The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism

[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]______ ism is alive and well everywhere I been....

- I lived in Japan and saw many signs " No Americans/Foreigners " allowed

- I got slapped in a grocery store in Hiroshima ( for being American I guess)

- Taiwan I almost got beat to death for making out with a Taiwanese chick in a Bar ( I guess it had a few Chinese Mafia cats who liked her)

- as a kid riding home on our bikes after ballin...occasionally getting called N____(hard R's)....( shit like that F's with kids anyway you look at it)

I would say the world is F'ed up beyond recognition....just try and maintain :confusedshrug[/QUOTE]

This. With all the messed up sh*t you can see in the news or on some websites that show you executions or stuff like that, you basically have to realize that we're more or less animals that (in our wealth western world) learned to behave more sophisticated as long as it's for personal gain. Without our modern standard of living keeping us calm, it's total madness all over again.

Most people won't admit it, but racism is a natural reaction. It's the first thing that comes to mind for many people. There's something I'm not used to? Must be dangerous. Our brains really aren't built for making much sense. So I'd say you have to force a lot of people into behaving in the "right" way, because they won't figure it out on their own. Political correctness is a huge load of bs.
Should someone be ashamed if he's disgusted by another skin color/sexuality/whatever? That's not the problem, it's natural. I think if you can accept this, it's easier to reflect and notice that this feeling is your own problem, so you can leave other people the f*ck alone. That's why I think it's important to not be politically correct. If someone is racist, he should be open about it so others can explain to him why it doesn't make sense.

I'm friends with an older guy that had a black mom and a white dad. You probably wouldn't be able to tell by looking at him, though. Every now and then we'll shoot the breeze on personal stuff, and he was telling me how he always [i]hated[/i] it how whenever the kids would go out to the park with their mom, the other parents just "[i]assumed[/i] that she was the maid taking the kids out to the park." I could tell that shit really hurt him, too. He was getting all misty eyed telling me the story.

Times have changed a lot since then, but it wasn't really that long ago.

But even to this day, he gets to hear what some white people think about black people. They don't realize he had a black mom and so they feel it's completely okay to be racist towards blacks around him.

My brother is dating a black girl. She's a cool chick. Smart, dresses classy, good sense of humor, etc. They went out to the beach on the West coast in Washington state. My bro had picked out a really nice restaurant to celebrate her birthday. The place was busy, so they waited for awhile after being seated by the hostess. The waitress completely snubbed them and they were left waiting for an hour. They had to request the hostess bring their soup. Eventually they were fed up and left.

Was the waitress being racist? I have a hard time believing she just [i]completely[/i] "forgot" about someone for an hour.

All I know is I've never been snubbed like that at a restaurant. And I know I've looked pretty suspect at times.

[QUOTE=Raymone]I have one question. When was the last time a black person was lynched in the United States?

If the worst thing we can find today are complaints about subtle glances or suggestions of racism, I'd say it hardly exists today on the level that it used to. Black people today like to use the racism card when they feel treated unfairly but that doesn't mean it's actually racism. Everybody gets treated unfairly (unless you're ultra rich). I've been pulled over for bogus reasons by a black cop. Didn't think it was racism.[/QUOTE]
1st world issues, this so called racism in USA is just subtle and not really violent or serious. It's obvious black people here haven't been anywhere else. Try living in Russia and encountering their skinhead gangs on the street that will jump you without giving a shit and beat the shit outta you or stab you. And they do that to not only black people but to anyone who isn't Russian. Rest of the world is much more dangerous and aggressive with their racism, but oh God forbid you are profiled or your feelings are hurt it's the worst thing ever. You guys have no idea how much better America is when it comes to racism compared to most of the world. But people will find anything to bitch about these days, no matter how minor.

[QUOTE=ALBballer]Well racism does exist but so do other forms of discriminations. The problem is there cant be any honest discussion on the subject and most white people prefer to ignore the elephant in the room. Instead there is a PC world with laws set to solve racism but neither fix the issue.

I can find all sorts of daily situations where I think I have been discriminated against. I had a gas store owner lcok the doors on me and ask me to return the stolen goods although i didnt have anything. I had a cop ask to search my bag and made a comment like oh you just have books in there. I have a ton more. If i was black i would have attributed it to racism.[/QUOTE]

What do you think you were discriminated against for?

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]Are you sure them being black has anything at all to do with the dirty looks?

Not pointing fingers here, but many blacks suffer from turning things into a race issue that simply was not a race issue...[/QUOTE]

I would say this probably explains [I]some[/I] parts of it. Not to dismiss her, but in the same way a lot of feminists see and explain every social interaction through the lens of patriarchy, some black (or other racial minority groups) people will do the same with racism.

[QUOTE=Graviton]1st world issues, this so called racism in USA is just subtle and not really violent or serious. It's obvious black people here haven't been anywhere else. Try living in Russia and encountering their skinhead gangs on the street that will jump you without giving a shit and beat the shit outta you or stab you. And they do that to not only black people but to anyone who isn't Russian. Rest of the world is much more dangerous and aggressive with their racism, but oh God forbid you are profiled or your feelings are hurt it's the worst thing ever. You guys have no idea how much better America is when it comes to racism compared to most of the world. But people will find anything to bitch about these days, no matter how minor.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree.

If people think racism against blacks in the U.S. today is a 5 out of 10, then it's easily a 15 out of 10 in the rest of the world. With actions too, not just words that get panties in a bunch.

[QUOTE=Raymone]I completely agree.

If people think racism against blacks in the U.S. today is a 5 out of 10, then it's easily a 15 out of 10 in the rest of the world. With actions too, not just words that get panties in a bunch.[/QUOTE]
If they feel it's that bad they can always move somewhere else, try living in nations with no laws to protect you from actual violent racists.

today's 'racism' it is more of just 'classism' where there might be discrimination based upon what whites or others think someone's background is and not because people think there is something inherently wrong or different with any human race, where I do very much think that was the case during the slave days, back then I think many whites (as well as asians and other races) literally thought blacks were inferior human beings.

If certain white people are scared of blacks or won't hire a black employee over a white or just treat blacks differently in general it is because they are basing it off the odds that you are from a poor neighborhood, were around drug dealers, etc. The moment white people see a black person act 'white' so to speak, they are not threatened in the least. Not the white people I know anyway.

Hip Hop culture isn't doing the black community any favors with how blacks are perceived by whites either...

Anyway, today it is just all based around money now, and it the center of it is the fact that whites currently hold more money than blacks and whites will continue to pass their wealth down to their children not because they are white but because they are family. Black families need to create their own wealth, it might be harder for blacks to create wealth than whites but life isn't fair.

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[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]Are you sure them being black has anything at all to do with the dirty looks?

Not pointing fingers here, but many blacks suffer from turning things into a race issue that simply was not a race issue...[/QUOTE]

Even if a specific look wasn't due to a race issue, the fact that people still question if that is why they are getting a look shows that there is a race issue. Simply questioning how you are perceived based on race shows that racism still exists.

[QUOTE=Raymone]I have one question. When was the last time a black person was lynched in the United States?

If the worst thing we can find today are complaints about subtle glances or suggestions of racism, I'd say it hardly exists today on the level that it used to. Black people today like to use the racism card when they feel treated unfairly but that doesn't mean it's actually racism. Everybody gets treated unfairly (unless you're ultra rich). I've been pulled over for bogus reasons by a black cop. Didn't think it was racism.[/QUOTE]

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But even to this day, he gets to hear what some white people think about black people. They don't realize he had a black mom and so they feel it's completely okay to be racist towards blacks around him.
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Because I'm white I hear people say shit about black people, and it offends the shit out of me. I can only imagine if I had experienced discrimination first hand as a black person and then heard that shit.

Even when people aren't meant to be hurtful like when telling racist jokes, it says something that they often choose to do so when they aren't with their black friends. A semi-friend of mine a couple weeks ago told a joke and I reminded him that my gf is black right after he told it. He then got very worried when I told him I was going to tell her the joke and inform her that he was the one who said it. Admittedly, I knew she would laugh and was f*cking with him intentionally to make him worried because he doesn't really know her or her sense of humor.

[QUOTE=Myth]Simply questioning how you are perceived based on race shows that racism still exists.[/QUOTE]

Or social conditioning for perceiving racism exists. I'd hazard a guess and say more people are told the N-word is a bad word than experience having the N-word used against them. Their negative reaction to the word stems from the perception of racism rather than the experience of racism.

How much is in-group conditioning constructing the beliefs and perceptions about out-groups?

I could be wrong on that one though, more of a passing thought.

who gives a fck about what people "say" or "dirty looks" ?

I've had blacks mean mug me plenty of times and I never care about it enough to throw out "OMG he hates me because I'm white!"

I've heard blacks talk ill of white people, even my own black friends...never gave a fck really

sticks and stones...


I mean really if you're going to complain about racism then let be about not getting a job or something that actually means something.

[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]Are you sure them being black has anything at all to do with the dirty looks?

Not pointing fingers here, but many blacks suffer from turning things into a race issue that simply was not a race issue...[/QUOTE]

I didnt say the looks are due racism... Im relating it to fact that I dont see it, so it doesnt register in my mind..

Im trying to see where people who pretend racism doesnt exist are coming from.. Because I dont see it.. I might downplay it bit more than she likes..

[QUOTE=Myth]:facepalm[/QUOTE]

that dude is a troll who rivals my shadow.. ignore him.. he's probably an alt..