the craft", what makes you say that a certain "homer" hasn't been studying the history of the game, basketball rules, situations, etc... ? Besides, it wasn't just them, but the younger generation coming up. I bet there are kids right now who were born in 2004 who will say Jordan is the best too right now and if they really want to be a great basketball player, their view will get held highly.
Magic Johnson is also a former #1 overall pick and he's been blasted on here for his "flip-flopping" and otherwise lukewarm basketball understanding.
It's good Wiggins has an opinion. Lot of people would agree with it. [B]But I think he's saying what he's saying from what he's seen and heard,[/B] not that that's a bad thing. Who wouldn't want to emulate Jordan ? There's much tape out there on the Wilt's, Kareem's, Russell's, Magic's and Bird's... Jordan is usually accumulated as the best and he's probably seen a lot of Kobe Bryant and other greats. It's only natural he would view them as the best that he's seen/heard.
For me personally, I like to formulate an opinion with what I can gather (factual, little to no bias in an opinion from quotes, etc...). It could be an opinion just like Wiggins or different.[/QUOTE]
I agree with everything especially the bolded. The difference between us and him is always going to be that he was successful in putting it into practice. Actions will always hold heavier. Opinions are opinions, but I like to believe that you don't get that good without copying the absolute greatest(which is subject to opinion); while taking into account that every other great has something just as valuable if not more valuable in their games to emulate.
I'm not gonna be too long winded here. Because the truth of the matter is. You can get a board of 50 experts, hall of famers, and extremely knowledgeable fans. Have them come to a decision and at the end of the day it will be "wrong" as long as one person thinks that. You put this argument on the path to becoming really meta lol.