Nikola Tesla Appreciation Thread

[QUOTE=KevinNYC]:biggums:


Yeah, Tesla conceptualized the idea of something that other people including Alexander Graham Bell had already built working versions of. Tesla (who worked for Edison before Fessenden, note that first "e") didn't believe in radio waves and thought Hertz was all wrong. Marconi gets the credit because he was doing long distance radio transmissions by 1895 and communicated across the English channel by 1899. Fessenden gets the credit because he did audio transmissions by 1900. Others were involved too. They get the credit because they got the stuff to work and solved some of the major technical hurdles. Things that Tesla never did.

Tesla did plenty of great things, but he also got some things wrong. You have moved from "invented" to "conceptualized." This is a nice way of saying he had a habit of bullshitting about what he could and then coming up short in the practical terms.

But yeah, planes that fly by atmospheric electricity and weather changing super death ray weapons would be cool. But you also think that Edison's lightbulb is the only one of his inventions we still use.[/QUOTE]

1. Tesla actually advocated the use of radio waves to detect German U-boats, which is known as radar today. Although Emile Girardeu is the inventor of the first radar instrument, he followed the exact principles Tesla laid out.

2. A conceptualization is an idea, a patent, a blue print, etc. His works in robotics and the electric motor is only beginning to find it's fruition today due to the complexity of the designs, so he's not exactly bullsh*tting out of his a*s: he's got hundreds of legit patents that are responsible for a lot of the technological advances we are seeing today.

3. What did Tesla get wrong?

4. Marconi, the father of radio, actually infringed on Tesla's patent. Tesla was the first to send a letter "s" 2,000 miles through morse code. The courts agreed and Tesla eventually won the suit years after his death.

[QUOTE=KevinNYC]:biggums:


Things that Tesla never did.

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If I patented an idea and others looked at my work and used the same principles I laid out, it is still my idea. Marconi got credit for his work; Rontgen got credit for his work; Girardeu got credit for his work; and so many others .. hell the government is the "father" of the internet .. how the f*ck did that happen? When has the government ever invented anything worth a sh*t? Ya they ransacked his apartment and stole his life's work ... just like everybody else .. Tesla has never gotten credit for the stuff he patented and invented. Thank god he wrote a lot of books ... otherwise the history in education would of buried him.

[QUOTE=Maksimilian]Heres a youtube documentary on the man

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98QwPO1b5j4[/url][/QUOTE]

I haven't seen that documentary yet, but most of the documentaries on youtube about him are complete lies. It's almost a deliberate distortion of the truth. For example, some of them made him out as superstitious, seeing ghosts and sh*t, but he was very anti-superstition, and they brushed off so many of his philosophies, science, and other experiments it's agonizing to watch. These videos represent less than 5% of what he truly accomplished.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]4. Marconi, the father of radio, actually infringed on Tesla's patent. Tesla was the first to send a letter "s" 2,000 miles through morse code. The courts agreed and Tesla eventually won the suit years after his death.[/QUOTE]
This implies that the invention of radio communication involves a single patent or single inventor or that Tesla ever patented something that was [URL="http://www.freepatentsonline.com/763772.pdf"]like Marconi's 1904 system[/URL]. Radio had a lot of contributors and [URL="http://www.patent-invent.com/radio_patents.html"]a lot of patents[/URL] and Tesla wanted to pursue a system that relied on conduction and not radio waves.

For almost 40 years, Marconi's patent had stood, when it was overturned [URL="http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/320/1/case.html#38"]during WWII, a factor might have been because his company was suing the US Government for patent infringement during WWI.[/URL] The government would not have had to pay if Marconi didn't have the patent. Another thing to remember was this was not Marconi's first patent for a "wireless telegraphy system" which was granted in 1897, it was for his 1904 American patent, which was concerned various improvements to wireless telegraphy.

The court found that Marconi didn't deserve the patent, but it was not simply because of Tesla, it was because his patent was anticipated by Tesla, John Stone Stone and Oliver Lodge, particularly Stone. Stone was important because he developed adjustable tuning. The [URL="http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/320/1/case.html"]majority of the court found[/URL]
[QUOTE]Marconi's patent involved no invention over Lodge, Tesla, and Stone.[/QUOTE]The judges who dissented rejected this as it was clear that Marconi's system performed much better and solved problems that neither, Lodge, Tesla or Stone's could do it. This was recognized by patent courts at the time. The dissenting judges conclude that majority since we know the solution, in hindsight, Maconi didn't make a great leap. This is ahistorical. The truth was this issues were not obvious and Tesla, Lodge and Stone couldn't solve the problem of long distance radio communication like Marconi did.

[QUOTE]Courts closer to it chronologically than we are have characterized it as a "conspicuous advance in wireless telegraphy;" "a real accomplishment," and the ideas involved in the patent were said to "have proven of great value to the world," to have brought about "an entirely new and useful result," "a new and very important industrial result," and "a wonderful conquest." "The Marconi patent stands out as an unassailable monument until new discoveries are made." [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Maksimilian]The thing is, when he was at his peak (prior to World War 1), he was one of the most recognisable faces in New York City and America. Twenty years later, no one knew his name. Its when he started going against JP Morgan and Tomas Edison that his name started going through the mud. [/QUOTE]

He went against JP Morgan and Thomas Edison waaaaaay before WWI. He was a competitor to Edison in 1880's Morgan backed Tesla financially from 1900 to 1901. He stopped because Tesla ran out of money without developing anything useful and because Marconi achieved transatlantic radio broadcast. Morgan realized he had backed the wrong horse and he had lost.

Also if Tesla's peak was before WW1 and 20 years later no one knew his name how do you explain this in 1931?
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Nikola_Tesla_on_Time_Magazine_1931.jpg[/IMG]

Tesla was the man. He discovered the ancient free energy which was used by some advanced civilizations from the past. A tesla generator is basically unlimited energy. Because of the destruction in profit it would cause to the big energy companies they destroyed Tesla's career and the US government destroyed his work after he died.

[QUOTE=fiddy]Theres no such thing as american. Tesla belongs to Eastern Europe.

@OP keep Tesla out of your filthy ignorant trolling mouth[/QUOTE]
tesla chose to leave you shit hole region because he didnt want to be a poor tenant farmer.

[QUOTE=Maksimilian]The thing is, when he was at his peak (prior to World War 1), he was one of the most recognisable faces in New York City and America. Twenty years later, no one knew his name. Its when he started going against JP Morgan and Tomas Edison that his name started going through the mud.

Hes a national hero in Serbia, probly considered the greatest that ever lived. Our International airport in Belgrade is named after him. And religious leaders are attempting to move his remains from his burial museum to the St Sava Temple. They also want to erect a statue of him on the site next to our two greatest historical leaders ; Saint Sava and Karadjordjevic. Its been treated with backlash from alot of people, including his living relatives, who claim he wouldnt have wanted that because he was so modest.

[IMG]http://www.belgradegreeters.rs/contents/bgvodic/svetisava.jpg[/IMG]

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If youre interested in other Serbian scientists you may have heard of Michael Pupin and Mileva Maric.

Pupin was also Serbian-American and instrumental in patenting long-distance phone calls, as well as been a founding member of NACA (Which later became NASA). He had an estranged relationship with Tesla and they went through a period of not talking for 20 years. They made up on Pupins death bed.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihajlo_Pupin[/url]

Mileva Maric was Einsteins first wife and fellow student at Zurich Polytechnic. They had three children together. Some say she was instrumental in helping Einstein during his greatest years, while other claim she didnt do anything. Guess we will never know.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mileva_Mari%C4%87[/url][/QUOTE]
Why is an American scientist a national hero in Serbia?:confusedshrug: