Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=Flash31]what Best Time period and rivalry when NWO was around in WWE for Austin
was Booker T
Austin vs Booker T in a supermarket,come on that was hilarious[/QUOTE]
I was going to bring up Booker/Austin in supermarket because that was one of the greatest moments too. Booker wasn't a big name in WWF at the time, even though he was great in WCW.
I think Austin looked too strong in that fight but it was great nonetheless. Booker was selling and crying in the market.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=Immortal Bum]i'm not gonna get too much into it because i've had this debate too many times already, but how anyone can see Shawn Michaels as the GOAT is beyond me. He had a very short prime in the 90s before he had to go away to get his life together (his back was only half the reason) where he was incredible in every way, but the dude who return in 2002 wasn't even a shadow of the man there was before. His character has remained stale through his entire return; none of his angles were any good because he did the same routine over and over so most of his feuds were about friendship or him being someone's idol. shit was awful. but because that WWE hype machine went to work, you'll surely believe HBK is the GOAT. But about 95% of the dude's reputation is based on WWE having always hyped the hell out of him, when he really was only that great for maybe two years? maybe?[/QUOTE]
That really tells you how good HBK was. Even with the shitty angles you mentioned and I agree they were, he was still able to put a 5 star match.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=Immortal Bum]i'm not gonna get too much into it because i've had this debate too many times already, but how anyone can see Shawn Michaels as the GOAT is beyond me. He had a very short prime in the 90s before he had to go away to get his life together (his back was only half the reason) where he was incredible in every way, but the dude who return in 2002 wasn't even a shadow of the man there was before. His character has remained stale through his entire return; none of his angles were any good because he did the same routine over and over so most of his feuds were about friendship or him being someone's idol. shit was awful. but because that WWE hype machine went to work, you'll surely believe HBK is the GOAT. But about 95% of the dude's reputation is based on WWE having always hyped the hell out of him, when he really was only that great for maybe two years? maybe?[/QUOTE]
man,what!!?
HBK vs Triple H was a hell of a rivalry
Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels at WM were two of the goat in history.
The good rivalry with Jericho.
Amzing matches at Wm almost every single year.The DX reunion in 2006,
the matches he had against Kurt Angle,the hour long classic against Cena.
The Shelton Benjamin match.
Come on.
If you think Shawn Michaels was only great for two years,especially post 2002,you don't know wrestling or WWE period.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
he was great for two years in the 90s, otherwise he's terribly glorified. a slouch, no way, he's a talent indeed, but drastically overrated. The Undertaker almost feels underrated the way people rave about HBK. Hell, if i was starting a company i'd take prime Triple H (my time) over that prime HBK of the 90s.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
Angle/Shawn was easily 5 star.
Jericho/HBK was 4.5 star.
HHH/HBK...I have my reasons because I don't like HHH at all. Maybe why I consider him a great heel. Hate that guy.
HBK/Taker was a good match. I prefer their Hell in a Cell decades ago...still 5 star.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=Immortal Bum]he was great for two years in the 90s, otherwise he's terribly glorified. a slouch, no way, he's a talent indeed, but drastically overrated. The Undertaker almost feels underrated the way people rave about HBK. Hell, if i was starting a company i'd take prime Triple H (my time) over that prime HBK of the 90s.[/QUOTE]
We're just going to disagree because HBK was the man.
Easily the best.
He use to put PPV type matches on free television.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=9erempiree]I was going to bring up Booker/Austin in supermarket because that was one of the greatest moments too. Booker wasn't a big name in WWF at the time, even though he was great in WCW.
I think Austin looked too strong in that fight but it was great nonetheless. Booker was selling and crying in the market.[/QUOTE]
he was still
the 5-time,5-time,5-time,5-time,5-time WCW Champion
Now Can you dig that.....SUCKKAAA
Booker T was good in 01-04,
He really picked it up with King Bookah
Strong,it was AUSTIN,
Subtlety and a weakness weren't in Austin's or WWE's thought process about him
He stunned the whole roster at one show almost,
the zamboni,beer truck,hospital with McMahon,Nothing about Austin was a subtle or weak point
But next to HBK kicking STAN in the Face,Mcmahons in Church,and Austin dumping Triple H who was in a car with a forklift only for Triple H to show up the next week with a Big a$$ bandaid on his forehead and continue on like nothing much happened,that was one of the funniest,most hilarious moments.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=9erempiree]Angle/Shawn was easily 5 star.
Jericho/HBK was 4.5 star.
HHH/HBK...I have my reasons because I don't like HHH at all. Maybe why I consider him a great heel. Hate that guy.
HBK/Taker was a good match. I prefer their Hell in a Cell decades ago...still 5 star.[/QUOTE]
It's what's BEST FOR BUSINESS.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=Immortal Bum]he was great for two years in the 90s, otherwise he's terribly glorified. a slouch, no way, he's a talent indeed, but drastically overrated. The Undertaker almost feels underrated the way people rave about HBK. Hell, if i was starting a company i'd take prime Triple H (my time) over that prime HBK of the 90s.[/QUOTE]
HBK was a better worker post 2002 than in the 90s.
Triple H though was one of the GOAT heels ever and he could tell a story up there with the best.
The Undertaker has been putting on show stealing WM matches since HBK1.Shows up once every year at WM,has the best match and some of the goat matches.He still has it and is constantly reinventing himself.
I mean
HBK-Taker 1
HBK-Taker-2
HHH-Taker
HHH-Taker with HBK as special guet ref Hell in a Cell
CM Punk
and HBK post 2002 was putting on classics
vs Jericho
vs Angle
vs Ric Flair
vs Undertaker
vs Undertaker 2
He left with probably the goat match anybody would retire with,
Im still waiting and anticipating as is everybody else,the dream match though
CENA vs Undertaker at WM
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
97-99
Best years of wrestling. Period.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=Immortal Bum]he was great for two years in the 90s, otherwise he's terribly glorified. a slouch, no way, he's a talent indeed, but drastically overrated. The Undertaker almost feels underrated the way people rave about HBK. Hell, if i was starting a company i'd take prime Triple H (my time) over that prime HBK of the 90s.[/QUOTE]
The fact that you called HBK a slouch in the ring shows you don't know what you're talking about.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
My favorite memories from wrestling:
Stone cold driving the beer truck into the arena spraying the rock and Vince
Stone cold beating Vince in the hospital
The reign of DX
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
1993-2002 were the best years of wrestling. The ruthless aggression era were also solid.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=kaiteng]In that era:
AJPW > WCW > WWF > ECW > everybody else[/QUOTE]
Invert that homie. Misawa and Kobashi are great and all, but c'mon no storylines, Jun Akiyama is pretty meh... I don't get all the hype about AJ in the late 90's.
Re: The era of the NWO on WCW Nitro/Thunder? Most entertaining era in wrestling ever?
[QUOTE=Flash31]Yeah they did,back in the 70s,early 80s
Four Horsemen were legendary
All over NWA and AWA,even early WCW-Jim Crockett Promotions
and WcW
come on
you had the 16 time Wooo World Heavyweight Champion Ric Flair
Ole and Arn Anderson,Tully Blanchard,James Dillon
all those legendary battles with Dusty Rhodes,Harley Race,Steamboat,
Road Warriors,Greg Valentine,Magnum TA
They were the dominating,rebel,do whatever they wanted group before NWO and DX,Evolution was even an idea
The NWO were great,one of all time goat groups(the original),not what it became and they did set WCW and Nitro on fire
but they also burned both to the ground
NWO were all time great but
the 4 Horsemen were simply put Better[/QUOTE]
[B]When I saw era ever and they talk about post '95 stuff like wrestling didnt exist before. So the original post should say this generation or young generation.
Nothing will ever compare to Hulkemania though.
Next definitely the 4 Horseman which was the original
I think NWO was the most shocking though. I wont lie I was a young adult and I purchased NWO and Wolfpac paraphernalia. I think DX was 3rd because they were bubble gum boy band type stuff.
Pure entertainment Stone Cold and then Rock era was the funniest.
Any match Bret Hart was involved in was instant classic. Greatest wrestler to ever grace the mat. Bob backlund and Bruno. NWA/AWA was the bloodiest matches. The WWF tried to emulate it to some extent. Flash you know wrestling for real!:bowdown:
I remember going to matches when it was best 2 out of 3 falls when guys would have to wrestle back to back to back.
Props to Kaiteng and HarryHarryCallahan for knowing AJPW. It was more about wrestling than anything else.
HBK found his place late in his career.[/B]