Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
[QUOTE=KG215]Right, but that is different than saying he has "no" jumper. And his shot selection has gotten better. Point being, he has plenty of games or stretches of games where his jumper is money and he becomes impossible to defend. I do agree, though, that Westbrook's total package and the fact that he plays with Durant means there's no way in hell he'll even sniff a 30 PPG season. A 30 PPG month, sure, but he's not doing it over the course of an entire 82 game season.[/QUOTE]
You're arguing semantics due to sensitivity over your new bandwagon team, post KG, the OKC Thunder.
Westbrook isn't averaging 30 due to KD, yes.
Westbrook isn't averaging 30 w/o KD, either.
More defensive attention, inconsistent jumper, poor shot selection, over emotional player. He's an attacker, but I don't think his offensive game has enough savy to be that type of scorer.
Russell Westbrook quite frankly isn't good enough a scorer to average 30 ppg for an entire reason. That's the point.
[B]A career 20 ppg on 43% player with the main focus of opposing defenses being on his teammate[/B] isn't going out and putting up 30 ppg. **** your stupid sensitivity for Thunder players. It's called reality.
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH][B]You're arguing semantics due to sensitivity over your new bandwagon team, post KG, the OKC Thunder.[/B]
Westbrook isn't averaging 30 due to KD, yes.
Westbrook isn't averaging 30 w/o KD, either.
More defensive attention, inconsistent jumper, poor shot selection, over emotional player. He's an attacker, but I don't think his offensive game has enough savy to be that type of scorer.
Russell Westbrook quite frankly isn't good enough a scorer to average 30 ppg for an entire reason. That's the point.
[B]A career 20 ppg on 43% player with the main focus of opposing defenses being on his teammate[/B] isn't going out and putting up 30 ppg. **** your stupid sensitivity for Thunder players. It's called reality.[/QUOTE]
My new bandwagon team? The f**k are you talking about? I've been a Thunder fan essentially since they moved to OKC and I went to a few games during their second season in OKC. I never had a real favorite team before that. It was essentially just whoever Garnett was playing for. Quit talking out of your ass about things you have no clue about. Even if it was a "bandwagon" thing, I've been posting as an OKC fan pretty much since I joined ISH five years ago. It's not like my OKC affinity just started within the last 2-3 seasons.
And did you just completely skip over the part where I said I agreed with you in that Westbrook wouldn't average 30 PPG? Jesus, sometimes you can be as big of a douche as there is on ISH.
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
That would be some feat especially since he plays alongside one of the greatest scorers in NBA history.
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
with the lack of any help, honestly westbrook needs to play off ball more and get some buckets of his own... I feel like Durant benefits a lot more from westbrook than the other way around when it should be near equal
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
who cares what he averages in the regular season when hes dropping 28/8/7 in the playoffs with clutchness
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
[QUOTE=tpols]who cares what he averages in the regular season when hes dropping 28/8/7 in the playoffs [B]with clutchness[/B][/QUOTE]
Wasn't he like 1-20 in overtimes?
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
[QUOTE=navy]Wasn't he like 1-20 in overtimes?[/QUOTE]
source?
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
[QUOTE=Lord Bean]source?[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=westbru01&match=single&year_id=2014&is_playoffs=Y&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=12&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg"]1-21[/URL]
He shot 34.5% in fourth quarters and overtimes.
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
[QUOTE=navy][URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=westbru01&match=single&year_id=2014&is_playoffs=Y&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=12&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg"]1-21[/URL]
He shot 34.5% in fourth quarters and overtimes.[/QUOTE]
what about this
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=westbru01&match=single&year_id=2014&is_playoffs=Y&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&time_remain_minutes=4&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg[/url]
50% in last 4 min of 4th quarters
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
[QUOTE=Lord Bean]what about this
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=westbru01&match=single&year_id=2014&is_playoffs=Y&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&time_remain_minutes=4&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg[/url]
50% in last 4 min of 4th quarters[/QUOTE]
assisted on 11% of attempts... creates everything for himself, embarrassed CP3 in final minutes and turned the tide of that whole series.. embarrassed tony parker but spurs as a team were too much.. he literally shits on whoever his competition is in the playoffs.
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
[QUOTE=Lord Bean]what about this
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=westbru01&match=single&year_id=2014&is_playoffs=Y&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&time_remain_minutes=4&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg[/url]
50% in last 4 min of 4th quarters[/QUOTE]
Meh. 50% is okay I mean for Westbrook it's great.
1-21 though? Putrid. All time terrible.
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
[QUOTE=navy]Meh. 50% is okay I mean for Westbrook it's great.[/QUOTE]
lebron in same period. 4 minutes to go in 4th quarters
31%
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=jamesle01&match=single&year_id=2014&is_playoffs=Y&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&time_remain_minutes=4&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg[/url]
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
i dont care how much he scores - i just want to see the similar commitment to his all around game that he had in the playoffs.
the defensive intensity he brought in some of the playoff games is nearly impossible to keep up for 82 games, but i dont think a 24/9/7/2.5 season is too much to ask.
that would be an insane, insane statline, of course, but i think this is the year he takes his game to an even greater level.
if he brings the intensity and focus to this season that he brought in the playoffs, he may literally have 8 triple doubles this year. he had 3 in the ****ing playoffs last year.
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
I made this prediction on October 5, 2014.
Before Kevin Durant's injury which happened on October 12.
Before the start of the new regular season.
Re: Russell Westbrook will average 30 ppg this year
[QUOTE=Lord Bean]lebron in same period. 4 minutes to go in 4th quarters
31%
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=jamesle01&match=single&year_id=2014&is_playoffs=Y&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&time_remain_minutes=4&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=&c1comp=ge&c1val=&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg[/url][/QUOTE]
Sounds about right.
Just wait until some LeBron stan comes up in here and adds a bunch of parameters to the criteria and plays with the numbers until they can try to argue that LeBron is clutch.
Actually nevermind, they wouldn't even have to do that because ESPN employs people who already do the same thing... :oldlol:
