Great work as always CavFTW!!! I think the full repertoire is captured here. All we need to experience now is the persistence to the hoop and game continuity.
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Great work as always CavFTW!!! I think the full repertoire is captured here. All we need to experience now is the persistence to the hoop and game continuity.
19 players not named Wilt Chamberlain have scored 60 or more points in NBA history, a combined 30 times.
Wilt Chamberlain scored 60 or more points 32 times. More than anyone else, [I]combined[/I].
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That move at 2:58 was nice. :applause:
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[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Bump for Laz[/QUOTE]
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I'm sure this is the most extensive collection of Wilt's scoring skills available. As always, just a brilliant video.
Having said that,...Psileas hit the nail on the head. 1.5% of his baskets made in his NBA career. And aside from the '62 ASG footage (when Chamberlain scored 42 points, grabbed 24 rebounds, and shot 17-23 from the field), there is probably little footage, if any, from his monumental games. I just can't imagine what spectacular footage is missing.
In your Wilt collection, you have Chamberlain blocking shots with his fingertips just narrowly below the top of the backboard. Even late in his career, you have a block in which he is again close to the top. I just have to believe that Wilt was probably making even more spectacular blocks, dunks, passes, and shots, in the other 98% of footage that is missing in his career.
And while this video is just sensational...the real shame is that it is only a tip of the iceberg...
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I'm sure this is the most extensive collection of Wilt's scoring skills available. As always, just a brilliant video.
Having said that,...Psileas hit the nail on the head. 1.5% of his baskets made in his NBA career. And aside from the '62 ASG footage (when Chamberlain scored 42 points, grabbed 24 rebounds, and shot 17-23 from the field), there is probably little footage, if any, from his monumental games. I just can't imagine what spectacular footage is missing.
In your Wilt collection, you have Chamberlain blocking shots with his fingertips just narrowly below the top of the backboard. Even late in his career, you have a block in which he is again close to the top. I just have to believe that Wilt was probably making even more spectacular blocks, dunks, passes, and shots, in the other 98% of footage that is missing in his career.
And while this video is just sensational...the real shame is that it is only a tip of the iceberg...[/QUOTE]
I will do a 'scoring skills' video at some point, incorporating moves captured on film from his entire career not just what is shown in this video.
There are moves that he did that are missing in the 60-68 window being that it is such a small sample size.
[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]:applause: :applause: :applause:
I'm sure this is the most extensive collection of Wilt's scoring skills available. As always, just a brilliant video.
Having said that,...Psileas hit the nail on the head. 1.5% of his baskets made in his NBA career. And aside from the '62 ASG footage (when Chamberlain scored 42 points, grabbed 24 rebounds, and shot 17-23 from the field), there is probably little footage, if any, from his monumental games. I just can't imagine what spectacular footage is missing.
In your Wilt collection, you have Chamberlain blocking shots with his fingertips just narrowly below the top of the backboard. Even late in his career, you have a block in which he is again close to the top. I just have to believe that Wilt was probably making even more spectacular blocks, dunks, passes, and shots, in the other 98% of footage that is missing in his career.
And while this video is just sensational...the real shame is that it is only a tip of the iceberg...[/QUOTE]
This covered 1.5% that I mentioned, though an impressive percentage for a scorer of Wilt's level, still doesn't do him justice, since we can see that lots of his plays are essentially too short to fully evaluate (e.g, some flashes of plays that only last like 1 second each) and there is a good number of ASG (=basically meaningless) baskets as well (although they still show glimpses of his skill). If Cavs had the luxury (and time) to have a more detailed version of the afore mentioned plays, then this "1.5%" would be more meaningful.
And this would still leave out his other highlights (assists, defense/blocks, even some rebounds), which may be literally at least as many as his baskets.
[QUOTE=Psileas]This covered 1.5% that I mentioned, though an impressive percentage for a scorer of Wilt's level, still doesn't do him justice, since we can see that lots of his plays are essentially too short to fully evaluate (e.g, some flashes of plays that only last like 1 second each) and there is a good number of ASG (=basically meaningless) baskets as well (although they still show glimpses of his skill). If Cavs had the luxury (and time) to have a more detailed version of the afore mentioned plays, then this "1.5%" would be more meaningful.
And this would still leave out his other highlights (assists, defense/blocks, even some rebounds), which may be literally at least as many as his baskets.[/QUOTE]
It's a downright shame that, other than the '62 ASG (and even that is not in it's entirety), that we have no full game footage of even one of his 271 40+ point games.
[QUOTE=fpliii]Do you want to start a thread about this on the PC board? Now that this video is out with so much footage, I think we can get some decent breakdowns.
BTW CavsFTW/PHILA and whoever else, when would you guys say Wilt's prime ended? With the injury in 69-70 (from all accounts he was still in his prime in 68-69, but fitting with Baylor/vBK presented problems)?[/QUOTE]
His prime ended with his knee injury IMO, you are right 68-69 would/should still be it but he had problems in vBK's system. That was the season a writer said he "couldn't" score any more and he put up back to back 60 point games just to show he still could. He was leading the league in scoring in 1970 AGAIN just prior to his knee injury. From there on out due to age, coaching, maybe lateral quickness after the knee repair, also conscious choice on what to focus on and a myriad of whatever other reasons he wasn't the same dominant scorer. I also think after 67 when he 'retired' that fade-away that season he lost some of his touch with it through attrition. But he was still very very dominant, like MVP caliber dominant it just wasn't being reflected with "points per game" anymore. He left the game way earlier than he would have needed too after the ABA lawsuit.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]His prime ended with his knee injury IMO, you are right 68-69 would/should still be it but he had problems in vBK's system. That was the season a writer said he "couldn't" score any more and he put up back to back 60 point games just to show he still could. He was leading the league in scoring in 1970 AGAIN just prior to his knee injury. From there on out due to age, coaching, maybe lateral quickness after the knee repair, also conscious choice on what to focus on and a myriad of whatever other reasons he wasn't the same dominant scorer. I also think after 67 when he 'retired' that fade-away that season he lost some of his touch with it through attrition. But he was still very very dominant, like MVP caliber dominant it just wasn't being reflected with "points per game" anymore. He left the game way earlier than he would have needed too after the ABA lawsuit.[/QUOTE]
What is interesting, is that Chamberlain had arguably the worst season of his career, following the season in which he blew out his knee, in 70-71. And his post-season that year was also arguably the worst of his career (although you could make an argument for 68-69.) His rebounding and FG%'s were exceptionally low for him, in both the regular season, and the playoffs.
Still, he battled a PEAK Kareem in five regular season, and five post-season H2H's, and statistically outplayed him. In the WORST season of his career.
Oh, and here were his numbers that year...
20.7 ppg, 18.2 rpg, 4.3 apg, and on a .545 FG%.
[QUOTE=fpliii]Watch the ball physics.
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I'm not a Wilt guy, but that ******ry should be a bannable offense.[/QUOTE]
He used to go by the alias of Shaqpopcorn34 on Youtube, most Youtube channels have banned him. He was a basketcase for Shaq vs Wilt arguments there trying to bait damn near everyone into an endless argument. Don't try to show him footage, or examples of Wilt doing things Shaq cannot do as he won't watch them, just like he didn't really acknowledge any of the things Wilt was dong that Shaq never did in the video in the OP. All he does is use his recycled clips of Shaq dunking on someone or spinning or going coast to coast or w/e and says 'Wilt can't do that!'. Even if you show him an example of Wilt doing that, or doing something similar or just as if not more impressive. He's a troll. And it looks like he's taken his talents to ISH.
Fpliii and Phila, you guys are on realgm
Explain what you know about "Fatal9" and his agenda against Wilt to me.
[B]:applause: Always coming through with the rare highlights. A bit too sped up though, I prefer to watch on "normal" speed.
Wilt was such a monster :bowdown: Freak athlete with lots of skill (and preferred to use it).[/B]
[quote]Fpliii and Phila, you guys are on realgm
Explain what you know about "Fatal9" and his agenda against Wilt to me.[/quote]
I don't know. Actually it began on this forum, he has even stated that Bynum>Wilt as a scorer.
[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6122175&postcount=37"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6122175&postcount=37[/URL]
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