How did Goodell mess this up so badly?

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]This thing has been so unbelievably blown out of proportion, as is every media sensationalized story in this day and age, it is disgusting. I know seeing a video of an act like this can be pretty damning, but what exactly did people think happened?

It was no secret prior to this madness over the video that Ray Rice punched her in the face, committing an act of domestic violence. People saw the video of Rice carrying her around and trying (and failing) to get her to stand up.

[B]What the hell did they think happened? It was never a secret that he punched her in the face. So, why has this video dominated the 24-hour news cycle for the past three days? [/B]

And, I don't think Goddell is lying. I think he has been an awful commissioner and I won't be sorry to see him go, but this holier than thou act that the media pulls off any time the opportunity presents itself has become very transparent to me. Yes, it is completely possible that the video was sent to the NFL offices and it never reached Goddell's office.

But, he has already been essentially tried and found guilty by ESPN, NBC, MSNBC, etc. I'm sick of the news dictating who is a good person and why and who we should all despise.[/QUOTE]
To me the video changed a lot of things.

I always knew rice punched her, but what was maybe even worse is how he acted after punching her.

To me its never ok to punch a woman (unless obviously if she had a knife or something worse and was trying to stab you), but as bad as it is sometimes in the heat of the moment people do things they regret.

Rice after punching her, dragged her and dropped her like a sack of potatoes. He didnt hold her up, He didnt try to revive her, he didnt check if she was ok (she had hit her head pretty hard), etc.

The first person to check on his girl was a total stranger. Rice acted totally calm after KOing his girl. It would have looked a lot better to me if the video had shown him trying to revive her, checking if she was ok, holding her up, carrying her to a hospital, trying to get some medical attention to his girl, etc.

How calm rice acted after KOing his girl, made me wonder how extraordinary of an occurrence that was.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack] I'm sick of the news dictating who is a good person and why and who we should all despise.[/QUOTE]

Well put. This drives me crazy. The media tells us who is good and who is bad, and 95% of us believe it. The other 5% of us are often ostracized for thinking for ourselves or not rushing to judgement like everyone else.

In 2014 it's not pc to be objective.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]This thing has been so unbelievably blown out of proportion, as is every media sensationalized story in this day and age, it is disgusting. I know seeing a video of an act like this can be pretty damning, but what exactly did people think happened?

It was no secret prior to this madness over the video that Ray Rice punched her in the face, committing an act of domestic violence. People saw the video of Rice carrying her around and trying (and failing) to get her to stand up.

What the hell did they think happened? It was never a secret that he punched her in the face. So, why has this video dominated the 24-hour news cycle for the past three days?

And, I don't think Goddell is lying. I think he has been an awful commissioner and I won't be sorry to see him go, but this holier than thou act that the media pulls off any time the opportunity presents itself has become very transparent to me. Yes, it is completely possible that the video was sent to the NFL offices and it never reached Goddell's office.

But, he has already been essentially tried and found guilty by ESPN, NBC, MSNBC, etc. I'm sick of the news dictating who is a good person and why and who we should all despise.[/QUOTE]

Lol that's such a lame hot sports take; do you have a local radio show in Youngstown?

He evidently is lying, just like any sane person would have guessed from the start, but now there appears to be more proof. Given NFL demographics, alienating 30-40% of your viewers is not being sensational. It's a big deal to a lot of fans as it should be. You need to wake up.

How do you know he'd seen the video?

incompetence to the highest order.

Goodell needs to go.

not just because of this, but because of the micro-managing (and frequent bungling) of every scandal.

when you put your finger prints on everything, you then own those actions.

[QUOTE=ace23]How do you know he'd seen the video?[/QUOTE]

Because there's confirmation in a voicemail that someone high up saw it. Even if he claims ignorance it's the same situation that he rocked Peyton with. He claimed Peyton was responsible because he was in charge. It'll be hilarious when the PA flips the script on him and does the same.

[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]Because there's confirmation in a voicemail that someone high up saw it. Even if he claims ignorance it's the same situation that he rocked Peyton with. He claimed Peyton was responsible because he was in charge. It'll be hilarious when the PA flips the script on him and does the same.[/QUOTE]


correct, it doesn't matter if he has seen it, it is organizational incompetence and the CEO pays the price for this kind of **** up.

Goodell should have been gone after the concussion fiasco but he was making his bosses too much money, now, once the sponsors start walking, he is a dead man walking.

Gonna be funny as shit to see all the players wearing pink this October.

[QUOTE=JtotheIzzo]correct, it doesn't matter if he has seen it, it is organizational incompetence and the CEO pays the price for this kind of **** up.

Goodell should have been gone after the concussion fiasco but he was making his bosses too much money, now, once the sponsors start walking, he is a dead man walking.

Gonna be funny as shit to see all the players wearing pink this October.[/QUOTE]

Wait, why is it Goodell and the NFL's job to play ruler of social justice?

What do you do to combat/discourage violence? If the answer is nothing, should you be fired? What if Ray Rice had punched out a man and was a first time offender? Is this as big a deal? We have to give women equal pay and equal say, but then give them special treatment when they want it?



Do you like watching football? If you do, then watch it. If you dont, then take up gardening. Honestly why the fukc do you care if Roger Goodell is the commissioner or not? I would love to hear an answer that doesnt come off as completely hypocritical.

My main problem with Gooddell is not really his fault.. his desire to expand the playoffs/regular season. That is probably coming from the owners more than him personally. But to me that is such a dumb idea. Players are already beaten and bruised by week 17. There are already a lot of injuries. At some point, the quality of the games has to be more important than a boost in revenue.

When sports meets business... just like when art meets business... it is just frustrating to watch.

I've heard and read some stories about fans who are going to boycott the league. People aren't gonna go anywhere. Lets see the ratings after the games this Sunday. There is such an appetite for NFL football, and at the end of the day, people want their product.

Interesting how ESPN is totally going apesh+t on Goodell, the owners, and the league. I know that the NFL screwed up, but they are diverting the attention from Rice and what he did. espn has a tendency to do things like this..they always side with players.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]This thing has been so unbelievably blown out of proportion, as is every media sensationalized story in this day and age, it is disgusting. I know seeing a video of an act like this can be pretty damning, but what exactly did people think happened?

It was no secret prior to this madness over the video that Ray Rice punched her in the face, committing an act of domestic violence. People saw the video of Rice carrying her around and trying (and failing) to get her to stand up.

What the hell did they think happened? It was never a secret that he punched her in the face. So, why has this video dominated the 24-hour news cycle for the past three days?

And, I don't think Goddell is lying. I think he has been an awful commissioner and I won't be sorry to see him go, but this holier than thou act that the media pulls off any time the opportunity presents itself has become very transparent to me. Yes, it is completely possible that the video was sent to the NFL offices and it never reached Goddell's office.

But, he has already been essentially tried and found guilty by ESPN, NBC, MSNBC, etc. I'm sick of the news dictating who is a good person and why and who we should all despise.[/QUOTE]

Well put.

The media and social media is to blame for this holier than thou bullshit. Especially social media where every individual is looking to show superior they are morally than everyone else.

[QUOTE=Akrazotile][B]Wait, why is it Goodell and the NFL's job to play ruler of social justice?[/B]

What do you do to combat/discourage violence? If the answer is nothing, should you be fired? What if Ray Rice had punched out a man and was a first time offender? Is this as big a deal? We have to give women equal pay and equal say, but then give them special treatment when they want it?



Do you like watching football? If you do, then watch it. If you dont, then take up gardening. Honestly why the fukc do you care if Roger Goodell is the commissioner or not? I would love to hear an answer that doesnt come off as completely hypocritical.[/QUOTE]

Goodell has essentially taken on that role from Day 1 with his heavy punishments and explicit desire to clean up player behavior.

Where's the outrage at the law enforcement?

The NFL is a business and should not be in the business of imposing their morals on their customers.

[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]Goodell has essentially taken on that role from Day 1 with his heavy punishments and explicit desire to clean up player behavior.[/QUOTE]


And the same people complaining about inaction now were the ones complaining about his action then.

The public just needs something to whine about to pass the time. God forbid they should go get a life or pick up a hobby.