The most important rule changes in NBA history

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[INDENT]CHICAGO -- Kobe Bryant said it's been hard to watch the Los Angeles Lakers as they've struggled in his absence, but it turns out he doesn't like watching the NBA in general with the way it is currently being played and officiated across the league.

"It's more of a finesse game," Bryant said before the Lakers played the Chicago Bulls on Monday. "It's more small ball, which, personally, I don't really care much for. I like kind of smash-mouth, old-school basketball because that's what I grew up watching. I also think it's much, much less physical. Some of the flagrant fouls that I see called nowadays, it makes me nauseous. You can't touch a guy without it being a flagrant foul."

[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="4"]Bryant said that the hand-check rule that was introduced nearly a decade ago during the 2004-05 season has made it easier for less-talented players to succeed.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B] Bryant said Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni is at least partially responsible for the shift in style of play across the league.


"I like the contact," Bryant said. "As a defensive player, if you enjoy playing defense, that's what you want. You want to be able to put your hands on a guy. You want to be able to hand check a little bit. [B][COLOR="Red"]The truth is, it makes the game [where] players have to be more skillful. Nowadays, literally anybody can get out there and get to the basket and you can't touch anybody. Back then, if guys put their hands on you, you had to have the skill to be able to go both ways, change direction, post up, you had to have a mid-range game because you didn't want to go all the way to the basket because you would get knocked ass over tea kettle. So I think playing the game back then required much more skill."[/COLOR][/B]

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Sorry, but the most important rule change in NBA history, and I don't think it is arguable, was the institution of the 24 second violation in the 54-55 season. Scoring jumped from 79.5 to 93.1. FGAs jumped from 75.4 to 86.4. Field goal percentage rose from 37 to 39% (I'm guessing because teams ran fast breaks, instead of going immediately into a stall).

The amazing thing is that, in the late nineties, the game had slowed down almost to the ridiculously slow pace that prompted the shot clock in the first place. In the 98-99 season, shot attempts were down to 78.2. If there were no shot clock today, there would likely be games with less than 30 points scored.

Also, I notice that I have never seen anyone try to do pace adjusted arguments to elevate the greatness of those players in the early 50s...

Not 1 word itt about defensive 3 seconds, which banned zone inside the paint.. Instead, today's defenders must stay within "[I]armslength[/I]" of an offensive player (about 3 feet) - [B]that's the exact opposite of a zone[/B].. Infact, "[I]armslength[/I]" is the strictest defense possible outside of having defenders stand shoulder-to-shoulder.. Yet this strict policy governs today's defenders in the most important area of the floor: the paint.

Of course, the defensive 3 seconds rule also banned paint-camping... Paint-camping is a superior defensive tactic to today's shading/flooding.. Furthermore, due to defensive 3 seconds, defenders must shade/flood to OUTSIDE the paint, leaving the paint unprotected and allowing quick wings to beat defenders to the open paint (as opposed to defenders already being in the paint waiting on penetrators, like previous eras).

Finally, today's 3-point shooting and the resulting spacing negates the current defensive schemes.. It's all nice and good that defenders are flooding, but the spacing makes them help from further away - spacing makes defenders help from further away - that's the definition of spacing... The further distance of today's help defenders isn't disputable - it's physics... Spacing affords today's players more time and room to operate than ever before.
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[QUOTE=3ball]Not 1 word itt about defensive 3 seconds, which banned zone inside the paint.. Instead, today's defenders must stay within "[I]armslength[/I]" of an offensive player (about 3 feet) - [B]that's the exact opposite of a zone[/B].. Infact, "[I]armslength[/I]" is the strictest defense possible outside of having defenders stand shoulder-to-shoulder.. Yet this strict policy governs today's defenders in the most important area of the floor: the paint.

Of course, the defensive 3 seconds rule also banned paint-camping... Paint-camping is a superior defensive tactic to today's shading/flooding.. Furthermore, due to defensive 3 seconds, defenders must shade/flood to OUTSIDE the paint, leaving the paint unprotected and allowing quick wings to beat defenders to the open paint (as opposed to defenders already being in the paint waiting on penetrators, like previous eras).

Finally, today's 3-point shooting and the resulting spacing negates the current defensive schemes.. It's all nice and good that defenders are flooding, but the spacing makes them help from further away - spacing makes defenders help from further away - that's the definition of spacing... The further distance of today's help defenders isn't disputable - it's physics... [I]Spacing affords today's players more time and room to operate than ever before.[/I][/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=3ball]Not 1 word itt about defensive 3 seconds, which banned zone inside the paint.. Instead, today's defenders must stay within "[I]armslength[/I]" of an offensive player (about 3 feet) - [B]that's the exact opposite of a zone[/B].. Infact, "[I]armslength[/I]" is the strictest defense possible outside of having defenders stand shoulder-to-shoulder.. Yet this strict policy governs today's defenders in the most important area of the floor: the paint.

Of course, the defensive 3 seconds rule also banned paint-camping... Paint-camping is a superior defensive tactic to today's shading/flooding.. Furthermore, due to defensive 3 seconds, defenders must shade/flood to OUTSIDE the paint, leaving the paint unprotected and allowing quick wings to beat defenders to the open paint (as opposed to defenders already being in the paint waiting on penetrators, like previous eras).

Finally, today's 3-point shooting and the resulting spacing negates the current defensive schemes.. The spacing makes defenders help from further away - that's the definition of spacing... The further distance of today's help defenders isn't disputable - it's physics... [I]Spacing affords today's players more time and room to operate than ever before.[/I][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Duffy Pratt]Sorry, but the most important rule change in NBA history, and I don't think it is arguable, was the institution of the 24 second violation in the 54-55 season. Scoring jumped from 79.5 to 93.1. FGAs jumped from 75.4 to 86.4. Field goal percentage rose from 37 to 39% (I'm guessing because teams ran fast breaks, instead of going immediately into a stall).

The amazing thing is that, in the late nineties, the game had slowed down almost to the ridiculously slow pace that prompted the shot clock in the first place. In the 98-99 season, shot attempts were down to 78.2. If there were no shot clock today, there would likely be games with less than 30 points scored.

Also, I notice that I have never seen anyone try to do pace adjusted arguments to elevate the greatness of those players in the early 50s...[/QUOTE]

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the shotclock made basketball watchable in the 50s

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[QUOTE=GIF REACTION]How many times to I have to mention this to your thick skull don? Some of the most RENOWNED and well respected NBA writers today are saying this. They are getting paid the BIG BUCKS to be as accurate as possible. Use your brain a little. There is a big difference.[/QUOTE]

So the zones (with 3 second violations that are played less than 3% of the time) with no hand-checking are more what... 'floody' than real zones with physical defense and no 3-sec clear out the lane rules only because this nerd, a stand up comedian from Portland, Oregon says so?


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Story checks out I guess. Nevermind what the aftual architect of the illegal D rules or an ATG who played under both sets of rules have to say.

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I would love to see you actually tackle what I posted BTW. I know you don't have shit, but take a stab at it.

Henry Abbott is the best in the business. He gets paid the BIG BUCKS to talk and break down the NBA. There's a reason why guys like you, 3ball and bruceblitz occupy the stands.

[QUOTE=GIF REACTION]Henry Abbott is the best in the business. He gets paid the BIG BUCKS to talk and break down the NBA. There's a reason why guys like you, 3ball and bruceblitz occupy the stands.[/QUOTE]

Skip Bayless gets paid BIG BUCKS too. What is that supposed to mean? Are you saying Henry Abbott, a stand up comedian from Portland, Oregon who has probably never picked up a basketball or coached in any capacity is more knowledgeable about the game and nuances of the rule changes than a championship winning coach who created the rules and an ATG with 5 rings who played in both eras?

Like... Really, son? :wtf:

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Thats not handchecking, thats fouling & getting away with it due to all-star/harlem globetrotter/exhibition game level reffing standards.

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[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Skip Bayless gets paid BIG BUCKS too. What is that supposed to mean? Are you saying Henry Abbott, a stand up comedian from Portland, Oregon who has probably never picked up a basketball or coached in any capacity is more knowledgeable about the game and nuances of the rule changes than a championship winning coach who created the rules and an ATG with 5 rings who played in both eras?

Like... Really, son? :wtf:[/QUOTE]
Delusional.

Zach Lowe and Henry Abbott and David Thorpe > You bruce blitz and 2ball

[QUOTE=pauk]Thats not handchecking, thats fouling & getting away with it due to all-star/harlem globetrotter/exhibition game level reffing standards.

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That's some old lion shit. Old school players were great at doing little things the refs couldn't see. I'm sure Jelly Bean and Chubby Cox taught him that move. Players in the handchecking era saw much worse than that on a nightly basis. But even if you think that was a foul, look at the full court pressure. Look at how clumsy and pedestrian the ghost of Bean made a prime Bron look by just placing a forearm on his hip.

Like Beans pointed out, a guy like LeBron is lucky he gets to play in an era where he can hide his lack of skill. If hand-checking were still allowed, his poor ball handling would not fly. He'd be forced to play more off-ball and let a real PG handle the ball. LeBron having no off-ball skills to speak of. :(

[QUOTE=GIF REACTION]Delusional.

Zach Lowe and Henry Abbott and David Thorpe > You bruce blitz and 2ball[/QUOTE]

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You still never tackled my points from earlier.

If the point of the illegal D rules, the most important rule change in NBA History (:lol) was to increase scoring, then why did PPG go from 109 to as low as 91 PPG during its tenure? If the point was to curb zone... then why was the NBA trying to stop 'out right zones' for the 'umpteenth time' in 1989?

If the rules were so impactful and important, why did the architect of the rules deem them ineffective and the NBA abolish them eventually?

Why did scoring, pace, and shooting percentages INCREASE for the first time ever post merger only after the rule changes of the 00s?

Any time you're ready.

[QUOTE=DonDadda59][B]That's some old lion shit.[/B] Old school players were great at doing little things the refs couldn't see. I'm sure Jelly Bean and Chubby Cox taught him that move. Players in the handchecking era saw much worse than that on a nightly basis. But even if you think that was a foul, look at the full court pressure. Look at how clumsy and pedestrian the ghost of Bean made a prime Bron look by just placing a forearm on his hip.

Like Beans pointed out, a guy like LeBron is lucky he gets to play in an era where he can hide his lack of skill. If hand-checking were still allowed, his poor ball handling would not fly. He'd be forced to play more off-ball and let a real PG handle the ball. LeBron having no off-ball skills to speak of. :([/QUOTE]

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A double entendre in its purest form

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A double entendre in its purest form[/QUOTE]

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