Any half decent SG would average 25 ppg if he's allowed to jack up 25 shots a game

[QUOTE=LAZERUSS]How many NBA players in the history of the game have hung 44 points in 31 minutes?

If just anyone could do it, this would be common-place.[/QUOTE]
You just don't understand basketball and I am afraid you never will. All you know is stats and this post shows that again.

Its very rare for a player to not play within the flow of the game and just look for his own point totals. That's what Kobe did when he scored 44 points in 31 minutes. So saying the fact that its not common place is proof that its hard to do makes no sense.

How did Thompson and Gervin do the one game in their careers they went for high point totals and didn't play within the natural flow of the game?

It's sad that this topic is as popular as it is. Curry got 30 points and 15 assists in 30 minutes. That's a lot more newsworthy than Kobe shooting like shit. He's been doing it for years. Curry meanwhile is looking like the best PG in the league and Klay Thompson is ahead of him in the MVP ladder? Haa!

[QUOTE=midatlantic09]False. Most NBA two guards can create their own shot on a consistent basis. That's how virtually all of them got to NBA in the first place.[/QUOTE]

ridiculous. against high school and college scrubs but not no where near the level of competition kobe has had to face since he was around 18 years of age.

there is literally no other sg in the league who, by the time they reach his age, will even be able to get that many shots up, let alone score as much as him too.

[QUOTE=04mzwach]It's sad that this topic is as popular as it is. Curry got 30 points and 15 assists in 30 minutes. That's a lot more newsworthy than Kobe shooting like shit. He's been doing it for years. [B]Curry meanwhile is looking like the best PG in the league and Klay Thompson is ahead of him in the MVP ladder[/B]? Haa![/QUOTE]
Well he's not the best PG in the league and Klay himself has a case for best at his position, so what is your point?

clearly not considering there are plenty of awful teams every year with no one putting up scoring numbers like kobe


why isnt wiggins putting up 25? that team is bad im sure the coach wouldnt mind his 1st overall pick being allowed to develop

no one on philly is scoring 30 a game

jr smith is on a team as bad as the lakers and while i understand he plays with melo the guy still isnt ever scoring 30 like kobe does

denver is 2-7 and i dont see afflalo averaging 25

derozan for years was on an awful raptors team never scored 25

[QUOTE=Human Error]His blind fanboys and the idiotic LA media created this monster that can do no wrong.[/QUOTE]

sounds like James Harden to me.

[QUOTE=avonbarksdale]clearly not considering there are plenty of awful teams every year with no one putting up scoring numbers like kobe


why isnt wiggins putting up 25? that team is bad im sure the coach wouldnt mind his 1st overall pick being allowed to develop

no one on philly is scoring 30 a game

jr smith is on a team as bad as the lakers and while i understand he plays with melo the guy still isnt ever scoring 30 like kobe does

denver is 2-7 and i dont see afflalo averaging 25

derozan for years was on an awful raptors team never scored 25[/QUOTE]

One of the best posters on this site. Very good understanding and logic.

[QUOTE=avonbarksdale]clearly not considering there are plenty of awful teams every year with no one putting up scoring numbers like kobe


why isnt wiggins putting up 25? that team is bad im sure the coach wouldnt mind his 1st overall pick being allowed to develop

no one on philly is scoring 30 a game

jr smith is on a team as bad as the lakers and while i understand he plays with melo the guy still isnt ever scoring 30 like kobe does

denver is 2-7 and i dont see afflalo averaging 25

derozan for years was on an awful raptors team never scored 25[/QUOTE]



Because it's a bullshit argument that's why.


It's not easy to just walk out there in the NBA and drop points. Hell, being able to create space to even get a shot off to average those numbers is hard.


There's a reason why not everyone can make the pros.

[QUOTE=PsychoBe]ridiculous. against high school and college scrubs but not no where near the level of competition kobe has had to face since he was around 18 years of age.

there is literally no other sg in the league who, by the time they reach his age, will even be able to get that many shots up, let alone score as much as him too.[/QUOTE]

The comment I responded to was not age-related. It was simply whether or not most two guards can create their own shot. I stand by my comment when I say that most NBA two guards (of any age) can create their own shot. The main difference is that most NBA two guards 1) don't have the green light, 2) don't get to take 25+ shots per game, and 3) don't play 35-40 minutes per game.

people don't realize how much ability it takes to get up 25 shots per game.

most guys, if you told them to go shoot 25 times, would look COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS...

they would be taking wild shots to get to 25 and it would look farcical and staged.

kobe can get up 25 shots without it looking completely ridiculous... his ability allows him to do that..

[QUOTE=3ball]people don't realize how much ability it takes to get up 25 shots per game.

most guys, if you told them to go shoot 25 times, would look COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS...

they would be taking wild shots to get to 25 and it would look farcical and staged.

kobe can get up 25 shots without it looking completely ridiculous... his ability allows him to do that..[/QUOTE]

This.

If Tyson Chandler, or DeAndre Jordan were asked to take 25 shots per game, their efficiency would nose-dive.

Just watch footage of a prime Kobe. Defenses were stacked to stop him. I recall his '08 series against the Spurs. He just shredded Bruce Bowen, and then he would challenge Duncan at the rim, too.

Ignorant fans honestly believe that the NBA would not adjust for a true scoring threat.

I have said it before, but almost everyone here has played organized ball at at least some level. Now, honestly ask yourself, how many 30-40-50 point games did you have?

i highly doubt Danny Green would average anywhere near 25ppg. probably like 18

[QUOTE=stanlove1111]You just don't understand basketball and I am afraid you never will. All you know is stats and this post shows that again.

Its very rare for a player to not play within the flow of the game and just look for his own point totals. That's what Kobe did when he scored 44 points in 31 minutes. So saying the fact that its not common place is proof that its hard to do makes no sense.

[B]How did Thompson and Gervin do the one game in their careers they went for high point totals and didn't play within the natural flow of the game[/B]?

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First of all, prime Thompson and Gervin were GREAT scorers. But, their highest scoring games came in their last games of the season, and against opponents who had no interest in the game.

BTW, Thompson shot 28-38 from the field, which was probably a career high, and Gervin only shot 23-49.

David Robinson scored 71 points in a game, too...on 26-41 from the floor. Can you name the center who "guarded" him in that game? No, you can't...because they didn't have one.

Same with Shaq's 61 point game. It was a complete joke. He played 45 minutes in a blowout win, against a 12-47 Clippers team that had "the bust" Olawakandi "defend" him for a few minutes, then a group of PF's that I could have scored 20 points on.

The reality was, if these guys were REALLY capable of career high games on a nightly basis, they most certainly would have been doing them.

When they actually faced defenders, and defenses, that were designed to stop them, they did not put up historic games. Robinson struggled in the post-season. Only a prime Shaq, against Mutombo, had a high scoring post-season series against a quality team and defense. He never came close to that against the Robinson-led Spurs from '99 thru '02. And his other high-scoring Finals were against Smits and McCullough...two creampuffs.

[QUOTE=LEFT4DEAD]Kobe is top 5 , on the most overrated players of all time list. Fact![/QUOTE]

You're the undisputed GOAT on the f*ggot list though

People saying that anybody could average 25ppg given enough shots like there aren't bad offensive teams in the league. Most guys who don't shoot a lot aren't doing it because their being nice or unselfish, it's that their coach knows that they aren't capable of being a go-to scorer.

I can't believe this is a real discussion on here.