Patrick Beverley is NOT a good defender

[QUOTE=Euroleague]Well I don't think punks like him should be in the league. George Karl said something to the effect of, "there are just some kinds of guys that we should not have in the league."

He's one of those kinds of guys.

Morey and Rockets fans are glorifying this kind of guy. He's going to seriously injure someone. He's nothing more than a 3rd string level player that is getting playing time because he goes out there with the intent of trying to disrupt the other team and trying to injure other players.

And the coach, GM and fans of the Rockets are approving and even seem to be egging him on.

[B]And clearly this is the reason Morey signed him in the first place, as there were dozens of better point guards than him in Europe. But he was known as the dirtiest player in Europe....no real point guard skills even....but will go out there and try to punk someone...
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That was clearly why Morey even signed him in the first place and insisted McHale play the guy, even though he can't even pass the ball.

That kind of stuff should not be allowed in the league.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I completely agree. I think it is one thing to have toughness and tenacity on the defensive end that changes the culture of the team but Beverly is just flat out dirty. The shit he did to Westbrook last week where he tried to hurt him again when OKC called a timeout was suspension worthy simply because of the audacity of it.

A guy that is only in the league because he plays in a way that increases the chance of others getting injured is not someone I'm interesting in watching. I hope they meet OKC in the playoffs and Westbrook ****ing tortures him.

[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]Yeah, I completely agree. I think it is one thing to have toughness and tenacity on the defensive end that changes the culture of the team but Beverly is just flat out dirty. The shit he did to Westbrook last week where he tried to hurt him again when OKC called a timeout was suspension worthy simply because of the audacity of it.

A guy that is only in the league because he plays in a way that increases the chance of others getting injured is not someone I'm interesting in watching. I hope they meet OKC in the playoffs and Westbrook ****ing tortures him.[/QUOTE]
and this guy is getting 35 minutes a game.:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]Yeah, I completely agree. I think it is one thing to have toughness and tenacity on the defensive end that changes the culture of the team but Beverly is just flat out dirty. The shit he did to Westbrook last week where he tried to hurt him again when OKC called a timeout was suspension worthy simply because of the audacity of it.

A guy that is only in the league because he plays in a way that increases the chance of others getting injured is not someone I'm interesting in watching. I hope they meet OKC in the playoffs and Westbrook ****ing tortures him.[/QUOTE]

I don't think Beverley tries to actually hurt anyone and he definitely wasn't trying to hurt Westbrook the other night.

But he WAS trying to get in his head and that timeout play WAS on purpose.

I just don't like players like that. I mean, it's one thing if you're Rodman or Artest and you're producing buckets and/or rebounds, but when you're a thug and your statline ends up being 2pts, 3 rbs, 0 assts...just shut the **** up and play the game. I'm not saying that's Beverley, but if keeps up the shit he pulled against OKC, he WILL become that kind of player.

[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]and this guy is getting 35 minutes a game.:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:[/QUOTE]

Yeah...ridiculous the amount of burn this guy gets when he produces so little.

Did you read that article on BR where Harden admitted that Beverley's "play" against OKC distracted the team?

Hopefully, that gets back to Beverley, but Beverley claims he doesn't read the news or media...so whatever.

[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]I don't think Beverley tries to actually hurt anyone and he definitely wasn't trying to hurt Westbrook the other night.

But he WAS trying to get in his head and that timeout play WAS on purpose.

I just don't like players like that. I mean, it's one thing if you're Rodman or Artest and you're producing buckets and/or rebounds, but when you're a thug and your statline ends up being 2pts, 3 rbs, 0 assts...just shut the **** up and play the game. I'm not saying that's Beverley, but if keeps up the shit he pulled against OKC, he WILL become that kind of player.[/QUOTE]

He might not be trying to hurt people. But he is going to play like an asshole and his attitude is "If he gets hurt then that's even better." If I was a current player, I would give him a Karl Malone elbow like Isiah got.

[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]Yeah...ridiculous the amount of burn this guy gets when he produces so little.

Did you read that article on BR where Harden admitted that Beverley's "play" against OKC distracted the team?

Hopefully, that gets back to Beverley, but Beverley claims he doesn't read the news or media...so whatever.[/QUOTE]
Im pretty sure Beverley cant even read.
He actually called himself a defensive superstar the other week.
the delusion McFail planted in this idiots head know no limits:roll: :roll:

[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]I don't think Beverley tries to actually hurt anyone and he definitely wasn't trying to hurt Westbrook the other night.

But he WAS trying to get in his head and that timeout play WAS on purpose.

I just don't like players like that. I mean, it's one thing if you're Rodman or Artest and you're producing buckets and/or rebounds, but when you're a thug and your statline ends up being 2pts, 3 rbs, 0 assts...just shut the **** up and play the game. I'm not saying that's Beverley, but if keeps up the shit he pulled against OKC, he WILL become that kind of player.[/QUOTE]

He was somehow always just nearly injuring or almost injuring guys all the time in Europe on these "accident" plays and the SAME thing ever since he came to the NBA.

How many freaking times does this have to happen before fans stop pretending?

This guy is the dirtiest player in a LONG time. It's like he's trying to be remembered as the dirtiest player ever.

The point is, at some point, someone is going to get seriously hurt, and this psychopath isn't even going to care.

There is no place for guys like this in the NBA or any other league for that matter.

[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]He might not be trying to hurt people. But he is going to play like an asshole and his attitude is "If he gets hurt then that's even better." If I was a current player, I would give him a Karl Malone elbow like Isiah got.[/QUOTE]

Agreed...I think it's just a matter of time before someone retaliates against him.

He really seems to have embraced his role, though...but I guess he knows that it's his one ticket to a lasting career.

I just can't imagine any other team, besides the Rockets, that would START the guy. He seems PERFECT as the energy guy off the bench to spell the starting PG.

Westbrook 6/17 5 TOs
Lillard 7/13 7 TOs
Hill 2/5 1 TO

Not including the Bulls game. That was an anomaly, they looked tired after the past two weeks and everyone played poorly.

But other than that, hes done pretty well against other pretty good point guards. Lillard was even complaining about him. You have guys complaining about you in SI, then you're doing something right.

Not saying hes the best defender, but he disrupts the other teams offense. Thats his only job. Disrupt the offense.

[QUOTE=Euroleague]He was somehow always just injuring or almost injuring guys all the time in Europe on these "accident" plays and the SAME thing ever since he came to the NBA.

How many freaking times does this have to happen before fans stop pretending?

This guy is the dirtiest player in a LONG time. It's like he's trying to be remembered as the dirtiest player ever.

The point is, at some point, someone is going to get seriously hurt, and this psychopath isn't even going to care.

There is no place for guys like this in the NBA or any other league for that matter.[/QUOTE]
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what he did to westbrook the other night was shameful.
there you denied a guy of a possible finals appearance last playoffs and what do you do?? trying to go at him again after he called a timeout, the exact same thing that got him injured last year:wtf: :wtf: :biggums: :coleman:

[QUOTE=UK2K]Westbrook 6/17 5 TOs
Lillard 7/13 7 TOs
Hill 2/5 1 TO

Not including the Bulls game. That was an anomaly, they looked tired after the past two weeks and everyone played poorly.

But other than that, hes done pretty well against other pretty good point guards. Lillard was even complaining about him. You have guys complaining about you in SI, then you're doing something right.

Not saying hes the best defender, but he disrupts the other teams offense. Thats his only job. Disrupt the offense.[/QUOTE]
LOL at bringing up Lillard who owned his skinny ass till beverley flopped him out of the game.
why dont you do it like that.
Bev vs Lillard: 12 points vs 21 points before fouling out on a flop
Bev vs Westbrook: 2 points vs 24 points and Westbrook only had bad percentage because Failerley fouled him twice on 3 point attempts.
Houston fans just overrate the shit out of him because they follow their media like sheep

[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]Agreed...I think it's just a matter of time before someone retaliates against him.

He really seems to have embraced his role, though...but I guess he knows that it's his one ticket to a lasting career.

I just can't imagine any other team, besides the Rockets, that would START the guy. He seems PERFECT as the energy guy off the bench to spell the starting PG.[/QUOTE]

Which was my point that it seems that Daryl Morey purposely signed him specifically to do this. It looks obvious. He was known as the dirtiest player in Europe. There were many many better point guards in Europe than him.

The Rockets GREATLY overpaid for him. He does not even have basic point guard skills other than dribbling. I mean he can't even pass or play make.

Then he comes in to the team and immediately plays mid season and plays ever since then, even if he does not produce, he plays in a team where the GM is obsessed with all the production stats.

It looks like it could not be any more clear that Morey was hiring a thug and that Beverley seemingly knew that was what he was being hired for.

And to make it worse, he's not even being fined or suspended for all this stuff he's doing.

I am sure also that when the first serious injury happens it will just all be an accident no matter how it looks. And Morey and Beverley will never be held accountable for anything.

It's definite psychopathic behavior though.

[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]this
what he did to westbrook the other night was shameful.
there you denied a guy of a possible finals appearance last playoffs and what do you do?? trying to go at him again after he called a timeout, the exact same thing that got him injured last year:wtf: :wtf: :biggums: :coleman:[/QUOTE]

That WAS a punk move, and I lost some respect for Beverley because of it.

Look...I know he wasn't TRYING to hurt Westbrook on that play...he kinda just grabbed him. But he was trying to say, "Hey...remember when I injured your knee?" as to remind him...and that is pretty damn low.

If it was me, I'd have walked up to Westbrook before the game and apologized, offered a hand, whatever. Not to be a *****, but c'mon...you TOOK AWAY the guy's playoffs and hope for a ring. That's some HUGE shit...show a little respect, you know? These guys are all playing the same game...the game they love.

But, I'm also not scraping by, hoping I don't get cut and trying to find a way to belong in the league.

If Lin was in the perfect place/time for Linsanity, Beverley was in the perfect place/time for Bevsanity (or whatever).

Beverley was going to start in front of Lin (ANYONE was going to) regardless of his reputation as a thug (which is something he really wasn't known for until this season). McHale just doesn't want Lin starting, period. If Tony Douglas was on the team, he'd be starting in front of Lin.

No other team in the NBA starts Beverley. None. And especially not a high ranked team like Houston. I doubt Morey wanted his 25 million dollar guy riding the bench so I imagine McHale and Morey had to compromise in SOME way.

[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]LOL at bringing up Lillard who owned his skinny ass till beverley flopped him out of the game.
why dont you do it like that.
Bev vs Lillard: 12 points vs 21 points before fouling out on a flop
Bev vs Westbrook: 2 points vs 24 points and Westbrook only had bad percentage because Failerley fouled him twice on 3 point attempts.
Houston fans just overrate the shit out of him because they follow their media like sheep[/QUOTE]
The fact your comparing scoring totals with Lillard and Westbrook in a thread YOU created downplaying BeverD's defense tells me....
A) You lost the argument already
B) This isnt about BeverD's defense at all
C) Youre on a one man crusade to justify Lin to the world

Again, Lin is garbo. He'd be good for Milwaukee or the Jazz, but not on a team where you have two top 3 players at their position. BeverD has played ONE full season in the NBA so far. ONE.

I hope Lin gets traded just so I dont have to see you post anymore about him not getting PT over someone who meshes with the team better. Go to ClutchFans, there is a thread using statistical analysis that shows BeverD fits in better.

Go away.