Deconstructing a myth: Vince Carter having

Glenn Robinson could have been the GOAT if he had MJ's work ethic....

that's the whole point!

so many pro players have all the talent and physical tools....

but what seperates the greats is the love of the game and the insane motivation to become better after they reached the mountain top.

yes MJ had the crazy leaping ability but he kept on working every year to become a better shooter/post player/defender.....he was getting so much better 7 years later! ...

that's what separated him from just becoming Vince Carter...or " air Jordan"...or " Air canada"


If players like MJ or Kobe just relaxed and rested on their physical talent and never got better....then they would have been like Vince or Tmac or countless other players who were spectacular but faded fast.

He didn't. He didn't have Kobe's mentality either but I think he coulda come close to Kobe if he had his drive and had never gotten injured that first time. His injuries are the reason he peaked physically in 2001. He became smarter in NJ but wasn't nearly as fast due to his injury history + the nigguh looked like he was chowin down more cheeseburgers.

[QUOTE=iamgine]If he had the vertical explosiveness, then certainly he had the ground explosiveness. It's just he didn't know how to unlock that ability to the fullest extent.[/QUOTE]

It doesnt work like that. Vince was simply not quick laterally. It hurt his defense.

VC could shoot the 3 better than MJ and jump higher.... that's about it.

I feel like Carters ultimate potential was as a 2 way player. If he had dedicated some time to be a consistent great defender, we would have seen a monster swingman who could score 22-24ppg and stop the other player.

He was stronger than Kobe and other swingmen. He had a longer wingspan than kobe and quicker leap. When he wanted to play defense he actually was fundamental.

There were times he would make crazy blocks or steals and you'd go "MAN he could be a monster"

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNGnVnQPYMA[/url]

Vince's lack of lateral quickness would have curtailed his defensive ability, and he simply didn't focus much effort on that end. MJ and Kobe had the tools as well as the mentality to be lockdown defenders. Tmac was actually capable of great defense, far moreso than Vince, and was a good defensive presence in Toronto before bolting to Orlando and having to completely carry their offense.

[QUOTE=Velocirap31]Vince had the potential to be greater than Kobe and arguably was in his prime, but Kobe had the work ethic and became a better player for much longer.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Velocirap31]Vince had the potential to be greater than Kobe and arguably was in his prime, but Kobe had the work ethic and became a better player for much longer.[/QUOTE]

True.

just another in a long line of players compared to kobe that never lived up

AI, Vince, Tmac, Wade, Harden,

these guys come and gone, kobe stays kobe

Can someone tell me where this 'Kobe wasn't a [U]great [/U]athlete' myth came from? That's what needs to be debunked. I mean seriously:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E__D4QcJC68[/url]

Some of those dunks you had no clue he'd even be able to manufacture into a dunk. His in-air flexibility alone was off the charts. Or are we strictly using vertical leap to determine athleticism?

[QUOTE=Dragonyeuw]Can someone tell me where this 'Kobe wasn't a [U]great [/U]athlete' myth came from? That's what needs to be debunked. I mean seriously:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E__D4QcJC68[/url]

Some of those dunks you had no clue he'd even be able to manufacture into a dunk. His in-air flexibility alone was off the charts. Or are we strictly using vertical leap to determine athleticism?[/QUOTE]

mostly idiotic lebron fans who think one foot leap is the end all be all of athleticism