Re: What Jewish People Dont Understand....
[QUOTE=insidehoops]This is the general outline:
Israel in a two-state solution want to keep East Jerusalem, and maybe 5% of the West Bank in an area that's right near Israel, and give control of the rest to Palestinians for a state.
The Palestinian Authority want a Palestinian state that has East Jerusalem, AND they demand that millions of Palestinians have the option to move into Israel, which is basically for the purpose of making Israel another Arab country and erasing it as a Jewish state, which basically erases Israel.
And Hamas primarily just want to blow Israel up, now and forever, no matter how much of an insane losing battle that is, even if just screws everything up for both sides
Side note: In the most recent Palestinian elections, something like 6 years ago or so, Hamas actually got more votes than the Palestinian Authority[/QUOTE]
That's not the deal that is on the table that both sides have showed interest in agreeing to.
The real deal is....
A) East Jerusalem remains in the Palestinian state
B) Israel gets a small potion of the West bank
C) A road connecting Gaza and the West Bank
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The people who criticize Israel for their handling of Gaza are the people who need to come up with a different solution. The rocket attacks on Israel need to stop and the constant threat of terrorism that Gaza poses to Israel needs go away.
What is the solution? The solution can't be "stop the blockade". Been there done that. The blockade was a response to the violence, now the violence has to stop and the blockade will be lifted.
It can't be "stop building settlements in the West Bank" (although they do need to stop), the West Bank has nothing to do with Gaza at this time.
So how do we get Gaza to stop posing such a security threat to Israel? Let's hear it.
Re: What Jewish People Dont Understand....
[QUOTE=LJJ]The people who criticize Israel for their handling of Gaza are the people who need to come up with a different solution. The rocket attacks on Israel need to stop and the constant threat of terrorism that Gaza poses to Israel needs go away.
What is the solution? The solution can't be "stop the blockade". Been there done that. The blockade was a response to the violence, now the violence has to stop and the blockade will be lifted.
It can't be "stop building settlements in the West Bank" (although they do need to stop), the West Bank has nothing to do with Gaza at this time.
So how do we get Gaza to stop posing such a security threat to Israel? Let's hear it.[/QUOTE]
How about they make more of an effort to stop killing civilians? They arent under any serious threat from Hamas and their rockets. Can you tell me how many people the rockets have killed?
They could easily find the terrorists in a way that minimizes the damage to civilians but they dont seem to be interested in that. How the hell do you even get over a 2:1 ratio of civilians/terrorists killed?
EDIT: There were a bunch of kids playing football killed on a beach last week. Were Hamas hiding on a beach too?
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[QUOTE=insidehoops]This is what the official charter of Hamas says:
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it"
Etc.
[url]http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp[/url][/QUOTE]
Jeff,
I would ban all these Hamas sympathizers on this site.
Re: What Jewish People Dont Understand....
Re: What Jewish People Dont Understand....
And now, some stand-up comedy on how Hamas got elected:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIQZlSSqrdg[/url]
I enjoy happiness and laughter for all.